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Researcher Chris Shaw says GlaxoSmithKline’s product-information leaflet for its H1N1 vaccine doesn’t carry nearly enough safety data.

Matthew Burrows

What’s in your H1N1 flu vaccine?

Chris Shaw wasn’t always skeptical about vaccines. The neuroscientist at the University of British Columbia had his teenage son vaccinated with most of the recommended shots. But then he started studying some of the ingredients commonly found in vaccines.

What he discovered caused him to go cold turkey on all shots for his six-year-old daughter. And that includes the vaccine for the H1N1 flu.

“I am not convinced H1N1 is sufficiently hazardous to most people to risk the potential downside of the vaccine,” Shaw said over the phone from his office in the research pavilion at the Vancouver Coastal Health Authority.

Shaw isn’t an easily dismissed vaccine conspiracy theorist. He is a leading expert on amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS, or Lou Gehrig’s disease) and Parkinson’s disease. While investigating unusually high rates of ALS and other neurological disorders among veterans who have Gulf War syndrome, he found evidence that the cause may have been aluminum salt, an ingredient in the cocktail of vaccines given to soldiers before deployment.

Although aluminum salt isn’t present in the H1N1 vaccine, Shaw’s discovery made him concerned about other vaccines, including the swine-flu shot. He isn’t alone in his thoughts.

Despite a full frontal assault of news about the dangers of the flu and the importance of vaccination, a survey in late October revealed that only 36 percent of Canadians said they would get the shot. Lack of trust in the vaccine was cited as the main reason for vaccine opposition. Another poll in November found that 65 percent of Canadians believe the media has overreacted to the threat of swine flu.

Even many health workers aren’t convinced. In two separate surveys, in the U.K. (Pulse) and Hong Kong (British Medical Journal), published in August, half of health-care professionals said they didn’t intend to get the vaccine.

Canadian health officials and some newspaper columnists have reacted by accusing vaccine opponents of being conspiracy mongers or just plain irresponsible.

Who is right? Is the cure really worse than the disease? Let’s look at some numbers.

First, the disease. Swine flu had killed 161 Canadians as of November 12. That works out to one death per 200,000 Canadians in the past six-and-a-half months. Over the same period of time, major cardiovascular diseases typically claim 240 times more Canadian lives (about 39,000), cancer claims 230 times more (37,000 deaths), pneumonia kills 18 times more (2,800), and accidental falls claim eight times more (1,260), according to calculations based on 2005 Statistics Canada figures.

H1N1 has about the same death rate as hernias. But we don’t see scary front-page headlines for months on end about hernias, pneumonia, or falling down.

“It’s really not causing—and is not going to cause and nowhere has caused—significant levels of illness or death,” Dr. Richard Schabas, Ontario’s former chief medical officer of health, told the CBC on November 12.

Schabas said H1N1 “has ultimately turned out to be, from a pandemic perspective, a dud”.

What about the vaccine? Is it safe? Despite the onslaught of confident pronouncements from health officials and doctors, Shaw says he hasn’t seen enough information on the safety of the vaccine. “If the science were there, we could make a rational decision. But it’s a coin toss.”

Looking for answers, Shaw turned to the 24-page product-information leaflet on the vaccine released by drug giant GlaxoSmithKline. Health Canada used this document in approving the shot.

The leaflet leaves Shaw cold. “You couldn’t turn this in as a master’s thesis anywhere I know of and get a passing grade,” he said, calling the leaflet a “shocking document”.

Shaw said the material lacks basic information. For example, there is no safety data at all for several groups of people—pregnant women, people aged over 60, kids aged 10 to 17, and children under three. For kids three to nine years old, there is only “very limited” data.

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Lorraine
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I'm really happy I didn't get the vaccine
even tho' I'm well over 65 yrs
I sure won't get it now, had me druthers anyway and
didn't intend to get the vaccine.

 
DroneLove
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Great article, very refreshing to see this kind of thing in the news!
 
