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Kevin Gaudet: Free vote needed to end Canada’s wasteful long-gun registry

By Kevin Gaudet

One would think scrapping an extremely wasteful program like the gun registry would be easy. Of course, as it turns out, things don’t work that way in Ottawa. What started out as one piece of legislation that would end the registry grew to three and is now back to one. In early November, a vote is expected in Parliament on MP Candice Hoeppner’s private member’s bill C-391, which would end the wasteful long-gun registry. As has been the tradition with private member’s bills, all MPs should be allowed to vote freely on this bill.

The long-gun registry has proven to be the most wasteful program in the country. It even dwarfs Ontario’s recent $1-billion eHealth scandal. The road to ending this waste has been very long and difficult.

In 1995, Justice Minister Allan Rock declared his new grand scheme to register rifles and shotguns would cost only $119 million to build and run and that gun owners would cover $117 million of that through registration fees, leaving taxpayers on the hook for only $2 million. Supporters of the registry applauded its low costs, their opponents were dismissed as gun nuts, and Canadians quietly accepted the registry. How wrong they were! Costs soared and no improvement to public safety resulted.

In response, the Canadian Taxpayers Federation launched a petition that garnered over 14,000 signatures demanding the program be audited by the auditor general. It was, and the findings revealed astounding waste. For over 15 years, taxpayers have been soaked for no less that $2 billion. The program still costs from $15 to $80 million a year to operate.

In the spring of 2009, a private member’s bill, put forth by long-time long-gun registry opponent MP Garry Breitkreuz, was scheduled to go before Parliament for debate. Regrettably, the bill contained a few measures that even some long-run registry opponents couldn’t support. So, the government introduced a bill into the Senate in an effort to appease all. This plan, however, handed control over the gun registry to the provinces, which may have fixed one problem but created 13 more. For obvious reasons, the second bill failed to gain support from the crowd traditionally opposed to the wasteful long-run registry.

Rather than giving up, abolitionists persevered and came up with another plan. Hoeppner, the MP for Portage-Lisgar in Manitoba, stepped forward with a new private member’s bill. Her bill focuses solely on scrapping the long-gun registry. It should, therefore, be more acceptable both to abolitionists and opposition MPs alike. The November vote on the bill won’t end the program immediately. But it will pass an important hurdle, allowing the bill to go to committee for review.

It has been a long-standing parliamentary practice that MPs toe the party line on government bills and vote freely on private member’s bills—those sponsored by any backbench MP. This practice should continue for Hoeppner’s bill.

Spokespeople for NDP leader Jack Layton and Liberal leader Michael Ignatieff publicly have suggested the bill will likely be a free vote. Confirmation of this must come from the mouths of the leaders. Otherwise, there is too much wiggle room for them to back out of this commitment. Ignatieff, in particular, has said he wants his party to be friendlier to the West. Given how unpopular the long-gun registry is in rural and Western Canada, he has much to gain by allowing a free vote.

The long-gun registry has been a wasteful fiasco from inception through execution. It should be ended. More importantly, Canada’s elected representatives should be allowed to vote the wishes of their constituents in a free vote. Democracy must prevail and, perhaps, at long last, the wasteful long-gun registry will move closer to its end.

Kevin Gaudet is the federal director of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.

Comments

Gordon Smallwood
Its about time , this waste was finnally eliminated once and for all!
Lets pray that the leaders of the oposition parties will also let thier members have a free vote on the issue.
 
Mike T.
Yep, it's about time they do away with this failed paperwork project!

$80 millions a year would hire quite a few social workers to help our youths stay away from street gangs, drugs and protitution.

Good luck to MP Candice Hoeppner! Hopefully common sense will prevail!!
 
Harper's Got it Right on Guns
We need to get behind Harper and block this whole registration of guns idea. There's nothing wrong with guns. If more people had them, we'd all be much safer, and that's yet another reason why we've got to get behind the Conservatives and Harper and make sure they get a majority in the next election.
 
