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Why Peter Ladner will likely never become mayor of Vancouver
If I'm wrong, I might have to eat these words on the steps of Vancouver City Hall this November.
But the way I see it, Peter Ladner -- perhaps the business commmunity's perfect candidate had he put his name forward 20 years ago -- has very little chance of becoming the next mayor of Vancouver in 2008, even if he wins the NPA nomination.
Here's why. Vancouver has experienced monumental demographic changes since the city hosted the World's Fair in 1986.
COPE was slow to adapt to those changes, and did a poor job of recruiting candidates from the growing communities of Chinese, Filipino, South Asian, and Latin American immigrants.
Jenny Kwan won one term for COPE on council and then graduated to provincial politics in 1996 by becoming MLA for Vancouver-Mount Pleasant.
The NPA fared much better in this regard. Even though many of those candidates weren't elected--and particulary those of South Asian descent--the NPA paid more attention to multicultural communities in the 1990s.
Long-time NPA park commissioner Allan De Genova planted deep roots with the Chinese Canadian merchants in Chinatown, and he was a favourite of the Italian community in East Vancouver.
NPA school trustee Don Lee has worked exceptionally hard on behalf of Chinese-speaking residents across the city, both as a city councillor and as a trustee.
And Mayor Sam Sullivan learned to speak Cantonese and Punjabi, and now he's picking up Tagalog, which is the language of most Filipinos.
One of the greatest forms of respect a Canadian-born politician can pay immigrants is to speak to them well in their native language.
So what about Ladner? He would attend the dinners like all the other politicians, but he hasn't cultivated nearly as close ties with first-generation immigrants. His newspaper, Business in Vancouver, was not exactly a beacon of multiculturalism in the time when he was the publisher.
He will promote issues of importance to small businesspeople, many of whom are first-generation immigrants, but he hasn't connected with them on an emotional level in the manner of Sullivan or De Genova.
And Ladner is still not speaking any Cantonese from the podium, even though it's not that difficult to learn a few phrases.
Ladner is also handicapped by the perception, often reinforced by Courier columnist Allen Garr, that he is a member of the city's blueblood establishment, unlike Sullivan, who grew up on the city's East Side. Sullivan has a far better chance than Ladner of winning East Side votes for the NPA.
Ladner might win the NPA nomination this spring, but that likely won't stop Sullivan from running as an independent. Sullivan is a very adept political fundraiser.
Keep in mind that Ladner might also do exceptionally well in the gay community, which could help him win the NPA nomination. Ladner has already been endorsed by gay community hero and Little Sister's bookstore coowner Jim Deva.
Ladner's entry into municipal politics in 2002 was promoted by former NPA councillor Gordon Price, who is also gay.
Another gay former NPA councillor, Alan Herbert, has often criticized Sullivan for promoting the 2005 candidacy of Ronald Leung. Leung opposed equal marriage rights for gays and lesbians. This is another reason why the gay and lesbian community might unite around Ladner.
However, any NPA candidate probably has to win a huge share of the first-generation Chinese Canadian vote in order to become mayor.
For the NPA in 2005, the first-generation Chinese vote was like political oxygen, and was very likely responsible for the NPA narrowly capturing control of Vancouver city council.
It would also help the NPA to take a majority of votes within the first-generation Filipino and first-generation South Asian communities, too.
That's because many second-, third-, and fourth-generation Vancouverites are much more progressive about drug addiction. Sullivan has some appeal to these voters with his libertarian views.
These voters often go NDP provincially. They might be quite comfortable with a centrist party like Vision Vancouver.
But it's going to be very difficult for Ladner to capture first-generation immigrants' votes if Sullivan, who has high name recognition, is on the ballot as an independent.
And Ladner will have even more trouble winning first-generation immigrants' votes if Vision Vancouver nominates De Genova, Gregor Robertson, or Raymond Louie as its mayoral candidate.
Sullivan has already tied up the support of political heavyweights in the Chinese Canadian community, including former councillor Maggie Ip.
It's hard to conceive that other influential Chinese Canadian community and business leaders, such as SUCCESS CEO Tung Chan and Concord Pacific's Terry Hui, won't also be backing Sullivan even if he runs as an independent.
Chinese Canadian community leaders might also be just as apt to support De Genova or Robertson or Louie over Ladner should Sullivan withdraw from the race.
As an MLA, Robertson has distinguished himself as a strong advocate for first-generation Chinese immigrants who've been shafted by the British Columbia student-loan system. That earned him lots of coverage in the Chinese-language media.
Robertson also fought to retain Mount Saint Joseph Hospital--which is cherished by many Vancouverites of Chinese descent.