RodSmelser
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Is this the same Dr Chris Shaw who's an Olympics critic?
Rod Smelser
 
DarklyDreaming
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Finally! An article that isn't so "pro-vaccine" - refreshing and insightful. Thank you! I think I'l hold off on vaccinating my children and myself - I was always leery, and for good reason, it seems.
 
Malicia
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Brilliant! Thanks to The Straight for having the cahones to do this story. Thank you for asking the right questions from a pertinent and objective source. Thank you Dr. Shaw for caring enough to do the work and for speaking up. I sincerely hope you continue to investigate vaccines and their connection to increasing numbers of serious health problems.
My teen aged son and I are in "high risk" categories and I was worried that my choice in not getting the shots was a bad one. We both work in client services and so far we are in better health than the people around us who had the shot and are suffering from "colds." I attribute this to our history in making significant choices in our diets and obsessive hand washing.
When will we stand up and demand our governments to clamp down on drug companies? I shudder when I think about where this virus began.
And don't even get me started about the irresponsibility of mainstream media and the hype that both the drug companies and the government relied upon to grease this frenzied wheel for them. I only hope their fervor will be as strong when they report on the suffering this vaccine could create.
 
turb0chrg
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Yup, Chris also brought forward another perspective about the Olympics in his book "Five Ring Circus".
 
IMPRESSED
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That so many Canadians are not excepting the media hype. There is hope yet for us. Who profits from the sale of this vaccine? There has been no long term study on the effect of this drug on the human immune system, I have encorage many others to do their research first before taking this shot. I for one have not bought into the hype.

Image if we had that media hype to help underdeveloped nations get access to the much needed drugs(tested) that is so needed? Good on the GS for printing this story!
 
2ndLook
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While many things Dr. Shaw brings up are interesting and worthy of closer investigation, I find some of the statistics in this article misleading. H1N1 had killed 'only' 161 people as of the 12th, true, but in the week since then that number has increased to 250.

There were as many new deaths just this past week as there were total deaths in the first six months of surveillance.

And the number of new deaths has roughly doubled every week for the past month - if this keeps up, there will be more than 11,000 dead from H1N1 by the end of December.

Is that going to happen? Probably not. (I certainly hope not!) If this flu follows normal flu trends it will peak sometime in the next week or so, stabilize for a few weeks, and then start to decline leaving us with possibly as few as 600 dead (1 in 55,000 or so) by the end of the year. Still a small number, certainly, but several times higher than the 161 Mr. Roslin seems to be implying is a typical 6-month death toll for this strain.

And since H1N1 is already bucking a lot of the normal flu trends (active earlier in the year, killing young, healthy people, etc.), it's a little soon to start forecasting how it's all going to play out.
 
Lambert O H Curzon
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H1N1 shot, the Doctors are saying my side effects are a coincidence and not related to my shot. Huge blister on lower lip extending towards chin, also rectal bleeding, bruising on my arms, constant runny nose and congestion. All this within less than 16 hours of the shot.
 
FreeDee
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Bravo to the Straight for some actual journalism! Canadians have waited far too long for their mainstream media to tell them the unvarnished truth, whatever it may be. We deserve to know what we're dealing with, including where the money went. We deserve to have our questions answered with candor, fully and honestly. We deserve, and HAVE THE RIGHT TO, government which, after WE elect it, and while WE are paying for it, will respect us enough not to treat us like dumb livestock. Seems the "herd immunity" they were pushing on us was more a descriptor of what they think of us than a means to keep us healthy.
On our site, www.canadiansforhealthfreedom.org, we have a page where Canadian vaccine victims can report what has happened to them, and other Canadians can decide for themselves what risks, and what benefits, accrue with the H1N1 vaccine.
Thank you for allowing us herd people the opportunity to think for ourselves!
 
WJC847
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Finally, a reporter who has made the effort to critically probe the H1N1 vaccine... Lambert, you're right... vaccine reactions are frequently denied as "coincidental".. and since there are no LONG-TERM follow up studies, any auto-immune disorders that could show up years from now will rarely be questioned as being possibly vaccine related. Please consider posting your reaction at canadiansforhealthfreedom.org ...

