Canadian nationalism could have bad consequences after Olympics, prof says

Vancouver has been dipped in a coat of red and white. It’s national pride on a scale the city has never experienced.

But while the 2010 Winter Olympic Games have successfully translated nationalism into a city-wide party, there are potential problems with fostering such a collective identity, a professor of social psychology has warned.

“We all feel needs to connect with others and one of the ways that we do that is feeling part of a larger group,” explained Michael Schmitt. “I think that you can certainly see examples of that with the Olympics, with people feeling a sense of national pride.”

A positive outcome of that phenomenon can be observed in the relatively peaceful crowds that have packed Granville Street and the downtown core, Schmitt said from his office at Simon Fraser University. The city’s bars and nightclubs have kept the party going during the Olympics, but alcohol-related violence has not been widespread.

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On the other hand, the same feelings of national pride that might prompt a person to pick a piece of trash up off the street can be used by bodies of authority for specific political ends.

“Think about a lot of the identities involved around the Olympics,” Schmitt said. “There is certainly lots of indoctrination and socialization that begins when we’re very young, encouraging us to feel a sense of national pride and even pledging an allegiance to that identity. And most information that we usually tend to get comes from within a nation, and is often biased in a way to make us continue to feel positive about that identity.”

He continued, “The same kinds of national pride that we might see around the Olympics can be used to help to create justification and support for military endeavours in other states. That, in some ways, is the potentially more dangerous side of what otherwise seems pretty harmless: that these identities do get used to fulfill particular political ends.”

According to Schmitt, organizations like the International Olympic Committee and Vanoc have been able to strongly associate themselves with notions of international peace. He argued that that has made even controversial initiatives very difficult for people to question.

“In many ways, a sense of pride or attachment to Vancouver and B.C. was used to convince a lot of people that the Olympics was actually going to be a good thing for the people of Vancouver and the people of B.C.,” Schmitt said. “And I’m actually pretty convinced that the opposite is true.”


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Comments

Ethan
What a garbage article. We had the olympics before in calgary and montreal, we didn't go bomb other countries afterwards in the name of canadian pride.
 
Pat
The message of this article won't sit well with many people while we are still reveling in the Olympics, cheering for our athletes, and enjoying the party here in Vancouver. But it will be more palatable when the emotions of the games die away. Blind patriotism and flag waving and a feeling that our country is superior to others is never a good thing (except at the Olympics).
 
Chris C.
yeah, and those Olympic games were a whole different story, different time, place, different circumstances, different reality, different, period. Wake up Mr. Ethan.

Twenty two years have passed and a whole lot has changed. Oh if you want to compare, go back to the 1936 Olympic games.

Calgary rode on the backs of volunteers mostly. Whereas Vancouver is a corporate marketing scheme to the hilt. if that isn't enough to convince you of there being differences, I don't know what would be.
 
C. Hawk
Ethan - We weren't at war during the Calgary and Montreal Olympics, we are now. People waving flags on the street and singing O Canada probably won't lead to some dangerous thing, but I wonder if the fact that we are currently at war makes any difference to the way people perceive the national pride from the Olympics.
 
Proud Canadian
I find it really disappointing that people automatically refer to any kind of patriotism as "blind". In our vast, disparate, and multicultural nation, we don't have too many things to bring us together and foster a sense of wider community. I honestly think that this is important in building a more civil, compassionate society. Being patriotic doesn't mean you feel superior to other countries. I'm proud to be Canadian, but that doesn't translate to any sense of superiority over other countries. I think the same holds for most people. It's a much more positive and constructive emotion than the alienation that many groups feel in this country.
 
emil
What a negative nelly peice. Michael enjoy what is going on...or better yet put a wet towel over your head and go back to your Ivory tower in Simon Fraser where likely most of your cronies agree with you
 
eddy
This is the idea of an Educated University Prof: I only hope my, or any portion of my tax dollars are not going into his salary. These Olympics more than any other event have done more to create a sense of unity and purpose and pride in being a Canadian, plus collectively standing up and saying it to the world. In that respect the Games are worth it. It shows the experiment of multiculturalism does have a chance of working. The struggle to achieve that is not over, but there is hope. As to the Prof: if you cannot share the pride, go spew out your misguided theories to someone who cares.
 