Robertson and other NDP MLAs mounted an effective campaign to counter and delay the B.C. Liberal government's public-private partnership brigade and Providence Health Care from consolidating St. Paul's Hospital and Mount Saint Joseph Hospital in a new facility on the Downtown Eastside.
Meanwhile, Vision Vancouver Coun. Raymond Louie's ethnic heritage and trips to China would serve him well with Chinese Canadian voters, who might take pride in electing the city's first mayor of Chinese descent.
Louie has also been an extremely pro-development councillor, once voting in favour of taking the next step to allow residential development at the Plaza of Nations. This would have pleased executives at Concord Pacific, which owned a whack of developable land nearby that was slated to include less lucrative commercial development.
So no matter who gets the Vision Vancouver mayoral nod, the party is more likely to improve its standing with first-generation Chinese Canadian voters. Coun. George Chow's presence on council also helps the party in this area.
So if Ladner wins the NPA mayoral nomination, he risks fracturing the NPA coalition that has delivered city hall to the party in all but one election since Expo 86. He'll retain a significant slice of the gay vote, but that could be more than offset by the NPA's loss of first-generation immigrants' votes.
Sullivan, who relishes a political fight, will probably not step aside should Ladner become his party's nominee for mayor--increasing the likelihood that the NPA's traditional coalition will fracture into different camps.
Even if Sullivan didn't run, De Genova, Robertson, or Louie could make serious inroads into the NPA's traditional dominance with first-generation immigrant voters.
Toss in an environmentally minded mayoral candidate for COPE -- such as Fred Bass or David Cadman -- and Ladner would lose support among West Side Greens, whom he'll also need to become mayor.
And that could spell very bad news for NPA candidates for park board, school board, and city council in the 2008 Vancouver election.


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Personally, I feel a lot of Chinese speaking folks will support Peter Ladner.
As a person who had earlier supported Sam, I saw the last campaign where a large percentage of the City's newer Chinese Canadian residents supporting Sam only because he was the only choice under the NPA banner… and at the time, our City was reacting to the binary civic party choices, and the so-called opposition at that time, was in tatters.
Sam barely squeaked through.
Currently, the pulse in the community is one of non-support for Sam.
The developer crowd as usual, had been stroking the City's sitting Mayor... but probably didn't count on him being challenged from within.
And given a choice between Sam Sullivan or Peter Ladner. My noisy breakfast and Chinese New Year gossip polls in the various CC community gatherings over the past few weeks has been approx 75% for Peter Ladner, 20% for Raymond Louie, 5% for Al DeGenova and a whopping 0% for Sam Sullivan.
That's zero for Sam.
And what was even more interesting was that not everyone who participated in this unscientific poll were left of center.
I’ll be at some more family and clan association events this upcoming week… and will be poking my ugly face about - now that Ladner has officially announced his intentions.
Get ready for some Soy sauce on your words ;)
I wonder if your poll involved many first-generation Chinese Canadians -- the ones who watch Guo Ding and Tung Chan on Channel M. I have no doubt that many second-, third-, and fourth-generation Chinese Canadians would prefer Ladner over Sullivan. The issue is whether or not Ladner can hold together the NPA coalition that has kept the city in the NPA's hands for all but three of the past 22 years.
I have a strong hunch that many first-generation Chinese Canadians--particularly those who moved to Vancouver after Expo 86 and who watch Fairchild and read Sing Tao--are likely to stay with Sam Sullivan even if he isn't the NPA nominee.
They see Sullivan speaking Cantonese on TV and they like him. He's an underdog, like they are. They might not be very political at all. They see a white guy speaking their language, and it makes them feel good.
Did you notice Sullivan at the multicultural health fair yesterday trolling for votes? He's not stupid.
I included the caveat at the front of the column. I hedged my bets and acknowledged that I could be wrong.
(I also think that Hillary Clinton still has a decent shot of becoming president too, so I could very easily be wrong on both counts.)
But the real danger for the NPA is if Sullivan runs as an independent, and the old NPA coalition shatters.
This is the coalition that Gordon Campbell created in the late 1980s that included first-generation Chinese immigrants (he recruited Sandra Wilking as Vancouver's first Chinese Canadian councillor), gays (Campbell recruited Gordon Price), and people worried about property taxes (which is where George Puil came in).
Campbell also demonstrated a progressive side on drug issues. He oversaw the introduction of the needle exchange, for example, which was one of the first drug-addiction harm-reduction measures ever adopted in Canada.
Campbell also launched the Clouds of Change initiative to appeal to environmentalists with concerns about global warming. Fred Bass was on the committee.
Where do these constituencies of voters go in 2008?
Residential property taxpayers might have serious concerns about Ladner's desire to shift the burden onto them.
