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Sex worker Susan Davis advocates the decriminalization of prostitution.

Veteran sex worker Susan Davis wants people to know that her “clients aren’t the bogeymen they are made out to be”.

“I love what I do,” Davis told the Georgia Straight in an interview at the Vancouver Public Library’s central branch. “I think the guys are the best; a lot of them are my friends. Some I’ve known for 18 years. How do you not become emotionally attached?”

Davis, who has been in the business for 23 years, insisted that stability and security for sex workers can only come with decriminalization of prostitution.

FIRST, a national coalition of feminists who support sex workers’ rights, hosted a lively forum on the subject at the library on November 23. Davis, who was on the panel, suggested that men who buy sex can actually help enhance the safety of those in the trade.

“I think that clients are our biggest resource in trying to combat exploitation, trafficking, and exploitation of youth within the sex industry,” declared Davis, a member of the West Coast Cooperative of Sex Industry Professionals, in the interview.

Another panellist, SFU sociology instructor and researcher Chris Atchison, echoed Davis’s sentiments. He revealed the results of an extensive three-year study—called “Johns’ Voice”—that documents the relationship between buyers and sellers of sex in Canada.

“I wanted to understand how these men engage in purchasing behaviour and what their relationships with sex-trade workers are about,” Atchison told the audience. “I wanted to know whether social and legal intervention such as the Swedish model is warranted by any empirical evidence.”

Atchison was referring to a Swedish law introduced in 1999 that criminalized johns’ purchasing of sexual services, but not the sale of those services by prostitutes. At the forum, organizers screened a 10-minute video that showed many Swedish sex workers are unhappy with the law. One sex worker featured in the video claimed that things have become much more dangerous for street workers, since they no longer have as much time to negotiate with their customers.

Atchison was critical of the Swedish law. The men he spoke to were seeking companionship and a connection with the sex workers they patronized, he said, adding that they wanted to engage in a safe and respectful relationship. He also reported that many customers saw the same sex worker for months or years, and that 79 percent said they wished to see prostitution decriminalized and regulated.

“I’m not here to present a picture of the sex buyer as some wonderful guy or say that they are all great, salt-of-the-earth people,” he said.

The “Johns’ Voice” project showed that between one and two percent of clients have been brutally violent toward a sex worker. Those are the people the law must address, according to Atchison.

Jody Salerno, a former sex worker and the director of women’s services for the B.C./Yukon Society of Transition Houses, told the audience that the men who paid her for sex were not criminals or violent. “They wanted to share my time and have consensual sex,” she said. “If men who pay for sex are criminalized, sex workers are unsafe.”

She emphasized that anyone—including sex workers—who commits acts of violence against women, children, youth, or men should be arrested and prosecuted. “When sex workers are victims of criminal acts, treat them with dignity and respect,” Salerno said.

Toronto author and investigative journalist Victor Malarek, a staunch critic of legalizing the sex trade, told the Straight in an interview earlier this year that about 90 percent of prostitutes worldwide are not doing this work by choice. “Rather than deal with the drugs, the mental-health issues, the physical-health issues, what led these women away from their reserves and put them on the streets, the only thing these bozos [proponents of legalization] can come up with is to keep them in something they never wanted in their lives in the first place,” Malarek said.

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Kimberly
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I guess I will tell my friend who is testifying today that the man she is testifying against simply wanted a connection and meaningful relationship with her when he raped, robbed, threatened to kill her and robbed her. Oh, I will let the other three women that he raped, robbed, threatened to kill and robbed that he simply wanted a safe and respectful relationship. I don't know how the statistics can show that only 2% of abusers are violent (define violent because simply thinking that someone's body is available for purchase seems violent to me) when there is not a sexually exploited woman out there who hasn't been beaten or assaulted on multiple occasions. And I don't understand how any violence is okay and why we are not talking about providing choices and opportunities for women not to sell themselves to survive.
 
Retired
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I find this article to resonate with my own experience. While there is a degree of drooling frat boys out there wanting the thrill of a paid-for-fuck there are also plenty of men who want something uncomplicated, plesent and relaxing.

I have ambivilant feelings about my expierence. But, very little of the negative comes from anything to do with the Johns themselves. It comes from the opinions from other people, the stigma placed on me for my choice, and other such socially negative views. That's what's bothered me, rarely the actual job.