Gabriel
The last sentences of the article, quoted from Schmitt, left me waiting for evidence that never came. Why is he convinced that the Olympics will be bad for Vancouver and BC? Who knows, he doesn't say.
 
Strategis
The loyalty and pride that Canadians are being indoctrinated to feel for Canadian Olympic athletes, in a socialisation campaign that would cost hundreds of millions of dollars to purchase on the open market, can and will almost certainly be transfered by the government, corporations, armed forces, police and military - acting in a conscious, coordinated, strategic marketing campaign - into feelings of loyalty and pride for Canadian troops and intelligence agents as they follow government orders to participate in unpopular, counterproductive, and often extremely illegal activities around the globe.
Sports are in many ways just a tool of distraction and manipulation of public feelings and perceptions to further the elaborate long term agenda of the military industrial financial complex that controls pretty much all important sectors of society.
 
Birdy
@C. Hawk
The "war" in Afghanistan was not started by patriotic hockey fans. We're also not at war with the country; we're there to throw away money building schools for them while we close the ones in Canada. Really we're there to build infrastructure for a massive network of oil pipelines and drive around in pointless patrol circles while being attacked by insurgents using weapons the Americans sold to them during the Soviet–Afghan war.
 
worried
While this uncharacteristic Canadian 'nationalism' cannot definitively be linked to any government or political party, it makes me as uncomfortable as those accusations that anyone who dared to question the implications of the Afghan detainee abuse issue were attacking our Canadian troops in Afghanistan. When circumstances and issues are manipulated in such a way as to make them appear black or white, right or wrong, and encourage citizens to support a point of view by making any other point of view appear to be unpatriotic or immoral, we lose our freedom to come to our own conclusions.

 
Gabriel
Schmitt doesn't offer a single piece of evidence for believing that the Olympics will be bad for Vancouver and BC.
 
danny sernesky
WOW! I read about 6 comments before I couldnt take it any more.Its so sad what has become of the citizens so quick to defend a system so far out of control and so far removed from its people.Scary! Blind sheep! .Beam me up scotty!
 
Jamie
What a terrible article. It is a HUGE leap to make when you say that displaying pride in our country will lead Canada into becoming a militant nation. Canada is the product of ALL of our values, a collection of ideas and values that may sometimes oppose each other, yet remain in a mostly positive and peaceful balance. The fact that we have created this country out of nothing (warts and all) should be celebrated. Having pride in something is not inherantly a bad thing.

Furthermore, people are generally not as stupid as you seem to think they are. People CAN tell the difference between acceptable and positive expressions of nationalism and destructive forms of it. As for biases within our national understanding, I'm guessing it's been a while since you've attended some sort of public educational institution. When we learn about the settlement of Canada, we learn about the mistreatment of indiginous populations such as unfair treaties, residential schools, head taxes, etc. When we learn about WW2, we also learn about Japanese internment. When we learn about the evolution of our political traditions, we learn how race and sex determined who was allow to participate within these traditions. There is nothing wrong in collectively showing pride in something we all have contributed to in one way or another. What the Olympics have done is create a possitive common narrative that can be shared by all Canadians, regardless of how someone identifies themself.
 
Franz
This is the first time I've seen outright displays of patriotism in a long time in Canada...why is this guy so down on it? He doesn't explain his point very well or concisely.
 
will
pride has and will always be known as a sin by any value set whether religious or atheist. People should associate themselves with other humans as a whole around the globe and not relate themselves to artificial boundaries set by political motives.
 
Graham
Patriotism and Nationalism should be things of the past. They have both caused more wars and deaths than any war based on economics.

What we are seeing during these Olympics is the birth of the Militarization of North America.

Does anyone actually believe that all these CCTV cameras and rentacop security guards will disappear after the games?
 