Re. grossly inflated stats, google the article by CBS News - Oct. 21st 'Swine Flu Overestimated' ... a real eye-opener that official state lab results prior to when lab testing was stopped showed only a tiny % of suspected H1N1 cases actually tested positive... Even allowing let's say for a huge jump in rates since then, the stats don't come remotely close to what's being reported. Bear in mind, that many cases - even deaths - labelled as being caused by H1N1 have NOT actually been verified by lab tests. Epidemiologist, Dr. Tom Jefferson of the respected Cochrane independent scientific review has blasted shoddy flu stat reporting and notes that there are over 200 viruses than can cause flu-LIKE symptoms, and while these may not all be equally circulating, the CBS graph (lower in the article) makes it disturbingly clear that a lot of what is labelled H1N1 or even the seasonal flu, do not actually check out for such when put to the test.
 
Bea
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Good to find an honest review of vaccines. Dr Chris Shaw really knows what he is talking about. Thank you Georgia Straight for printing it like it is.
 
TheParadigmShift
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Thank you Georgia Straight for printing an article that isn't blatant fear mongering propaganda funded by the advertising dollars of the big pharmaceutical companies like the other "news" outlets do.
 
Joseph
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If someone gets sick before taking the jab, the pharmaceutical advocates are quick to blame the flu. If someone gets sick after taking the jab, they say it's just a coincidence.

The best reason not to take this poison may be this: Where's the pandemic? This non-event is turning out to be reminiscent of the anthrax scare that followed 911. The difference today is that an administrative system is been erected to apply doses on a mass scale.

I've never taken a flu shot in my life, nor have my kids--nor are we planning to, no matter how much the CDC and WHO ramp up the fear level.

It's all about profits. Period.
 
Dina
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There are always going to be those people who like to go against the grain! This is one of them. I got my son vaccinated and I will get it for myself when it is released. As I read through this article I heard alot of "my opinion" and "may have been a cause", that is NOT FACT, sorry people! Also to compare a virus to a hernia, laughable!
 
Jenny
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So great to see some honest information. Something of great concern is the fact that reports from Ukraine indicate a new mutated virus similar to the plague with completely different symptoms than H1N1. This has been completely blacked out through our mainstream media. Info on this is only available through the internet. WHY the silence if not because they are covering this up intentionally, and WHO is once again hiding the truth by their obviously incorrect statements. Check out this blog which contains numerous links on this subject.
http://ukraineplague.blogspot.com
 
Syncrochef
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Rod Smelser says:
"Is this the same Dr Chris Shaw who's an Olympics critic?"
What the flip would Dr. Shaw's opposition to the olympics have to do with his knowledge about this topic?

 
Audrey
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I am glad a knowledgeable health care provider sent me this link. WIthout FULL and COMPLETE information too many of the masses just follow and don't ask appropriate questions. Why should folks just inject unknown, toxic substances in to their body without trying to get themselves to optimal health through great nutrition, positive thinking and daily excercise (I mean just going for a walk!). The best way to beat any flu and cold is to keep your immune system supported. Daily Vitamin D, C and Zinc will go a long way to keeping you healthy!
 