GIGGIDY
The long gun registry is a failed experiment and its death is long over due. The long gun registry has no tangible benefit for Canadians, except to make some feel warm and fuzzy. It costs too much and has yet to give any real results. Those in favor of it love to say how the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police want it around, and why wouldn’t they, the CACP love the “donations” they get from the software firm CGI who, coincidently, built and maintain the software used in the database.

The licensing system in place will give police all the information they need to stay safe and do their jobs.

Gun owners will still need to register their handguns and “restricted” firearms as well as maintain there licences.

If we want to curtail crime lets spend the money registering criminals, not law abiding hunters, farmers and target shooters!
 
Daniel from Vic
Yeah right - guns don't kill - people do. What a crock!
 
Nothing Wrong with Registering Guns
Yet another right-wing piece of propaganda by a mouthpiece for the Canadian Taxpayers Association. These guys might as well call themselves the Canadian Conservative Agenda Association. For a minute there, I thought I was reading the National Post.
 
frameman127@yahoo.ca
maybe we , the westerners can separate from eastern Canada. Im sick of some son of a bitch in ontario telling me how to live my life.......thank god for the wild rose party-gotta go now and clean my guns
 
Btok
It is a fact that most countries where citizens are not allowed to own firearms are communistic dictatorships!

It would be good to throw out so much of these Big Brother regulations that previous Liberal parties have brought in in past years that take away so many of our freedoms and what should be our constitutional rights! Did you notice the Liberal Democrat party in the USA is working on doing that to their people right now! Seems to ve a habit with Liberal Socialists to interfere with everyone's lives! They are born control freaks!
Abolish the Long Gun Registry!
 
Evil Eye
Any gun registry, any gun laws ill fail in Canada, until the USA grows up and its society matures to the point that they do not need guns.

There is a massive armory South of the boarder and all a gun registry does in Canada is pay bureaucrats to do nothing and penalize the honest people.
 
lyrical
I think this conservative communications organization might have a troll virus attached to its postings.

The passing of this bill could be disastrous, especially as the vote is taking place so close to the Montreal Massacre anniversary.
http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Bill+eliminate+Canada+long+registry+mo...

This entire escapade could backfire badly on the CPC.
 
Reader via e-mail
Dear Editor:

I am responding to “Kevin Gaudet: Free vote needed to end Canada’s wasteful long-gun registry” Nov 2. It is surprising that an organization concerned solely with the actual cost of things should mislead Canadians about the money that is actually at stake. It is true that a lot o money was spent licensing 2 million gun owners and registering 7 million firearms. But that money is long gone. The RCMP, which administers the program, stated that the projected savings from scrapping the long-gun portion of the registry would be less than $3 million a year. Police use the system 10,000 times each day and use it to prevent crime and support criminal investigations. Thus, it may not be surprising after all that the Conservative party and the Prime Minister are pulling out the stops to pass this law regardless of the facts. Mr. Gaudet writes as Director of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, Stephen Harper’s former employer. The Canadian Taxpayers Federation has political objectives that nothing to do with the money or with the safety of Canadians. They are simply opposed to any regulatory measures that might be undertaken by government because they hate government. If they were truly concerned about the expenditure of public money, they would pay heed to what Gilles Duceppe has said, namely, that the rationale for tearing down the registry after so much money has been spent and forcing the records on 7 million guns to be destroyed is like paying too much for a renovation and then burning down the house. THAT is a real waste of taxpayers’ money and that is what the abolition of the firearms registry would do.

Tim Quigley
Professor of Law
University of Saskatchewan
 
Evil Eye
Prof Quigley forgets one thing.

Handguns are restricted weapons and have been for a long time, yet crooks have plenty - where do they come from? Three guesses and the first two don't count - the USA.

Automatic weapons are prohibitive weapons and have been for almost for ever, yet the crooks have plenty - where do they come from? Three guesses and the first two don't count - the USA.

The fallacy of the gun registry was that it penalized the honest folk, yet did nothing to prohibit crooks and gangsters getting weapons.

The USA is the great arms-mart in the world and until they tackle this insane sexual attraction to guns, the crooks and gangsters will always get guns, guns that the gun registry never asked if you owned - handguns and automatic weapons.