Lynette
I just simply took the article as a 'stay-awake' call for later. Too many people think things are generally better, safer and fairer now than they used to be. Many of the rights and protections our parents and grandparents suffered and fought companies and governments for over the years have been dismantled in the last 15-20 years. Shame on us for not noticing them disappear! Or if we did, not demanding accountability. It just keeps getting worse. I don't think the article ridicules anyone enjoying a good show. I think it is saying stay conscious, don't follow along blindly just because of a pronouncement of success. People have been paying the price for a long time, are still suffering, and things won't get any better unless we listen carefully, question, then decide for ourselves -what is true, what is not, and what has to be done.
 
cbb6
I think people are overthinking this. Canada has never been known to be an aggressive country, and just because we are proud of our nation, just like any other time not just the Olympics, doesn't mean we will go bomb other countries in a war. There is no fine line between Olympic games and a war that is currently going on. They are two different things completely and I believe there is no way something like the Olympics can completely change a nation's history of 100+ years. I do not agree at all with this article.
 
Mary
What does this pride of being Canadian mean? I'm proud of Canada re gay rights, multiculturalism etc. But I'm deeply ashamed of being Canadian re our environmental record, our involvement in the torture of Afhan detainees and the immoral "war on terror". The trouble with the Olympics is that it encourages people to support Canada without any thinking going on. What are people proud of Canada for???
 
Daniel Paul
All you children are poor unfortunate victims of systems beyond your control.A plague upon your ignorance and the gray despair of your ugly life.All your children are poor unfortunate victims of lies you belive.A plague upon your ignorance that keeps the young from the truth they deserve. (Zappa)From: Whats the ugliest part of your body
 
Strategis
I think we're supposed to be proud of Canada because we are so wealthy and hospitable that we elected to throw a multi billion dollar party for the few wealthy people who could afford to come to participate in it, along with all the viewers glued to their corporate sponsored TV screens around the world. And we're supposed to be proud of those select aspects of our diverse and many splendored and splintered national culture which were glossed up in the Opening Ceremony. And we're supposed to be proud that Canada, a nation of tens of millions, was able to find and support a few athletes that could rise to the top in their sports events.
Because of the aforementioned causes of national pride, that seem to be pretty lacking in substance to me, and more in the nature of corporate marketing than genuine causes of national pride, we are then supposed to be proud, by extension, of all the government and Canadian corporation travesties of justice, neglect of care for large segments of our population, ever increasing concentration of wealth and power in the hands of a tiny elite, progressive internal militarisation, our ongoing yet hidden external aggressiveness and ever deepening alignment and integration with U.S. foreign and domestic policies - ultra violent and rapacious policies which are nearly universally hated and feared around the world.
 
Jamie
Mary,

Are you serious? You have no idea why the people of Canada are proud of their country? YOU even list 2 examples of YOUR pride in your second sentence!!! I will never understand the reasoning behind the belief that to take pride in positive accomplishments somehow threatens the moral fabric of our society. So Canadians shouldn't be proud of their country because another state tortured detainees captured by the Canadian Forces or because our environmental standards (though actually pretty high vis a vis the rest of the world) are less than the eco-ideologs in Europe? That's your reasoning??? Everything else that makes our country great should be thrown out the window? I'll tell you something. I'm "deeply ashamed" of our "human rights commissions" trampling over free speech rights and finding free people guilty of having undesirable emotions. I'm ashamed that in the name of equality, my government makes it illegal for an individual to seek out their own care when it comes to their own personal health. I'm ashamed that it's acceptable for universities and private interests to offer scholarships to students based solely on their gender and race, not on their work ethic or "content of character" (sound familiar?). Why do I bring this up? I certainly don't expect the readers of this paper to agree with any of my grievances, but that's exactly the point. In the context of our entire existence as a species, Canada today is the most humane, ethical, and responsible society not only envisioned by theorists, but actually implemented by thoughtful and caring people. The fact that we can disagree about many significant issues, while still remaining united in a respectful coexistence is something EXTREMELY rare in the overall history of our existence as a species. We should be proud of this wonderful accomplishment and we shouldn't be chastised for displaying this pride in our collective good from time to time. No one is saying that Canada is perfect, but people should be able to display pride in an overwhelmingly positive work in progress. Besides, anyone who thinks that the Olympics is going to change the core consciousness of Canadians really hasn't put the effort into understanding what being Canadian means. I guarantee that the people who hated Harper before the Olympics still do, and the people who hated Iggy and Layton still hold the same core beliefs they did three weeks ago.
 