Balance
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Hi there, As a post-grad steeped in the how-to's of scientific reasoning, it is always interesting to note when things co-occur, such as a shot and a symptom. However, unless all the other things co-occuring are considered, such as allergies, preexisting conditions, exposure to other micororganisms, no singular causation can be safely assumed. It is a fundamental law of scientific reasoning that just because things happen at the same time doesn't mean that they are necessarily causally linked. Just because someone had breakfast and then died of a heart attack, does not mean that the breakfast caused it. More examination would have to be done and a variety of other co-occurances considered. It is important to take a balanced perspective on both sides of the vaccine fence. And certainly, more research into causal links, as identified by co-occurances, needs to be done by those who are fundamentally unbiased, ie with no gain in the outcome either way. Without question, the effects of the H1N1 virus can not be undermined either and those also need to be considered and studied further. Unfortunately, in a pandemic situation (yes it is not as bad as they thought it would be, but hindsight is always 20:20) measures had to be taken and fast. Can you imagine how much flack there would be if they hadn't developed a vaccine quickly? You would be saying something completely different if the pandemic had panned out the way that was predicted last Spring. People would pick the less of two evils, and that would have been the vaccine, should more fatalities be occuring now. BTW I had the H1N1 and I am a healthy person. I was symptomatic for a month and a half. If I had have had a choice between losing so much time and suffering the symptoms, and a vaccine which had a good possibility of stopping the disease, I would have taken the latter, (AND I would have eaten my fill of tuna too, ;) ) That's the part that may be missing too, not only consideration of proven links versus cooincidences, but also that H1N1 is a harsh virus to have to fight without medical intervention. Time will tell whether or not the vaccine is worth the risk that the H1N1 brings and that is everyones' individual priviledge to decide for themselves. Fear mongering on either side of the vaccine controversy does nothing to ensure we all stay healthy. Ranting needs to be replaced with positive solutioning and an eye to deliberate research whose goal is purely for our collective health.
 
Art
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yup what a brilliant article , makes me regret getting polio and smallpox shots when I was a kid. I guess they weren't neededaccording to Shaw....am off to join the flat earth society and then to read a book on how the moonlanding was a hollywood hoax...it is great having this new wisdom propagated by the straight....
 
fan22
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re:Balance

Could not agree with you more. Well written post!


 
truth22
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re:Audrey

-"Daily Vitamin D, C and Zinc will go a long way to keeping you health"

You may think it will, but I take supplements, eat healthy than most, exercise daily and I still got H1N1. Vitamin D is not the super cure and your friend in health-care is part of the problem, not the solution. This article is littered with the same anecdotal 'proof' as they claim others are using for their pro-vaccine arguments.

BTW I do work in Healthcare and I am not one of the ignorant ones. Maybe if the unions told the healthcare workers it was the right thing to do, it would be done with no questions asked.
 
natalie
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I was really glad to read this article, i have seen several others by leading neuro people saying the same types of things, it shameful that the media and our government use fear to manipulate us, polls showed most Canadians were not planning on getting this vaccine, then wham a 13 year old dies and is put on the the front page of newpapers everywhere stiking fear into the hearts of all parents and double wham, they tell us there may be a shortage of vaccine, nothing works better than telling people they can't have it to make them want it, worked like a charm because the polls then showed a significant increase in the # of Canadians wanting this vaccine, we are being led like sheep (most likely to slaughter) wake up people, stop buying into all this hype, why are you trusting the government, who sit in the back pocket of large corporations like the pharmaceutical companies, with your health and your childrens' health? when do they ever tell us the truth ? isn't the truth that more people have died from the regular old flu this year than H1N1 ? and ask yourself this ...do the pharmaceutical companies really want you healthy ? wouldn't that put them out of business? read or listen (in their ads)to the side effects of the drugs that they manufacture for us ? we'd have to be crazy to take most of them and this one is no different. Thank you to those who are unafraid to tell the truths.
 
WJC847
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Balance - I agree that just because something happens at the same time it's not necessarily linked... but how often are links - even night and day ones - brushed off with the "coincidence theory"... Right now there are numerous reports coming from women experiencing miscarriages within hours or days of vaccination. Most of these women are running into the reaction that miscarriage is common and that the vaccine played no role in such - even in pregnancies that are well along. Why is there no follow up study of these cases? No monitoring to compare rates of miscarriage etc.? Why is the vaccine given the benefit of the doubt? Why is the vaccine ASSUMED to be innocent ... especially given that the ONUS is on the vaccine producer to ensure safety rather than the victim to prove a link? Since when did assumption constitute scientific integrity.

A good doctor understands that observation plays a key role in understanding cause and effect ... Far too many people have surrendered common sense and dotting connecting for assumption of vaccine/medication innocence because an "expert" hasn't proved the connection.

