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UBC student union president faces calls for resignation over United Nations complaint

A complaint to the United Nations has student councillors calling for Alma Mater Society president Blake Frederick to resign.

The president of a student union at the University of British Columbia is facing calls for his resignation after he filed a complaint to the United Nations on behalf of the organization.

Blake Frederick announced yesterday (November 26) that the Alma Mater Society is asking the Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights to appoint an independent expert or special rapporteur to investigate human-rights violations in Canada’s postsecondary education system.

Tomorrow evening (November 28), the AMS student council will consider motions urging Frederick and vice president Tim Chu to step down, as well as a third motion that would rescind the complaint.

Matthew Naylor, an arts representative on the council and a former AMS vice president, told the Straight today (November 27) that he only found out about the complaint yesterday after the student union sent out a press release and Frederick held a press conference.

“What council’s more upset about, I think, is not only is this complaint ill-advised, it has also been done in a way that pulled the wool over council’s eyes, that deliberately concealed this action from council, and has proved to be immensely embarrassing for the organization that they sit on the board of and ostensibly have some control over,” Naylor, a political-science student, said by phone.

According to Naylor, the complaint has garnered an “overwhelmingly unfavourable” response from his fellow students and councillors.

He said he plans to vote in favour of all three motions at tomorrow’s meeting.

If Frederick and Chu, who were both involved in bringing the complaint forward, don’t resign, the council will serve them with a notice of impeachment, which would be followed by a hearing in seven days, Naylor said.

The November 25 complaint—submitted along with former AMS vice president Tristan Markle, and with the help of the law firm Pivot Legal LLP—argues that Canada is violating the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights, which it signed in 1976, by not ensuring postsecondary education is accessible to all.

Naylor maintained that not only is the complaint a waste of students’ money, but it’s also a waste of time for an international body that deals with the “most egregious” of human-rights violations.

“Yes, I acknowledge that Canada ratified this treaty or this commitment,” Naylor said. “But that doesn’t mean that tuition has to go down right away. There are different ways to approach it. And I think that, for a number of reasons, this could be deemed completely invalid and will have proven to be a total waste of money.”

Frederick told the Straight today that he called tomorrow’s emergency meeting, in accordance with the student union’s rules, after receiving a petition signed by councillors.

Speaking by phone, he wouldn’t say whether or not he will show up to the meeting, which will start at 5 p.m. in Room 206 of the Student Union Building.

“I know that council does have some questions over process, and I look forward to answering them when I can address council in a public forum,” Frederick said. “But I think the real issue here is that students are struggling with their debt, and they need to see some real action from their student union.”

Asked whether he thought he will still be president of the AMS in a month or two, Frederick replied that it was “premature to speculate” before he meets with the council.

“I have heard some frustrations from students,” Frederick said. “But I’ve also received an outpouring of support from students who believe very strongly that the government is not doing enough to make postsecondary education affordable for them.”

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Sue Stroud
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Bravo to Blake Frederick the Student Union President for doing this. It's about time more Canadians started taking action. All around us our democratic egalitarian society is being eroded. The longer we stand and wait the worse the damage will be. Thank you Blake!
 
MattU
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Blake, you failed to act in a transparent and accountable manner. you failed to consult council, and the student body-at-large, before filing this complaint. you had neither the support or the approval of the AMS Council for this action. without authorization for such drastic measure, you have circumvented those you claim to represent, and have lost the right to call your power legitimate. As far as I am concerned, without support, approval, accountability, visibility, or legitimacy, you have filed this compliant on your behalf, as well as Mr. Markle's, NOT on behalf of the UBC Student body, or on behalf of post-secondary students in general.
 
Duncan, a Cartographist
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Good job, Blake and Tristan. You have already accomplished more than most AMS executives. I lived with one and he never got up before 1 PM, bless his heart. To preach a modest pace on these issues, as Mr. Naylor seems to, almost insures that nothing will get done in what is a 1-year-term position. Perhaps some people are jealous that they weren't as ballsy when they had a chance. And that is why they are still playing the big- fish- in-a-small-pond game 3 years on as they beef up their resumes for a career in the great Canadian partisan power play. Bring out the big guns! Bravo.
 
message to students
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If your process allows your elected officials to be impeached for standing up for students...look out, you could be next, this looks really bad on UBC and sends the wrong message to all wannabe UBC students, and the rest of us who is watching.
 