I've met Sue, she's a great gal, and I totally support her journey and goals. While I may be retired there are still johns I remember fondly. Some of whom were women. Above comment, please chill, what happened to your friend was terrible, there's no denying that. Selling one's self is a choice, and you do it too. Any skill, trade, or whatever that you are paid for is 'selling yourself' I hope your friend heals, and I hope the wounds inflicted on her friends and family can heal in time.
 
Hazabit
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While violence against women is ALWAYS unpardonable, the question is whether violence against women would in any way be affected by criminalizing or decriminalizing prostitution. Kimberly means well, but I worry that she's an idealist.

Prostitution is driven strictly by laws of supply and demand. Simply put, women willing to have sex are in short supply. Theoretically, it would be possible to eliminate all prostitution and I think all violence against women, but collectively women don't want to do what that would take--increasing the supply of sex.

So we're left with a not very good option: paid sex work. Instead of blaming men for wanting what they're biologically programmed to want, or suggesting yet again that we need to find better professional opportunities for women, (note that women consistently outperform men academically) why not try to find ways of making sex more fun, pleasant and available for both sexes?
 
Martin
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Is anyone surprised that promoters of brothels would speak kindly of johns and present them with a flattering portrait of themselves, the very one they get for a price in the prostitution sham of a relationship?
The sex industry and its libertarian shills have been promoting myths about sexual exploitation for centuries. And now they are getting very worried because a growing number of legislatures are recognizing what women (and men) have known for a long time, i.e. that prostitution doesn't correspond to that rosy view, that most of women and youths driven to it are being hurt bad and kept there by poverty, addiction, male psychological and physical violence, early sexual abuse, loss of self-confidence, and other unpleasant realities that somehow don't make ther way into puff pieces like this one.
May I recommend a new NFB film by Helene Choquette, Avenue Zero, that premiered at a Montreal documentary film festival two weeks ago? Its strongest scenes were shot in Vancouver with a survivor of Robert Pickton's brothel.
I predict that Ms. Davis and her well-heeled bosses and patrons won't like this film one bit... Truth and prostitution rarely go hand in hand.
 
stunned at the denial.
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So, who is raping, beating and abusing the women I see night after night in my job? I guess all women/men/trans must be being abused by the same attacker.
When women are in an abusive relationship she will often overlook the abuse and talk about how great he is, how misunderstood he is how no one is able to see him like she does for she sees an "amazing" side of him others don't sounds to me like that is what is going on here.
Do these people really expect society to believe that we are to "trust" the men who took part in this survey?!
I hope society is smarter than that.
 
legalize it...full stop!
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It will evenutually and should be, there is little time for idealistic arguments to be made, have to look at reality. Besides government can tax it ...they like to tax stuff...there are no doubt extremes and likely always will be, but through regulation the safety would increase for all.

I know there is no simple answer, but certainly starting with the full legalization process, we could have our own redlight district, those that pimps, or importing women for this...those ones I am sure we can use the saved resources and nail them to the wall, along with the drug dealers that prey on the women and children.
 
Angie
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Seems like Chris Atchison forgot to note some facts about self reporting studies. It is well known, and well documented, that people fail, in the majority, to self-report anything of a defamatory nature about themselves.

We always want to see ourselves in a positive light, those in social sciences know that people judge themselves based upon what they are going to do, rather than upon what they have done.

It is disturbing that some men think that paying for sex is having a relationship...but then perhaps they have relationships with their car, boat, or leaf blower too. It is sad to see that some live such a shallow existence where their life is focused below their waist.

 
Ed-words
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Is a masseuse "selling herself" if her hands start to "roam"?

How many legalization critics are religiholics?

"Escorts" advertise all over the internet all over the world.
They're not going away and most enjoy the life style
it affords them.
 
Sarah M
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While research says that the top reason johns buy sex is because they "seek companionship," this does NOT explain the prevalence of male violence against women in the sex trade - neither is "loneliness" a justification. Why would there be so much abuse and rape in prostitution if if was all about companionship with a women? Give me a break.

I urge people like Ms. Davis who thinks the sex trade can be a safe and respectable industry to seriously reconsider. I'm not even talking about morals and whether it's "right" to sell your body. There is NO way the sex industry can ever be entirely safe for women, and there is certainly no way it could ever demonstrate any ounce of respect for the individuals involved.

In a paper on the legalized sex trade in Nevada, women felt they had to treat themselves as victims in order to increase their feelings of safety. In addition, prostitutes are subject to incredibly demeaning and invasive STI testing, which is routine. Of course, there is very little talk of screening johns. After all, it's all about the customer, isn't it?

