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D.O.A.'s Joe Keithley confirms Chuck Biscuits' "death" a hoax

Rumours of the demise of Chuck Biscuits have evidently been greatly exaggerated. Earlier today, everyone from AbsolutePunk.net to Entertainment Weekly reported that the former D.O.A. drummer—who left the music business in 1999—had died of throat cancer on October 24 after a long illness.

The “death” was reported by blogger James Greene Jr., who wrote that he had spent the past six months corresponding via e-mail with Biscuits and his wife. In the hours after the story went viral, Greene’s website, www.jgtwo.wordpress.com was bombarded with posts demanding proof of the death.

The Straight contacted Biscuit’s former bandmate Joey Keithley, singer-guitarist of D.O.A.. He confirmed that Biscuits is very much alive.

"It was a cruel Internet hoax—it was ridiculous," Keithley said. "His brother did talk to him yesterday afternoon."

In the meantime, Greene has evidently accepted that he was the victim of an elaborate prank. On his Web site, he wrote the following after being bashed repeatedly for posting the death notice despite having nothing to go on except for emails from people purporting to be Biscuits and his wife.

Greene wrote: How do you “check hard facts” or “verify” anything about a guy who went off grid ten years ago and the people who allegedly knew him best won’t return your e-mails? I tried, you guys, I really fuckin’ tried. I spent a good chunk of ‘08 searching for Chuck and info on Chuck. All I got was Bill Goddamn Stevenson. No one was talking.

”I wrote a thing about Biscuits anyway and then, out the blue, some fucker calling himself by that name who looks like the guy on the record sleeves starts corresponding with me. What the fuck am I supposed to do? Call shenanigans? Whatever happened to trust? Who would lie about being Chuck Biscuits? Especially to a piece of “vermin” like me on the lowest rung of the totem pole?

”Has anyone ever lied to you for six months about being a terminally ill hero of your musical youth? It’s fucking weird. You think I wasn’t devastated when I read the e-mail the other day that announced his “death?” That’s why I wrote this blog in the first place. I wanted to give CB the obit I knew he deserved. I knew there’d be source questions, but what was I supposed to do, e-mail his “wife” back and be like, “Hey, can you send me pics of the body?” I had no suspicions. I thought I had this shit on lock down. Who would lie to a NOBODY blogger about this kind of thing for so long?

”It’s easy to attack me in hindsight, but again – this had been going on since May. Who the fuck lies about being a dying Chuck Biscuits for half a year? Are my friends/enemies smart enough to hack enough related e-mail accounts to perpetrate something like this? I just want to know how it happened.

”I’d also like some more conclusive proof that Chuck isn’t dead aside from e-mails from people whose existence I can’t further verify.

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Jennifer Moreau
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Yikes. If you are going to disseminate information as a blogger or "citizen journalist" you have a responsibility to ensure it's accurate. Otherwise, don't bother. You're just creating more noise in a senseless universe. This could have been easily avoided by checking with a second source.
 
kyle
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how can say any one is dead if u don't know that is very shity and fucked up thing to do
 
Matt Chittum
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I have a built in bias here. I work for a mainstream newspaper. But this is exactly the problem with bloggers as news sources. Too frequently they don't the resources and skills to get things confirmed -- even in they have the good sense to. On top of that, they're often solo operations with no editorial checks and balances built into the process. So, no surprise when you come out with this kind of "ready, fire, aim" kind of publishing.
 
Chuck Biscuits
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Jennifer,

Cut the guy some slack...he's a goddamn blogger for christ's sake, not f'ing Ted Koppel. He got duped. You don't think he feels bad enough for disseminating purportedly false info?

You don't think you ragging on him online like a goddamn cunt is just adding to the creation of "more noise in a senseless universe"?

And just how do you "check with a second source" when no one who knew the guy will say anything about him, his whereabouts or state of being?

He's apologized and ,short of posting every e-mail in the exchange between himself and the accused impersonators (which might be considered a breach of trust), that's about all you can really expect from the guy.

Lighten up. Get off your high horse and get over yourself.

 
Daveb
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I exchanged emails with chuck after very little "digging" and am fully aware of his current location.... for a guy to say he spent the greater part of 08' searching for him and finding nothing, I find ridiculous. The worst part about this whole this is the mainstream press jumping the gun and using this guys blog as a source.
 
Shane
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Jennifer, he had a "second source" in Chuck's wife. Of course, in hindsight, that person (if it was even a second person) was full of shit, too, but at the time, why would you question that? Especially given someone of Chuck's level of popularity - well known amongst a small group of people, but not big enough that this would cause a gigantic national stink.