Petty
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If you want to hang out your President at least do it for justifiable reason, right now as I see it he is taking an important issue and raising it to a very high level.What this shows to the outsiders that getting in to the prestigious UBC, does not necessarily gaurantee you an education...you whiners have been too spoiled by mummy and daddy, actually thats not fair, if they saw your comments they would likely withhold your allowance!
 
Janet Hudgins
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What's the problem with ÅMS? Tuition is outrageous. Not the University or the Province or the feds take steps to alleviate the pressure they created on the students they expect to anti up. People resigned to this work at jobs where they won't get paid for their work, and the Province is adamant that they never will, and go into debt for years to become the adults with the education, and god knows, the drive and energy to run this country. If all our authorities won't help what's left? The UN! Good on ya, Blake, and a pox on them what gainsay you.
 
Bruce Conway
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Well done Blake!
http://www2.ohchr.org/english/law/cescr.htm
Article 13
(c) Higher education shall be made equally accessible to all, on the basis of capacity, by every appropriate means, and in particular by the progressive introduction of free education

Canada's interpretation appears to be:

c) Higher education shall be made disproportionately available to those of superior pecuniary means and in particular by the progressive introduction of restrictive fees and laws to safeguard limited access.

 
Cal
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I can't believe people are trying to impeach this guy - he's taking a hit for the team!!! Wow, what a bunch of milk toasts. ("There are other ways of approaching this.") Oh yeah - any other avenues getting as much as attention as this?

I graduated from UBC in 1989 - undergrad tuition was still low. Thanks to others who fought for us during the 70s, we had a tuition hike freeze.

Stop acting out of fear and support this man!

 
Down with Blake
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Wow, reading these comments and the ratings you really get a sense of the Straight's readership.

If you're from outside the University, don't get tricked by Blake's radical partisan supporters. His actions were absurd and a complete embarrassment. This is why I dread paying student fees every year. Not because I'm strapped for cash, but because I know they are going to go fund junk like this. If the executive ran things with any sort of neutrality, planning or responsibility they could easily give students what they need on half the budget.
 
Hey Mattu
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back up and try and be objective, you sound like a fool, certaintly your crowd could of worked another way to take your president down, right now you hide behind your bureaucratic process to rationalize your actions.

How your lot has proceeded has made you students look bad and UBC to a degree, perhaps the great majority of UBC students will come forward and restore some dignity on behalf of UBC student society and get on with supporting your president on this very important issue.
 
B James
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I had to leave my masters studies at UBC for financial reasons alone, and have suffered from significant destructive stress and anxiety for 4 years because of that financial hardship which is ongoing due to my debt load - I started the program understanding there would be adequate financial assistance. That assistance was simply not available for my program. Any members of the AMS council or the student body have the freedom to choose to make a complaint, council members opposed do not have the right to limit that freedom.
 
Former UBC Student
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I am unclear as to where many of the people commenting on this article learned about democracy...and why they support the undermining of democratic process and institutions.

YES, tuition costs and ways of alleviating pressure on students are both important issues for many students and should be addressed. As a side note, I think the answer is not a reduction in tuition but rather a reduction in loan interest rates to below prime rates.

However as this article states, many students and many AMS board members do not think that THIS was a productive way of addressing those issues-- and it wasn't done in a proper, transparent and democratic way by the President.

An elected representative cannot take action alone without the support of his/her constituents and colleagues, regardless of the issue-- and I do not understand how anybody supportive of democracy can argue otherwise...again, regardless of the merits of the cause.
 
Stephen Hui
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This was posted at http://www2.ams.ubc.ca/index.php/ams/news/letter_to_council/:


Open Letter to Council regarding Saturday AMS Council Meeting

We are aware that Council has called a meeting on Saturday to consider whether or not to ask for our resignations. Unfortunately, neither of us will be able to attend this meeting due to prior commitments. This point was made clear to Councillors when they initially decided to call the meeting for Saturday. The two staff members who we directed to work on the complaint will also be unable to attend. We will, however, be able to address Council at our regularly scheduled meeting on Wednesday, December 2nd at 6:00 p.m. There have been many allegations flying around and many questions such as: “Why the UN?”; “What effect will such a complaint actually have?”; and “What democratic process did you follow to file the complaint?” We strongly believe that Council should withhold any discussion of disciplinary action before we are able to clarify the facts around this issue and clearly explain the motives behind the complaint.