Beth
There's a BIG difference between the joyous Canadian pride evident in the happy bonding between so many strangers and the downright ugly Canadian arrogance that's been revealing itself more and more as the Games progress. Whatever happened to the notion of being good winners? Some of the nasty, derogatory comments Canadians have been making about the athletes and teams they have 'killed' make us look like insecure goons with a mob mentality. Imagine if a Wimbledon or Masters champ crowed about 'killing' his competition and laughing about what a loser he is and how he should go home with his tail between his legs. And everyone knows damn well that if Americans were saying the things I've heard some boorish Canadians (including broadcasters) saying, people would be all over them. Pride it's not. I wish I had verbatim examples on hand to back up my comments, but you'll know what I mean if you've heard some of them.
Beth
 
Bev
The citizens of the USA, are very patriotic. Canadian citizens, are not, so very patriotic. I am sure we love our country, however, we don't like the governing officials, who are ruining Canada. I was once told by a person from Scotland, we Canadians have no pride of country. Our young people see and hear, about, the crimes of the RCMP. They know the lies Campbell and Hansen have told. They know the lies, Harper and Iggy told about the HST, from their furious parents. Our children are growing up in a country, with, politicians corruption and greed. How can any Canadian, have pride in that kind of an atmosphere. Our politicians do not do what is the best for our country, nor the best for, the citizens who live here. They watch out for number one, themselves.
 
Skippy
I wonder if he applies the same logic to gay pride. It could be used to support military incursions by the GLBT community from the west end into ...say...Maple Ridge.
 
Arachne
The patriotism flowing through the streets of Vancouver isn't based on the multicultural, peace-loving nature of Canadians; it comes naturally from the crowds, the red and white, and that we're all together having a good time. It takes guts to be the one who says "Wait a minute--there's something else going on here" when you have something very unpopular to say--but this isn't the town's Canada Day ceremony and barbecue at the beach. The Winter Olympics have the kind of promotion and marketing their sponsors Coca-Cola have. They have us convinced that it's all a big party, but many people who aren't celebrating now will be paying the bills with us long after the mascots and VANOC are gone.
 
seemingly
This isn't pride, it's just cheering for the home team. Canada is now identity-less
 
Jane Jones
Patriotism is corporate hijacking of one's natural love for one's home and native land. In keeping the children ignorant, they have been surrendered to an evil system and its true that the imposition of the Olympic infrastructure is part of the militarization of the North American societies but this talk that nationalism should be abolished is just another plank of the NWO global government dictatorship strategy.

So is the idea that indigenous people should have special rights and privileges above and beyond the rest of us when we are all being served up in the same multicultural stew. Descendants of the original peoples of Turtle Island are now being used the same way the poor little Russian proletariat was used to seize the lands and resources of Russia (and especially their yummy foreign assets.)

Telling the truth is never popular, but it's always right.
 
He Who Looks
How do we display this national pride? By spending millions of dollars on Chinese-made merchandise sold to us by an American-owned company (HBC), just because it has our flag on it. That is exactly how our nationalism is being exploited now, let alone the future. Our nationalism is being exploited by feeding it to us through hockey and beer, rather than through a pride and involvement in our unique democratic process. Our nationalism should be to Stand on Guard to protect Canada's important rights, freedoms, and prosperity... not to Sit on the Couch and watch hockey with a can of beer in our hand, just because it says Canadian on it.
 
Get a REAL job
This is a great article for the guy who loves to see his name/comments in print....(uh...kinda like those who comment) I say to the dude, stick to teaching those who are paying and supplicating your way over inflated ego just so that they can get their degrees to work in the REAL world.
 
true patriot love?
The best example of how a good Olympic idea can go wrong is with our women's hockey team.

In our drive prove ourselves as the best in the world, we have ignored helping other countries develop their women's hockey teams, and now the sport is at risk of being taken out of the games.

If Canada were truly serious about the Olympic ideals, we would add an athletic development component to our international aid programs.

Anyone in favour of sponsoring an Afghan female biathlete for the 2014 games in Sochi?
 