Also in light of GSK's shoddy safety data, I find it interesting that you'd rather have taken the vaccine - which may or may not have worked, in lieu of acquiring superior natural immunity to H1N1. Do you assume that the vaccine has no long-term implications...
 
JohnTheRevelator
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Excellent article!! So great to see something in the press other than the one-sided "everyone must get the vaccine" message that the Canadian media has been bombarding us with for so many months now.

Mike Cowie, a regular contributor to The Straight, also wrote a recent article that touches on this topic:

The Scary Health Rant: An Acetaminophen-Asthma Link, Breastfeeding, and The H1N1 Shot

http://www.mikesanddislikes.com/society_justice_law_the_scary_health_ran...
 
pogda
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Bravo, for better or worse, the human race is overdue for a large die-off. H1N1 may be nature's way or restoring the balance and correcting the problems of overpopulation, food shortage (in some parts of the world) and climate change. While it does provide some counter to the current hype about H1N1, nobody can predict where it will go in the absence of a vaccination program, which does work, side effects and all. Nowhere is the efficacy of the vaccine questioned, just those of possible side effects. Nature may achieve its aims if sufficient people leave themselves vulnerable to the virus, which kills the young and reproductive members of our race.
 
WJC847
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Art... you need a history lesson and not the vaccine heroic myths that have been perpetuated for decades... Death from smallpox, like other infectious diseases was already on the decline thanks to improved sanitation, proper drinking water, better housing etc. prior to wide use of the vaccine.

In fact, some of the worst epidemics of smallpox followed massive mandatory vaccination campaigns such as in the Philippines in the 1910's... In addition a few telling quotes include:

"How is it that smallpox is five times as likely to be fatal in the vaccinated as in the unvaccinated? How is it that some of our most highly unvaccinated towns, smallpox is rife whilst in some of our most poorly vaccinated towns, it is almost unknown?" Dr. L. Parry, British Medical Journal, 1/21/28.... Years later the BMJ 1/5/76 commented, "It is now accepted that the risks of routine smallpox vaccination outweigh those of natural infection."

Re. polio, International Mortality Statistics from 1923 - 1953 show
that polio was already on the decline by 47% and 55% respectively for the U.S. and England prior to the introduction of the vaccine. What most people don't know is that after the release of the polio vaccine the disease was re-classified and subject to re-diagnosis to skew stats in favour of the vaccine. For example, prior to the vaccine - meningitis and cocksackie infections were ALL classified as "polio" and catagorized as separate diseases after the vaccine was introduced. Dr. Bernard Greenberg, Chairman of the Committee on Evaluation and Standards of The American Policy Health Association during the 1950s also testified to this in Congressional Hearings in 1962... (This is a huge topic and you should access the untold history concerning
the polio vaccine at thinktwice.com)

Lastly, if vaccines saved us from soaring death rates from infectious disease rather than sanitation etc. then why don't we administer a vaccine for Scarlet Fever as a preventative measure? While, a vaccine for Scarlet Fever was created, it was never administered. Death from the disease plummetted before the advent of either the vaccine or antibiotics...
 
Declan McRoy
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2nd Look said:

"While many things Dr. Shaw brings up are interesting and worthy of closer investigation, I find some of the statistics in this article misleading. H1N1 had killed 'only' 161 people as of the 12th, true, but in the week since then that number has increased to 250."

Funny enough " the second wave of H1N1 "(assumed to be H1N1 since they don't test) started about the same time as the vaccination campaign.

Some of you might want to see that as coincidence but, I for one don't believe in coincidences.

 
Brad Archer
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Where are people getting the idea that Mr. Chris Shaw is a doctor? Because he's wearing a lab coat? The article says nothing of the sort.
 
sleepswithangels
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"Where are people getting the idea that Mr. Chris Shaw is a doctor? Because he's wearing a lab coat? The article says nothing of the sort."