Now, we all must as ourselves: is this an occupation that respects and empowers women as individuals? Will it ever be safe and healthy, physically and psychologically? Let's quit kidding ourselves.
 
J~T
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So Angie, you think that because these women exchange money for their time that they are a comodity akin to a boat or a car? Nice.
Newsflash! SPs are actual flesh and blood people with emotions and everything... and so are the men who see them, friendships can develop under said conditions.

You must be pretty good looking not to understand loneliness, given your winning personality.
 
Speedo
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Consensual anything always seems to be resonable enough in theory. But there's a girl who stands on Kingsway a block away from my house that I see every damn day and having spoken with her in passing, I wonder what kind of guy wants an emotionally-abused, uneducated and drug-addicted teenager for "companionship." She's so messed up she can barely talk. I can't imagine the kind of guy who would rather have sex with her than his own wife, or rather, I don't want to imagine him. Neither of these people is rationally exchanging money and services. Something else is happening. And enabling it to continue is no one's best interest.
 
U/K Male
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Human beings are not and must never be for sale or rent. For people in positions of power whether physical or financial to prey upon vulnerable boys and girls is wrong in every sense of the word. The average prostitute "turns out" around age 13. So what part of pedophilia are we so ok with that we want to legalize it? Oh I'm sure the participants in the study were not looking for young, fresh, females and males to have sex with. We can do better as a society but making it ok for pimps and madams to ruin young lives isn't better.
 
News Flash U/K Male
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Our entire economic structure is based on selling our selves, that is how you and I sustain ourselves. There is no simple answer here, but by legalising this would protect the vast majority of people who engage in this activity.

The state would not have to waste money on this aspect of the trade. Which means they can then focus their scarce resources on the issues you raise as well go after the others that make their livelyhood off the most vulnerable people you indicated.

There are no simple answers here, but certainly focussing their attention on the most vulnerable is both practical and likely to assist those who need it most.
 
Ubbelievable
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We need to look to our sisters & children in the Philippines, Thailand, Mexico, Africa, look at his in a global context.. as well as aboriginal children and women here in Canada that suffer the brutal effects of men being allowed to by sex.
It is countries like Canada, the US so called industrialized nations that we MUST stop this plague. Why do we think it is /or will be so hard to require men to learn to control their sexual urges. Most men I know support the law that criminalizes the buying. Men truly want to be known for more than their perceived lack of ability to control their orgasms.
And to this statement I call bullshit
"“I think that clients are our biggest resource in trying to combat exploitation, trafficking, and exploitation of youth within the sex industry,”
How many men use trafficked women right now in "legal" brothels in Europe? It is men who want to buy children that will find the children for sale, do you really think they will report themselves?
Do you think an intimidated women who is brainwashed will tell the man raping her she is trafficked?
Do you think johns looking to pay to torture an unwilling victim will report he thinks she is there against here will.
This argument is getting more and more unbelievable. It's interesting to watch how excited these people are over this report as if it proves something, I think for the average person they can see straight through it and it truly nauseates the masses.
 
cameronjamesmarthur@live.co.uk
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it is typical of controlling scumbags to make sex and drugs illegal.here in britain we had a mass murder of prostitutes paying for a drug habit that were it not for the billions we waste on a corrupt criminal justice system,would cost only pennies,not the 10 blowjobs a day they were forced into.so you see they were really murdered by our ruling class. and it is worth remembering the payment is not for the sex....it is for leaving afterwards. regards cam
 
Andy Sorfleet
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I don't know. I was a prostitute for 11 years. Best job I ever had. Yes, lots of my clients were great people. Some were lonely. Some were even sexy. Pretty near all of them were pretty respectful overall. Where I experienced lack of respect and outright social exclusion, were from people like some of those who have been posting comments here. Just my personal experience.
 
Wisdom
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Can we really believe those who are involved in prostitution to give a fair representation of it?
Can we believe those who are to 'self disclose' if they would ever hurt a prostitute?
Shouldn't we be looking at other things to find if men would harm prostitutes like police reports, hospital reports. Talk to front line workers. .
Maybe we should also ask the wives and children of these john's if they minded the family money being spent on a prostitute,we should ask the partners and families of these men what they think.. Or don't they have a say as well?
 
mikey
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The violent johns are just the men that can't get a wife to put up with their behavior.
If prostitution was banned, do you think they will disappear like a little puff of smoke?
 