We believe that students should be extremely concerned that some members of Council have indicated they will attempt to illegally impeach Executive members who are democratically elected by the UBC student body. Given the fractured opinions of students on this issue, we encourage those Councillors who wish to impeach us from our elected positions to initiate the proper formal and legal process by conducting a referendum.

We also find it curious that we have been targeted exclusively on this issue by some Council members. It is important to note that we raised the topic of the UN complaint several times at our Executive Committee meetings and that VP Finance, Tom Dvorak and VP Academic and University Affairs, Johannes Rebane signed the contract with Pivot Legal Society to go forward with the complaint. We believe that if any call is made for our resignations, they must be coupled with a call for the resignations of Tom Dvorak and Johannes Rebane.

We both appreciate the seriousness of the current situation and will be prepared on Wednesday to give a full account of the facts.

Signed,

Blake Frederick
President
Alma Mater Society of UBC Vancouver

and

Tim Chu
VP External
Alma Mater Society of UBC Vancouver

Posted 28 November 2009 by Communications
 
UBC Student
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Blake Frederick has been asked to resign, and if (probably when) he doesn't comply with that he deserves to be impeached.

Why should he be impeached? We could sit here and troll the internet for new forums in which to debate the tuition issue until our keyboards break, but that's not the crux of the matter here.

The main point is that Blake KNOWINGLY acted contrary to the desires of the constituents that elected him. Had he consulted ANYBODY regarding this complaint he would have quickly found out just how opposed students are to this move. But he knew that, so he decided to go behind the students' backs and do this without telling anybody. When a person is elected to an office it is their job to represent the population that elected them to the best of their ability. Not only has Blake proved unable to do that but he has shown that he is willing to go to great lengths to abuse the power he has been given to achieve his own personal goals.

Again, what has been debated here so far is whether or not students SHOULD want this to happen (and I view this as a valid debate!). However, the fact is that right now they DON'T. Blake knew that but he did this anyway. That is why he should be impeached.
 
Dan
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The controversy is less about Blake and Tim's action and more about the WAY in which they pursued it. That they did not act transparently, reporting to Council, with the advice and input of the appropriate committees, or even by informing the student PRIOR TO the fact is not advocating student interests, it's undermining them. This was NOT one unified student body represented by Blake and Tim supporting this letter. It's not even a fractured student body supporting it. It's two men that thought it was a great idea but, knowing that there would be no way they would gather enough support for it, chose to simply circumvent the democratic process. They thought that they were right and were willing to act on their belief regardless of the consequences. This type of audacity might be commendable in the private citizen, but when you are in effect speaking in the name of 40,000 individuals, one cannot simply shut his ears to the opposition nor the process that goes into establishing a cohesive position. These have a name in English: They are called Father Knows Best tactics. And they are the slippery slope towards authoritarianism.

It's also worth noting that the "outpouring of student support" for Blake is rivaled if not exceeded by his opposition. This man is not a martyr for student ideals. He is not being crucified by crooked despots. On the contrary, it is he that has acted corruptly, and this the system lashing back against him.
 
Arielle F
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It's great to see someone finally taking a stand on this issue. The BC government has been hiking tuition like crazy the past few years, to "make up" for all the years that it was frozen. Blake and Tim are standing up not only for the many students who are plunged into decades of student debt, but also for all the deserving people who could not attend university at all due to financial reasons.

It's beyond petty that those AMS counselors are taking about being embarrassed by this... kinda shows what they're priorities are. They should be ashamed for being so bitterly against something so vitally important.
 
Alma Mater
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the student union has always comprised petty little minds wanting so desperately to exercise powers in the hopes that they might look like revolutionaries ("such a courageous soul taking on the mighty institution" wah wah). Don't be mistaken, it's nothing more than an attempt to self-brand their nascent little selves and unfortunately, the rest of the students get caught up in their bee-ess.
The remedy? Spankings. I suggest that Alumni have the right to put these brats over our collective knee and spank the self-righteousness out of them. Then perhaps they won't continue this conduct later on at the Legislature.
 