The article clearly states he is a neuroscientist. That means he has a doctorate. You can't call yourself a marine biologist or an archeologist unless you have a doctorate. Of course among mass media journalists the standards are slipping...ergo you have them referring to Stephen Harper as an economist despite the fact the dumb asshole only has a masters and has never worked as an economist.

I trust Chris Shaw's doctorate over that of the typical MD as the bulk of their training is concentrated on learning how to push dangerous, but profitable, pharmaceuticals.

Here's a tip from my personal experience. I stopped eating meat 30 years ago but, while generally quite healthy, I would get colds or the flu every year. 5 years ago I stopped eating processed wheat and guess what...I haven't had a cold or the flu since. The bloody glutens in wheat clog your intestines and prevent the absorbsion of nutrients and contribute to weight gain. I'd also recommend eliminating dairy products. Both wheat and dairy are dangerous to health and industry lobbying efforts have corrupted Health Canada so you can't rely on the advice of those who take your tax dollars and are supposed to protect us from dangerous food and medicines.
SMBs
 
Seriously
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This guy is not a doctor and has no idea what he's talking about. The H1N1 vaccine is the same as every flu vaccine given every single year for the past several decades. You're much more likely to die from the flu than these freak occurrences with vaccines. Shame on him for spreading his uneducated and misguided viewpoints in the public media.
 
Tamara @ ParentingByNature.com
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Bravo for some unbiased journalism re: the possible dangers of the H1N1 vax. So refreshing in light of all the media hype. Good for you for stepping outside of the box!! I just hope enough people get a chance to read this before they get the shot.
 
Susan
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Anyone can wear a lab coat, but a quick check on the UBC site will tell you that Chris Shaw is indeed Dr. Chris Shaw. See for yourself: http://www.neuroscience.ubc.ca/shaw.htm
 
Urald Umb
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Horrible article fear-mongering when vaccinations save lives. It's natural to fear foreign material being injected into your body, but logic shows that there's nothing to fear. http://www.csicop.org/si/show/anti-vaccination_movement/ One doctor nay-saying doesn't mean your fears are warranted.
 
Gen
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I am disappointed with the Straight and especially with Dr. Shaw for their sloppy, sensationalistic journalism and abuse of 'science' in order to sell a story. I am both a clinical physician and a research scientist, and I question the interpretation of Dr. Shaw's statements regarding the H1N1 vaccination.
I am an OBGYN, and I have seen the detrimental effects of the H1N1 virus on pregnant women. Infection with the influenza virus during pregnancy is an independent risk factor for both admission to an intensive care unit and for death. Babies during the first six months of life and women in the first six weeks post-partum are also amongst the most high risk populations for death and serious complications of influenza.
While the influenza vaccination and its components have theoretical risks of adverse effects, the influenza virus has absolute risks of serious illness and death. And, like the pandemic 1918 strain of influenza, H1N1 appears to have a particularly detrimental effect upon pregnant women. The 1918 flu was notorious for causing not only maternal deaths, but also spontaneous abortions and stillbirths. While 'only' about 250 people in Canada have died from H1N1, if one of those people is your wife, daughter, or the mother of your unborn child, you may suddenly question your decision not to get vaccinated.
I've had the vaccine (as well as the vaccine for the seasonal flu). I've given it to my own son, and I have administered it to at least a half a dozen of my pregnant patients after informed consent. Unfortunately, before the vaccine was available, I developed influenza (most likely H1N1). I was completely incapacited, in bed, for a week, and couldn't walk without holding onto a wall for ten days.
The H1N1 vaccine should NOT be compared to the vaccines for polio and Smallpox: these 'old' vaccines contained live or live-attenuated virus, and were, admittedly, dangerous. However, it is well-known and well-proven that vaccinations save many, many, more lives than they endanger.
Individuals like Jenny McCarthy, pseudoscientists, and conspiracy theorists are having a field day with this H1N1 pandemic. Realistically, this is a non-story. Vaccination campaigns are only promoted in order to improve public health and education. They are not profit-driven. I am ashamed that the valid research of a fellow UBC scientist is being used to promote fear and paranoia. I genuinely hope that some of his statements have been misinterpreted.
 
fan22
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Declan McRoy -- "Funny enough " the second wave of H1N1 "(assumed to be H1N1 since they don't test) started about the same time as the vaccination campaign."