Reality
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Can anybody please inform what nation in all of human history has stopped prostitution? Are we imposing idealism over reality here? We do not need to research this to death, that has already been done, the question is when are we going to legalize it and focus on those most vulnerable to these predators?
 
Iamcuriousblue
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It seems that once again whenever an article is published, the anti-prostitution lobby shows up in force trotting out their half-baked statistics and black-and-white generalizations about prostitution. All prostitutes are, according to this way of thinking, "turned out at age 13", come from backgrounds of sexual abuse, and are so poor that they have no choice in what they do. According to this mindset, the most marginalized prostitutes are *all* prostitutes, and therefore all johns are by definition rapists, sexual abusers, and pedophiles. What is lost in this campaign of demonization is that such a such a view of sex workers is a gross overgeneralization, that it is backed up by shoddy statistics derived from "researchers" with an agenda, that prostitution exists across a range of social classes, and that men seek out prostitutes for a variety of reasons, most of them not abusive.
 
Bill
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Prostitute vs Escort.

One, the image is of a woman in a very skimpy outfit standing on the street fishing for a taker. The other, you'd never know it. Both are in the same industry.

The right and self righteous likes to broadly paint the entire industry with the unwholesome image of the street walker with all the worst traits. Yet the news reported Denver prostitutes looked most forward to the republican convention not too long ago. So much for politicians from the right spouting family values.

It's time to address the underlying causes of violence. Snuffing out the outlets that get abused by such individuals will only move it elsewhere.
 
picklejuice
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I am an escort and I happen to love my job. The majority of my clients are either lonely men or men whose wives no longer want to have sex. Should a man really have to go witthout if he still has sex drive after his wife goes through menopause? Should we really criminalize a man for wanting NSA sex and offering a woman hard earned money for it? Isn't it better for a man to pay for sex and go home to his wife a happy, satisfied man than it is for him to simply cheat on her?

Some people would say he should do neither but is it possible to just turn off your sex drive for the rest of your life and be happy? NO. Would any of us be truly happy if we had to masturbate for the rest of our lives? NO.

The crime isn't prostitution, it's how we go about it. The women on the streets are the ones being abused and I think that if they had a safe and clean place to do it, that these crimes would be less frequent and severe. We can't change the fact that people need sex and quite frankly they should be able to get it if they want it.
 
Is only a matter of time
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We can not afford not to legalize prostitution.We are strapped for money and other demands to pay for like healthcare and education, and even there we are failing, democracy rules especially when the economics support it, just watch.
 
Dal
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"Seems like Chris Atchison forgot to note some facts about self reporting studies. It is well known, and well documented, that people fail, in the majority, to self-report anything of a defamatory nature about themselves".

Actually, this does not "seem" like Atchison forgot anything. This is an article, do you really expect all his research to include everything? An article sums up major points. Perhaps if you read more than an article and read other research, including his own, you would be better educated.
 
sama
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This is such a controversial subject, and there are so many biases and agendas that it's really difficult to know whose information to trust. I'd be interested in comparing the results of studies that analyse the effects of a range of policies (legalization, delegalization, criminalization of Johns) to see which benefit and which harm prostitutes.

I would also be interested in hearing more from actual prostitutes to learn what their experiences with the law and with Johns has been. One thing that people tend to forget is that not all sex workers are street walkers. Of all sex workers, street walkers tend to work in the most dangerous and exploitative conditions, and it can be challenging for them to stay safe since they are often targetted by sexual predators.

However, a lesbian friend of mine used to organize private erotic shows for members of the lesbian community in Vancouver. She didn't sell sex, was never abused, made great money and loved the creative aspects of her job. Is ALL sex work inherently degrading and exploitative? I don't think so.
 
GeorgeNotBush
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The most controlling people seem to be those most wanting to stamp out prostitution -- and the rhetorical tool most commonly used is demonisation of the customers and the supplier, who for the most part are ordinary human beings either trying to make a living or needing sexual relief, that is otherwise unavailable in their current life situation.

According to the demonisers, the suppliers are all strung out crackheads and the customers are all Robert Picktons.

So who, pray tell, is going to take that strung-out crackhead under their wing and provide such people with effective rehabilitation and decent accommodation and meals. These people have seen the welfare system and have found it inadequate for their needs.

Such people thankfully are rare, but we should never forget that the current legal climate is a perfect habitat for them.
 
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