Carmen2009
*He Who Looks...wish I could have clicked Agree many times on your post.
 
Soctane
Can't enjoy a moment, can we?
 
tom sharon
is this website run by and read by communists? what is wrong with showing pride in the country we were born in and believe in? you people make me sick... the afghan detainee issue and global warming were invented by liberal socialist scumbags who want to seize power and control your life.get a brain people
 
Barb R
An academic wringing his hands that our youth are being indoctrinated? Now, isn't that just calling the kettle black!

Why didn't you just go ahead and say what you really wanted to say: You don't want us being so damn American.

Well, too bad for you and your fellow multi-cults. We're waving our flag and painting our faces. Too bloody bad for you. The most positive thing about the Vancouver Olympics is that it struck a blow for social engineering. And I say BRAVO to that!

 
Barb R
Mary says "I'm proud of Canada re gay rights, multiculturalism etc. But I'm deeply ashamed of being Canadian re our environmental record"

Mary, what is it about our environmental record that you are ashamed of? Did you know that Canada was only one of four countries to sign Copenhagen? No, of course you didn't know. Your master don't encourage individual thinking. Maybe they don't have your best interests at heart, Mary. You need to think and investigate on your own. Don't let Suzuki and Gore Inc. do your thinking for you.
 
True Canadian Patriot
I will not feel proud of Canada until our foreign policy and treatment of its indigenous peoples and homeless people becomes aligned with the values of its citizenry, and our international legal obligations. Illusions are causes of shame, not pride. The false veneer of commitment to peace and human rights can easily be dissolved by examining Canadian government actions and policy respecting Palestine, Lebanon, Israel, Haiti, Afghanistan, Omar Khadr, extraordinary renditions and outsourced torture, security detention certificates, the deplorable conduct of Canadian based mining companies, gov't neglect of Canadian detainees in foreign jails, Chinese government human rights abuses, support for terminator genes and GMO crops, rejection of the UN Convention on Indigenous Peoples and countless other issues. The Canadian people generally have favorable intentions, but its government is marching lockstep with the American imperialistic and Orwellian foreign and domestic policies, which are wedded to the agenda of the massive military industrial security complex and its corporate / financial partners in crime.
 
Barb R
True Patriot Love says "Anyone in favour of sponsoring an Afghan female biathlete for the 2014 games in Sochi?"

I don't think it would be possible. Would they wear their niqabs inside or outside their skin tight spandex uniforms? Why don't we worry about getting those girls to school without having acid thrown on their faces, or about giving them the freedom to move about without wearing a mobile tent and being accompanied by their jailers or husbands. I think that takes precendence over having a presence in the Olympics.
 
I Have a Job, Asshole
Get a REAL job: this seems to be a very common attack on viewpoints that don't line up with what you read in the Vancouver Sun or watch on CTV before your Friends re-runs.
Is a REAL job one that has "real" hours or a "real" cubicle, sends you home in time to watch the "real" news and the "real" network TV programs? All so that you don't have to bother to develop intelligent, critical views of the "real" world?
It's so much easier to dismiss people by confining them to an "other" group in your narrow mind (ie. lazy, crazy, communist, conspiracy theorist), than it is to open it up and realize that opinions you haven't accepted yet might have some merit. Maybe we all benefit from listening to each others' opinions instead of dismissing people because they think differently. Isn't that among the foundations of democracy?
 
ApplePie and Mom
I nominate Does It Offend You, Yeah? - We Are Rockstars as the official theme song, not that pap from Nikki Yanofsky nor Oh Canada. Please, Ugh.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf_Rv0hCF6I

Pride in your athletes is one thing, I'm all for that, but I didn't see any names written on those flags giving athletes props.

As for the over the top singing of Oh Canada from every alleyway, ask Amy Goodman why she was interrogated for 4 hours by the STASI/RCMP/CBSA at the airport whether she was going to comment on the Olympics. They gave her 48 hours to come in - give her lecture and get outta Canada. Free speech? Not likely.

Ask Chris Shaw why the Olympic terrorist 'security' detail came knocking on his door to tell him they'll be tailing him for the duration. He's an author who wrote 'Five Ring Circus: Myths and Realities of the Olympic Games'. More free speech. Right.