1) Its not funny as people have died??
2) Flu season typically starts in November so a rise in the number of cases = the rise in the number of deaths.
3) Flu Vaccines carry an inactive dead virus. So how are people getting H1N1 from it?? Really, please explain this.
4) 6.6 Million Canadians have gotten the shot, 46 serious reactions, 0 deaths from vaccine. Interesting fact huh?

Its shocking how uneducated people are on this subject.
 
RodSmelser
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Synchochef:

What the flip would Dr. Shaw's opposition to the olympics have to do with his knowledge about this topic?
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Well, it seems it is the same Chris Shaw, and I found it a bit strange that this wasn't mentioned in the article. I think it's called context or background. If you see an article in which someone who's been in the public eye in one role suddenly appears in another one, they usually make mention of the fact.

My question apparently drew quite a negative response in terms of Disagree clicks. I don't know why, I just wondered if this was the same person. Are some people a bit defensive or what?

Rod Smelser
 
Joe Schmoe
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The benefits outweigh the risks = the benefits to the pharmaceutical companies outweigh the risks to your health. Don't get stuck!
 
Joseph
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This really is about $wine Flu not Swine Flu

The drug pusher are really pigs for profit. Unfortunately a lot of well intended honest people will be duped and harmed by the huge pharma PR campaign ( likely the largest in history).

It is very wise to check Dr Google on this issue. Don't just get a second opinion, get dozens of opinions from many countries, some of which refuse buying into the vaccine hype.
 
j.fitzgerald
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As the old saying goes, if you can't dazzle them with your footwork, baffle them with your bullshit.
It may be a mistake, but I think I'll err on the side of caution, and get the shot. I suffer from COPD already and feel I can't take the risk, although otherwise I am healthy. Goddamn cigarettes...!!!
 
WJC847
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Gen, you say vaccine programs are not profit driven... Excuse me!

"The profits for the ten drug companies in the Fortune 500 were more than the profits for all the other 490 businesses put together... This industry uses its weight and power to co-opt every institutiion that might stand in its way including the US Congress, the FDA, academia, medical centers and the medical profession itself."

Dr. Marcia Angell, former Editor, The New England Journal of Medicine "Members of the CDC's Vaccine Advisory Committee get money from vaccine manufacturers. Relationships include sharing a vaccine patent, owning stock in a vaccine company, getting money to monitor manufacturer's tests and funding academic universities."

United Press International Investigates the Vaccine Conflict

"Public policy regarding vaccines is fundamentally flawed. It is permeated by conflicts of interest, based on poor scientific methodology and insulated from independent criticism. It's apparent that critical medical decisions for a generation of American children are being made by small committees whose members have incestuous ties with agencies that stand to gain power or manufacturers that stand to gain enormous
profits from the policy made."

Dr. Jane Orient, Exectutive Director of the American Association of Physicians and Surgeons

etc. etc.

You then speak of "pseudo science" ... Have you actually read GSK's safety data? It's appalling! Moreover, vaccines are routinely tested against non-inert placebos thereby skewing the stats since no proper control is in place... now that's pseudo-scientific.... No vaccine has been subject to a doubleblind, long-term controlled study comparing vaccinated versus non-vaccinated populations .... now that's pseudo-scientific...
read most any vaccine insert and it will say that it's not tested
for carcinogenic potential (nor mutagenic nor ability to impair fertility...)
... now that's pseudo-scientific.

(By the way, I was not comparing the smallpox vaccine to others but replying to the specific point raised by the commenter ... though given given the reactogenicity and systemic toxicity of newer adjuvants such as AS03, MF-59 etc... I hardly think these newer vaccines are anything to brag about ... Again, whose monitoring for links long-term to auto-immune or neurological disorders?