James was duped, straight up. And in the process, so were a lot of other people. Should James have tried harder to check more sources? Maybe. But when you've got Chuck's "wife" emailing and saying that he passed, it's kinda hard to doubt the legitimacy of that. Should the larger news outlets that picked up on James' blog double checked on it before running with a story that only appeared on one blog? Absolutely. It's painfully evident now that anyone could write a blog post about someone dying, whether it be a con of their own, or something they were tricked into, and these larger news outlets will take it and run with it, as though it were a hard fact.

I can't find a reason to fault James here, instead I point the finger more at the larger news outlets that reported on this. Obviously, nobody is quite as deserving of the blame and scorn as the person who perpetrated this whole mess.
 
Lori B.
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why the fuck would his wife start some serious rumour? Where is chuck in all this???
 
johnyg
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im just happy one of punks greater drummers is getting a little long overdue time in the spotlight regardless of the circumstances... cheers chuck
 
Crescent Heights Guy
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Can real punks get their nom de punk from a Tod Rundgren song? (Piss Aaron)
 
John Armstrong
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Hey Matt - your colleagues at CBC, EW et al couldn't be arsed to check the fact either before jumping on the story so spare me any crap about the legitimacy of mainstream press.
I spent 15 years at the Sun.
 
cradle of filth rule my world
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chuck biscuits is a dumb name anyway and danzig are crap.
 
Ed Banger
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I saw Social Distortion this summer and they weren't even the third best band that Chuck Biscuits had been in. His '65 birthdate seems a bit out - more like '63. Him and brother Dimwit amazing talents. Hope you come back and make a fortune Chuck. Time for you to make a comeback too Beef Richards.
 
Terry J
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Chuck -you ragging on people online like a goddamn dink is just adding to the creation of "more noise in a senseless universe"?
 
Chuck Biscuits
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Sure it is! But I'm no stranger to irony and I can state such a thing with tongue placed firmly in cheek...can either of you say the same? More noise is what this universe needs! More noise and cacophony to go along with all the chaos and disorder. Pointing fingers at the noisemakers and crying foul whilst you sit on the sidelines and critique them is the behavior of the weak and callow.

So Terry, unless you've got some perspective to add to the issue and not just weak, "peanut-gallery" level commentary attacking my defense of the original article's author and my subsequent PWNAGE of one Jennifer Moreau, then just shut your mouth.
 
Jennifer Moreau
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Despite the highbrow “cunt” comment and convincing arguments from “Chuck Biscuits,” I stand by my position that one must check the facts before publishing someone’s death online. Yes, I feel bad for the blogger, but I’m not surprised he got duped. He says right on his blog that he flunked out of journalism school.
He may just be a blogger, but if you are disseminating information in the public realm, you have a responsibility to ensure it’s accurate. Otherwise, don’t publish anything. This guy has destroyed any credibility his blog or byline may have had. Here are some tips that may have helped: http://tinyurl.com/yfc77uc (Particularly number 4. Did this blogger ever pick up the phone in six months of e-mail correspondence and talk to the real Chuck Biscuits?)
 
Jennifer Moreau
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...and here is a Globe and Mail article on this, basically saying the same thing I was saying: Check the facts before you rush to publish: http://tinyurl.com/yl8cxfr
 
Jennifer Moreau
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And Mike Usinger: Do you actually moderate this blog or do you publish whatever bottom-feeder comments come your way? Being rude, insulting, immature, obnoxious etc. is one thing. But calling someone a cunt? That is blatant misogyny and reflects poorly on the Straight’s readership, your blog included. If the comments were racist, rather than sexist, in nature, I doubt you would have published them.
 
Mike Usinger
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Hi Jennifer. I actually don't moderate the postings here, although I do read them. I'll let the guys that do decide what's fit and what isn't give you their guidelines. Look for a message from the Web site's editorial team.

For the record, I agree with you that only a full-on subhuman (and I don't mean a member of the Vancouver punk band) would stoop to tossing around words like "cunt" in a comments section like this.
 
Travis Lupick
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Jennifer, we moderate. And we do not publish comments deemed overtly racist, sexist, or homophobic. But there aren't too many bad words that are going to get a comment tossed all on their own.

Is "Chuck Biscuits" a prick? (Another word that some might consider sexist.) Yep, I agree with Mike in saying that he is. But we try to keep the comment threads here as open as possible. So the prick got to have his say.
 
Justin Rock
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Hey Mike,Travis, how about letting some of the gals on your editorial team have a say? Whether or not a single word constitutes sexism is certainly debatable, I agree, but voicing the opinions of a moderation board full of 'pricks' hardly makes this thread open to a healthy dose of feminine criticism.
"Chuck Biscuits" is the big prick ruling the cock-house here, calling people flagrantly sexist terms and then telling others not to speak from the peanut gallery. Is he on the staff? Delete his small-minded bullshit, and then delete my comment. I will cease to relevant when his missing censures raise the quality of this thread back to less mind-numbing deficiencies.
 
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