Quigley lives in a fools paradise, reserved for academics.
 
Wes
Quigley, your credibility went down the tubes here with the 10,000 times a day comment (an automated system generates queries, but seriously, you are implying officers in the course of their duties, consult the registry 10,000 times a day)? Then is it is on with the ad hominem and guilt by association. Then you accuse the author of deception, presumably deliberately confusing ongoing operational costs with startup costs. This despite the author stating explicitly that the program costs between 15 and 80 million a year to operate - not 2 billion. If I had posted this I would hide the fact that I was a Professor of Law - or at least where!
 
AmberE
Any person with a gun license (PAL) can borrow a rifle or shotgun, therefore having the gun registered does not mean that the gun is always in the possession of the registered owner. The licensing of the people using guns is where the government should be focusing their attention and our tax dollars.

More importantly, is how do they get the illegal guns out of the hands of the criminals?

Further more any officer will tell you that when they attend a residence they do not assume that there is a possibility of guns there only if the homeowner has a gun license and registered firearms.
 
R.K. House; U.E.L., I.S.E.E. [Retired]
I can see urbanites being afraid of weapons/guns on their streets but in the north and west long guns or rifles/shotguns are a required item for either protection from wild predators or for putting meat on the table during legal hunting seasons & in the course of hunting for a living as many of the indigenous peoples do. Go back to the F.A.C. method and employ a local RCMP officer or city policeman as the Firearms officer for the city or town in which a gun owner lives. The F.A.C., method worked for years as the person was licenced to own and acquire a firearm. Most officers appointed to those duties in the past knew the applicants for an F.A.C. and a criminal records check was done on each applicant before they could even acquire an F.A.C. [Firearms Acquisition Certificate]. What do we have now as licences? A Possession Only Licence/Permit and a Possession/Acquisition Licence. Kill the long gun registry and go back to the F.A.C. Method & a Local Firearms Officer, again. That is all that is needed and all that has ever been needed.
And everybody is correct. The gun registry has not kept handguns or automatic weapons out of the hands of the criminals or gangs and has placed an unnecessary tax burden upon Law Abiding & Honest Citizens of Canada.
R.K. [Ken] House; U.E., I.S.E.E. [Retired]
United Empire Loyalist
Emeritus Member:
I.S.E.E. = International Society of Explosives Engineers
Course Director
Canadian Explosives Technology Inc.
Whitehorse, Yukon Territory, Canada
 
Katherine Worsley
get rid of the long gun registery
 
Nasty Celt
Yes, lets have a free vote by all means. But not by the pathetic political animals in Ottawa. We need a referendum to get to the truth about how Canadians really feel about this and many other issues. I'm sick and tired of having my vote diluted by rural over-representation. It's time we got to the heart of democracy and did away with these elected interpreters and handled the important things ourselves. They can continue to oversee things and implement our decisions but they have to be kept on a short leash. Something akin to recall.
 
beelzebub
Yessireee, the registry sure put a stop to the violence in BC. and lets not forget how it has been responsible for putting the perpetrators in jail.....

A POX on the nutty professor and his ilk. Criminals do not register guns, criminals do not obtain license to purchase guns, criminals are not caught by querying the registry. It is nothing other than a make job project for some constituency.

The only thing it MAY do is allow the police to find out who the gun was sold to sometime in the past. Big rip of tax dollars for nada. 10,000 times a day? Bullshit, that is the number of times the sex offender registry is queried.
 
Garth Wall
Its a waste of time and Money. I have always adhered to the laws of the land and always will but this one is a total waste of time. Its funny how every time the registry comes into question we start to see piles of confiscated guns on TV no one ever seems to ask the question of how many of these guns have been picked up due to the registery? I would love to see those stats. Also how many lives have been saved due to the registery? I would suggest that due to the registry more guns have gone underground and have been sold and resulted in deaths from ending up in the hands of the criminals. Maybe these are the piles of guns we see on the local news stations.
 
 
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