Again, the ONUS should be on the producers of vaccines to show
evidence of no harm, not for parents of vaccine damaged kids to
prove the vaccine was the culprit ... Your entry did nothing to address the numbers of women who are miscarrying within hours or days of vaccination... and no they're not all "coincidences" as vaccine apologists like to claim.
 
veganf
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"Realistically, this is a non-story. Vaccination campaigns are only promoted in order to improve public health and education. They are not profit-driven." - Gen

ROTFLMAO. Seriously? It is mostly about the $$. Pharmaceutical companies are for-profit businesses, not non-profit good will agencies.
 
John Morris
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I know no one who's had a serious adverse effect from the vaccine. Most people get a sore arm for a few days.
The potentially major effects from the flu - such as death - concern me far more than a sore arm.

Shaw is one man and his is one man's opinion. Thousands of health care professionals say otherwise.
 
Tanya
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Thank you! Finally some real number crunching and facts, this makes weighing the options less foggy for me. GREAT, GREAT article.

The amount of weeks that we've spend researching the adjuvant vs. nonadjuvant, GBS, Gulf war syndrome, ALS, MS etc. the above article has summed up my concerns and fears with real numbers, percentages and facts. This is what I've been looking for the last few weeks.

Thank you for stepping up and getting this news out there and no thank you to the vaccine for me and my family.
 
ducksrock
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I have asthma and I'm not getting the vaccine. We need to look at the root of the issue and stop factory farming instead of grabbing at every band-aid "cure". First there was the bird flu then now the swine flu is part avian part swine. This is all as a result of intensive farming. The zoonotic diseases will continue to mutate and spread if we do not stop raising 55 billion farm animals each year for food. Chasing after a vaccine is like a dog chasing after his tail. We need to look at the big picture. Lower our consumption of meat and stop intensive animal agriculture.
 
S. Fletcher
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Thanks to Dr Shaw, Alex Roslin and the Georgia Straight for telling the truth about H1N1 vaccine and vaccines in general. Two critical points are unknown to the public. One is that vaccine adverse event monitoring is “flimsy” as Dr Shaw politely puts it. Reasons for this are that reporting is not mandatory and that those who monitor and investigate reports often have a vested interest in promoting vaccines and therefore tend to dismiss adverse events as “merely coincidental”. The other critical point is that it’s most likely that many serious adverse events go unrecognized because they emerge long after the vaccine is given.
 
Medicine?
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Ever ask yourself why we have medication for almost all type of social behaviours? I thought educated peopled believed in longterm comprehensive testing of all types of drugs before human consumption.
Our Provincial Health Officer stated that he expects to have 50 Deaths from H1N1 for the year, our "regular flu's" we average anywhere from 200 to 800 deaths a year.
I would be interested to know how much this is costing us and who is benefitting economically from this "pandemic"?
 
skeptic
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so he and his son were both vaccinated for all the usual preventable conditions such as polio, and they both grew up healthy with no mentionable side effects yet he won't have his daughter vaccinated. lol, what?
 
RickW
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One commentor says:
"Shaw is one man and his is one man's opinion. Thousands of health care professionals say otherwise".
It only makes sense to promote one's own chosen profession, does it not?
Can anyone come up with a naysayer who stands to make hugh dollars if people DO NOT get the vaccine? -- because there sure ain't anyone promoting the shots who doesn't stand to profit from them, in one form or fashion.
RickW
 
RickW
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"While seasonal flu attacks about 20 percent of the population in an average year, experts estimate that even in Britain -- the worst-hit country in Europe so far -- fewer than 10 percent of people have had H1N1 swine flu."
http://www.reuters.com/article/GCA-SwineFlu/idUSTRE5A52FU20091112

To put the thing in perspective, most people do not even get the illness, whether it be H1N1, or measles, or polio, or smallpox. And of those who do, most (surprise, surprise) do not die.

So -- to put the proverbial show on the other foot, who can objectively attribute their survival to the shot they received?
RickW
 
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