International Alma Marter
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In Canada any citizen or permanent resident at the national level can study at world class universities at a cost of 4000$ to 5000$ a year. I don't think any other country in the world has 5 top 100 universities (Mcgill, UBC, U of T, Queens, York) at that price range. I paid 20 K a year (which was still cheaper than the states or the UK) to get that level of education in you country and your complaining about accessibility of schools?

Continental Europe has cheaper universities, but lacks research funding at the graduate level and also has less accessibility because students are prevented to go to university at all based off secondary or even primary education placement. In 3rd world countries such as India or Bangladesh, lack of available space in universities causes students not even to have the flexibility to choose or change their major. This was both a foolish complaint, no one with any knowledge of higher education across countries is going to take it seriously. It is also an insult to those of us who understand the value of our alma mater.
 
Jason WhoCares
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If someone is elected on a campaign to lobby for lower tuition and tries to do just that, how is it undemocratic? The bulk of council is simply afraid to challenge their superiors for fear of losing access to it's ranks. Sad stuff to hide behind bureacracy and defend the status quo against FREE & ACCESSIBLE education for all.
 
Joey
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Finally an AMS president with balls. Council at this student societies are there mostly to show off, pick up partners, and don't do much else.
The interesting thing is some of the commentators have no idea about the economic stress students are under and they don't care.
How petty of Naylor and his supporters!
 
James
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What people are not seeing yet is a very important pattern:

The most recent ridiculous decision made by the AMS council (before the retraction from the UN complaint) was the DENIAL given to students with disabilities to have a NON-VOTING seat on council! This goes directly against AMS policies surrounding inclusion.

It will not be hard to demonstrate that council has been taken over by self-selected Liberal students who are doing personal politics. The Ubyssey reported that the students with disabilities left screaming 'shame on you' and crying. This is the type of AMS council we have - taken over by people who elect themselves year after year and do not let anyone who is not aligned with their party politics have a say or get anything done.

I am willing to bet my degree that, if we take the list of people who voted for Blake's resignation and the shameful and cowardly retraction of the UN complaint, and compare it with the people who voted against having a NON-VOTING seat held by students with disabilities at the AMS, we will have an almost perfect name-by-name match. And yet, nobody has yet raised any concerns about how shameful was this decision of the Council. People who voted for that refusal are acting against AMS' s own policies, and should be liable for it. Now, what is worse: putting students with disabilities down or calling the government responsible for their failings (no matter how pro-government you might be, Liberals, the facts are clear = they have not followed something they have signed on to do). Another pattern emerges, the cowardly double standard applied to Dvorak and Rebane, who are forgiven for signing off, and who have retracted in fear from the bold UN complaint. So, no mater what you do, as long as Naylor is in council, if you don't conform to the Liberal party line, you will be crucified - unless, of course, something ELSE happens - can't wait to see it.
 
PaulB
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I'm not entirely sure what the situation is in B.C., but here in Ontario, a University education is more than accessible. There are numerous scholarships and grants of enormous value intended for students that have demonstrated high academic success, but who also have a financial need. There are numerous more grants based solely on financial need. Finally, the Ontario government offers an interest-free loan program who those whose parents aren't wealthy.

$27'000 is pickles when your in your future career you'll earn $44 000 per year (the median income of people with a university degree, according to a 2001 report by Statistics Canada)..
 
Michael L
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James... actually, the resolution to ask Blake to resign was UNANIMOUS.

Did every single councillor vote against the students-with-disabilites-seat? If that was the case, I feel like you would have mentioned it.

So it is true that every councillor who voted against a disabilities seat voted against Blake.

It is ALSO true that every councillor who voted FOR a disabilities seat voted against Blake.

Can I have you degree now?
 
Clarke
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James - you know what, you're right. I went to the AMS the other day and asked for a non-voting seat and didn't get one. Those excluding jerks!

Deciding to not give disabled students a non-voting seat isn't about disabled students at all. The question is, if we start handing out non-voting seats, where does it stop? You could easily argue that all kinds of groups of students deserve to have representation. That is obviously an unsustainable and infeasible way to run such a council.
 
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