What's more important: Gordon Campbell's HST or cuts to health care?

Judging from comments on this site, the public is in an uproar over Premier Gordon Campbell's decision to sucker-punch consumers and the restaurant industry by announcing a harmonized sales tax just 10 weeks after the election.

The B.C. Liberals told a national restaurant association before  voting day  that the HST was not in the party platform.

But perhaps  just as  troubling is what's happening on the health-care front. During the campaign, the premier repeatedly said he would protect this area.

Five days before the election, the Georgia Straight published an article in which NDP health critic Adrian Dix claimed the B.C. Liberals had a secret agenda to cut health care after the election.

“We have serious concerns about cuts that are coming,” Dix said at the time. “There will be serious cuts to the provincial health care in the next few months if the Liberals are reelected. They’re hoping to sneak their way through this election, but that’s what’s in the future."

Then-B.C. Liberal health minister George Abbott rejected that assertion. “There’s certainly not going to be any reduction in dollars,” he said.

At the time, Abbott added that 90 percent of all budgeted new spending during the next three years would be allocated to health care, bringing annual spending on health to $17.5 billion by 2011–12.

He has since been replaced by Kevin Falcon. He informed health authorities last month that they would have to find $360 million in savings because he wasn't going to increase the $8.9-billion allocation in this year's budget.  

Yesterday, the Fraser Health Authority's board of directora approved cutting elective surgeries by 10 to 15 percent to cope with "projected budget pressure $130 to $160 million".

The Mission Memorial Hospital emergency room will remain open, according to a Fraser Health Authority news release, thanks in part to pressure from the NDP Oppostion, including Leader Carole James.

Meanwhile, according to an NDP news release, the authority has informed the municipal governments in Burnaby, New Westminster, the Tri-Cities, Maple Ridge, and Abbotsford that there will be cuts to addiction counselling and to support services related to sexual abuse and family violence.

The HST will cost people's jobs in the restaurant industry and probably leave less money in the pockets of consumers.

Cuts to provincial health care could cost people's lives.

Which is the most egregious broken promise? Or do you even think these  constitute broken promises by the premier and the B.C. Liberals, considering that the budget has remained intact? Feel free to offer your comments below.

Comments

Van Resident
If the 1.6 billion from the feds for introducing the HST goes to pay for health costs this year, how will Gordo pay for next year?

Lets just hope he's not around long enough.
 
Cris
If Mr. Campbell needs this tax, ( that he promised not to levy on taxpayers ) let him levy the tax on the loyal liberal followers and let the rest of us opt out! I'm pretty sure this tax is needed for another 29% raise for Mr. Campbell and his pals, for they will never work again after this fiasco!!!
 
BlakeBlake
What we need is a new form of government, one that does not promote public manipulation, one that holds the government accountable for their decisions and one that punishes a government that bribes voters and breaks promises once they've secured power.
 
visigoth
Seems like we are no the only province to adopt it. I am keeping track of the money our family gets from the province in with the gst rebates and I am still ahead on that front.
 
VRN
Apparently the feds pay all the costs of administering the tax so really the provincial government can afford to cut their portion of the tax. A total HST of 10% would be reasonable. For health care it would make more sense for there to be more direct taxation like premiums could be raised and they should get all the taxes from alcohol and tobacco.
 
bobby
these people are lying creeps ,their days are numbered one way or the other ,they are the most corrupt ,dispicable frauds this province has had to deal with in its history ,we're screwed for decades now,they've sold off all our resources andmisappropriatedour tax dollarsto pay for this rich pig party five ring circus the owelympigs,these people are themost vile deceitful low lifes on earth and they certainly do not have a mandate to do what they've done or are doing,theywon the election fraudulently and they will find out how most people feel rightbefore the games via ageneral strike and mass civil disobedience ,even the salmon are gone for christs sake ,these morons are crazy and campbell will findouthe is the most hated idiot in this province ...he best find another place to live
 
Clive
All the salmon must have gone to Alberta; at least they don't have the HST there or even PST for that matter. I imagine a lot of people will be shopping and dining out over the border once this tax we can't afford comes into effect. Yes Gordon Campbell has got to be the most hated individual in B.C. history. How would you like to live with that moniker? He is a heartless uncaring monster and you can't believe a word that spews out of that vessel he calls a mouth. Notice how you saw his puss on the news constantly during the election campaign and now the heat is on he is never available for comment.
 
I'm sorry...
...but how does not running a deficit equate to health care cuts? I know the NDP and its supporters have a hard time with the concept of a 'budget', but this is one of the consequences of a public health care system. You make projections about how much it's going to cost for the year, and if it's too low you have to either spend more (run a deficit) or reduce the amount of service delivered. $17.5 billion is almost $3900 per year for every single person in the province! Service reductions are no fun, but there has to be a limit somewhere.

Nothing's free, money doesn't grow on trees (except the little smelly trees in Surrey basements), etc, etc. As much as it sucks to pay a new tax, it sucks even more when your tax money just goes to service interest on debt that you racked up 10 years before, because you weren't willing to pay all your bills back then.
 