Keep drinking the corporate KoolAid - because IOC doesn't give a damn for your Charter of Rights, ask the Women's Ski Jump Team who were denied their rights in Canada's Supreme Court, because IOC is not encumbered by the laws of the country where they hold their corporate shill.

Ask your poet laureate, Brad Cran why he wouldn't participate either. 'Notes on a World Class City: Why I have declined to participate in the Olympic Celebrations' - http://bradcran.com/vancouver_verse/notes-on-a-world-class-city-why-i-ha...

I'll let a past Olympian, Laura Robinson explain 'A Shameful Track Record: The Olympic movement plays fast and loose with basic democratic values.' http://reviewcanada.ca/essays/2010/01/01/a-shameful-track-record/

Then ask yourself why the government cut 90% funding to your Arts & Culture because of the Olympics.

Canada can sign whatever in Copenhagen, but when you have a 50 km., tailing ocean in Alberta at the oil sands, where 1,600 ducks landed and sank to the bottom....it doesn't mean shit what you sign, actions speak louder than some front page news.
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20100301/syncrude_de...

Should I be proud that Harper is letting Canada become annexed by the USA? Not particularly. Mind that flag waving, k?
 
Seconds for Apple Pie
Good points, Apple Pie and Mom, and you barely even got started with all the anti-democratic things that this Olympics fascilitated and advanced - escalations of aggressive militarism in Afghanistan during the so-called "Olympic truce", and a system of complicity in the torture and sometimes death under torture of hundreds of detainees in Afghanistan, swept under the cover by abuse of prorogation, surveillance cameras, laws limiting freedom of expression, free speech zones - even the discussion of such absurdities undermines our democratic rights and freedoms. And the $1 billion price tag of the insane security operation for these "Orwellian Owelympics" is a giant stab in the back at reason and normalcy, and in favor of the bizarre and insidious "War on Terror".
 
Proud - of what?
The behavior of the Canadian fans of the Canadian athletes on the streets of Vancouver this past two weeks left alot to be desired. Sure - there were alot of nice, cheerful people dancing, celebrating, taking photos and giving away free hugs. Even alot of police were in the party spirit. But all the boisterous drinking, screaming "America sucks" and "Americans Go Home" and the jeering at the anti-Olympics protestors indicates that alot of Canadians don't know much about good sportsmanship, friendly competition, and democratic rights.

I think these games definitely fanned the flames of Canadian nationalism, which could be a good thing in some ways, so that Canadians feel more distinct from her neighbour to the south, and more likely to want to pursue independent policies and values, but there is a danger that nationalism can descend into agressive jingoism. Ultimately, it is up to the people, the government, and the media how this inflamed Canadian nationalism will express itself in coming days.
 
erica
well this is stupid, the olympics is just a way to keep people entertained and to try to get money there was absulotly no point in having olympics except for the fact that they want to destroy our enviorment like seriously im only 13 and im even smarter than some people who think it's so awesome to have a bunch of events that just wreck the enviorment like im fine with some events but the olympics just costs billions of dollars and make the world have like 20 times more polutions
 
Josh
In the aftermath of the Olympic and Paralympic Winter Games here in Vancouver, there is much talk about a renewed Canadian patriotism. Spontaneous bursts of O Canada in the streets, red wearing and flag waving were staples of the Games. Now that they are over, where does it leave us?

http://bit.ly/cdZoRi [To read the rest of the article]
 
Tim
Government sponsored education: indoctrination
Nationalism: pimped out bigotry

Those of us who went through public school in Canada likely remember learning about "Canadian Identity" and what makes us so different (better) than Americans. Now that I'm in the real world, I see no difference. Fuck nationalism. It's a way to keep the livestock (you and I) obedient and ignorant. We march with pathetic pride under the banner our masters have given us. Solidarity! We sneer at our southern neighbours, separated only by an imaginary line. We fight amongst ourselves instead of opening our eyes to the real crime: centralized government is fundamentally immoral. Democracy = mob rule. Statism is an ethical failure. Statism is terrorism. If you don't believe this is true in Canada, look at video footage of the G20 protests.

http://www.freedomainradio.com/
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