Many of them might prefer Sullivan or Vision Vancouver, particularly if Raymond Louie hammers this home in a civic campaign.
First-generation immigrants are more likely to stick with Sullivan or go over to Vision Vancouver, in my humble opinion.
Many gays and lesbians will likely prefer Ladner over Sullivan. Keep in mind, however, that the turnout in the West End (which is losing some of its single, young gay population as housing prices increase) has never been that impressive in municipal elections.
Environmentally minded voters might find Ladner more appealing, but he blew it by flip-flopping on the Burrard Street Bridge cycling trial. Ladner alienated both sides, and that will be thrown in his face in the 2008 civic election.
People who are progressive on drug issues (hey, I recommend Gabor Mate's new book on the topic) will prefer Sullivan over Ladner, who sometimes sounds like Mr. Law and Order.
Ladner didn't behave like this when he was the progressive editor of Monday magazine in Victoria back in the 1980s.
I think Ladner might be the odds-on favourite to win the NPA nomination thanks to his law-and-order soundbites.
But I still think he would lose the general election because Sullivan would siphon off part of the NPA's base.
Keep in mind how the NDP won the provincial election three times in the past 26 years.
Each time -- 1972, 1991, and 1996 -- it occurred when the right-of-centre forces were divided. The civic right-of-centre forces are divided now.
This is why Vision Vancouver or a COPE-Vision alliance could take the mayor's chair with either De Genova, Robertson, or Louie as the candidate.
COPE members would probably never accept De Genova, however, even though he has done some good things for the city.
I think Robertson is probably the best bet because he's the least divisive right now.
He also appeals to small businesspeople and environmentally minded voters -- the same constituencies that Ladner is trying to reach.
Louie probably needs another three years in the council penalty box for voting for the Canada Line and slot machines in Hastings Park during his first term--and for generally going along with Larry Campbell's more harebrained schemes.
Louie should consider going public and criticize Senator Campbell for launching a federal Liberal takeover of Vision Vancouver.
The federal Liberals already have a civic party in Vancouver. It's called the NPA.
Campbell has really stuck it to Louie -- his most loyal supporter on council and who sometimes almost seemed like a son to him -- by supporting De Genova for the Vision mayoral nomination.
Let's hope there isn't some secret plan afoot to run Louie for parliament as a Liberal candidate -- and this is why Senator Campbell is promoting De Genova as the next mayor.
(Louie doesn't have a chance against Libby Davies in Vancouver East, and the other federal Liberal ridings in Vancouver all have nominees.)
If Louie admits that he made a mistake by placing so much faith in Senator Blowhard, er Campbell when he was mayor, perhaps the public (i.e. Georgia Straight readers) would take a shine to Louie.
Louie's allies in the labour movement such as Geoff Meggs and Bill Saunders could also speak publicly about their concerns.
Hell, they can call our reporter Carlito Pablo and unburden themselves about how awful it was dealing with Senator Blowhard when he was mayor.
Is it true, as Frances Bula has alleged, that Campbell didn't read staff reports before voting on issues? Campbell has denied this.
It would be very revealing if Louie and Meggs spoke frankly about this with Pablo.
That could catapult Vision Vancouver to control city hall because it would send a message to the left in this city that Vision isn't a party of divisive opportunists and federal Liberals.
Voters would see some humility there -- and this is advice that Louie will never get from one of his favourite spin doctors, Bill Tieleman, who always seems to believe that the best defence is a good offence.
And unlike Tieleman, I provide this advice for free:)
As always, you humble me with your analyzes... and you're right on the point that Sam avails himself on many of the ethnic flavoured events and media spots.
And that as we all know, is the secret to our Canadian election success. To work on the apathy of the electorates ...as most of them are too lazy and thus make their selections on what their friends tell them, or who they saw/ read in the News.
Indeed it will be an interesting contest to see which Vancouver boy (no girl in the contest ring yet) will be sitting in time for that 2010 thing.
With your blessings, I'd like to copy and paste your above comments onto my content challenged blog.
Thanks.
Nice glasses! Sorry to be pedantic TUCC, but there is a girl in the very-crowded mayoral ring, a great-grandmother closing in on 80 by the name of Betty Krawczyk, who is running for the Work Less Party on an anti-corporate, anti-2010, anti-Gateway, anti-Gordo, anti-environmental destruction platform. Her office is nextdoor to the CCEC Credit Union I am part of on Commercial Drive. I have spotted Betty there once so far...
You are bound to hear about it from her eventually if you keep saying it is all guys in the ring.
Oh, and this guy we call Senator Blowhard turns 60 this week...he is the same age as Gordo, give or take a few weeks...
Cheers.
We're halfway there ;-)