John H
Eureka!....just figured out why Gordo made such an unpopular promise breaking move. It completely took attention away from his even bigger BC Rail, email computer storage fraud!
 
d
everyone is being ridiculous....we need tax to pay for health care, roads schools, etc...... everyone LOVES to complain...its getting tired...do you think they raise taxes and keep all the money themselves? its tough out there for everyone including governments and they need to keep the 'lights on'...if you dont approve of our unbelievably HIGH standard of living go move somewhere with lower taxes and see what you end up with..... sheez. trust me I am unemployed , looking for work and yet enjoy everything that I am lucky to have here in BC. I am thinkful.
 
nancy in langley
I'm sorry says: "Nothing's free, money doesn't grow on trees". Hmm ... someone should have told that to Gordon Campbell before he increased salaries by up to 43% for himself and his cronies. At the same time, he hasn't increased the minimum wage for what, about 10 years now, or the disability allowance for the poorest of the poor. Shame on Gordon Campbell!!!
 
Annonymous
If they do go ahead with the HST, then maybe they could use this money to fund the waning health care system, instead of putting it into the pockets of big corporations! Just a thought!

Please if you haven't already though join the "NO BC HST" group on facebook, it is closing in on 90,000 members the more people we have the better our chances of stopping the HST!
 
nancy in langley
Campbell should have been saving $ during the good times which he was so fond of reminding us we were in (that is the previous 7 or 8 years). Had he done so, he'd now have money to continue health care services. Instead he was busily handing out pay increases to friends and hiring others for fat paycheques. Seems to me there should be repercussions for gov't. officials who lie to us and mis-handle public funds, apart from the election process that is.

Campbell must go, that's the bottom line!
 
Anonanimal
I still cant believe people voted for him AGAIN... the HST money is probably a way to pay off Olympic debt, same with healthcare cuts-- to pay off more olympic debt

Obviously they don't care about us-- their own paychecks are fat so they can afford private treatment --we're the ones who suffer with 8 month waiting list
 
Wildnis
Save money by deleting all unnecessary bureaucracy, then we don't need a high tax OR cut health care. As simple as that!

What is the fine for false advertisement? Wrong statements in pre-election time??

Every manager would loose its job immediately if the budgets are incorrect (i.e. Olympics, Health and, and , and, and).
Unfortunately our politicians only get more money for themselves as a "reward" for ruining our lives.

It is time to hold them accountable for what they are doing. My opinion is that they get fired, make room for people which want to work for people - which is us.
 
Donna
doesn't matter who would have been elected, there would have been budget cuts regardless. both parties lied to the public during the election, both parties disrespected the intelligence level of the voting public through their distasteful manipulation of facts, trash talk and treating us voters like 3rd olds who can't think for our selves. I'm more afraid of James than I am of Campbell.
 
montyvan
If BC would legalize and tax its largest industry -- cannabis -- all these problems could be easily solved. Instead, we waste hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars trying to stop something that is unstoppable.
 
val
Campbell and his ilk were elected by those who don't vote - maybe those non voters will learn a lesson and vote in the next election. We should rename Campbell Pinnochio
 
p lg
I would hope the question would not require an either or answer. Perhaps both issues could be dealt with in the same light.

I always thought our Health Authorities were always poor, but the Fraser Health Authority was able to invest some $17 million in asset backed commercial papers (sub prime mortgages) while its hospital auxillaries and foundations were selling baked goods and sock puppets to pay for basic diagnostic instruments and equipment. With no guarantees that Fraser Health will see any of this money in the next 9 years, it cancels surgeries and upgrades to its emergency rooms bulging from the seams.
 
Stephan
I own a travel company and we are bringing tourists from Western Europe to Canada. Since Ontario and British Columbia are the most frequented provinces by our clients we are extremely concerned about the impact the new HST will have on travel. Just returning from a sales trip to Europe all our clients tell me they will reduce exposure of Canada product next year in their brochures over rate increase concerns. I think Mr. Campbell does not yet undertstand what impact this decision will have on the economy for BC. Meals and all transportation which were previously not subject to the PST but GST only have overnight become 7% more expensive. In the current environment that is a recipe for disaster. Tourists will flock to alternate destinations and stay away from Canada for a while.
 
Chantal
Just think how much hospitals, geriatric homes, and many more establishments. There is no way those institutions can keep their heads above water now. I am sure Campbell did this so he can privatize a lot of institutions,. He will say, these organizations are not sustainable. There will be more to come, bad things. However Campbell gave himself an outrageous raise in pay, as well to his cabinet. So he won't be on the street with wife and family.
 
cinderella
Our Prime Minister Harper, approves of Campbell's lying deceit to be re-elected. Campbell is laying out the guide lines for the rest of the country to follow. Harper will have a lot of that lovely money for his coffers. Why would a Prime Minister not be angry, to see one of his provinces sold out? Corruption pays very well in this country so, don't be surprised if Campbell's HST goes through, do not be surprised if BC residents are hit with another tax to pay for the mess Campbell made of the Olympics. He may resign after the Olympics. However a new Premier will say, Harper left this province in dire straits, so new taxes will probably burden our people even more. Have a look at the Western Block Party, this could save the western provinces. I like their new ideas. Tax dollars in the west can stay in the west. Never again would the west be obligated to have the likes of Campbell, in the western provinces, we could fire them. We could plan our own destiny, rather than having the east dictate to the west. The eastern provinces, as far back than I can remember, have always been their own country. The west only gets crumbs, compared to the eastern provinces. Our own Premier, will not only sell out BC, he is selling us out to the east. The east, reminds me of Nazi Germany, and I am old enough to remember. Canada is becoming a dictatorship.
 
 
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