Photos: Protesters send off Vancouver Olympics with march during gold-medal hockey game

While many of their fellow citizens cheered on Team Canada in the gold-medal hockey game, a few hundred people took to the streets of Vancouver to protest the 2010 Winter Olympics on their closing day.

They gathered on Sunday afternoon (February 28) near B.C. Place before marching to Main and Hastings and the Olympic Tent Village in the Downtown Eastside.

Along the way, protesters heard from speakers, occupied intersections, received jeers from Olympic revelers, and honoured deceased activist Harriet Nahanee.

Here's a look at the protest, billed by organizers as "Games Over! Resistance Lives!", in pictures.

Video: Anti-Olympic protest meets opposition, honours fallen activist as Vancouver Games close

You can follow Stephen Hui on Twitter at twitter.com/stephenhui.

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Eric Doherty of GatewaySucks.org speaks out about the tar sands as the protest kicks off.



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A protester makes music with kitchen instruments at Cambie and Smithe streets.



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Bike cops form a line on Cambie Street.



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Photographers watch the police and protesters face off.



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Police stop the march from going down another street.



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An anti-capitalist.



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A critic of China and Singapore.



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Olympic revelers heckle the protesters and give them the middle finger.



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A man who swore at protesters is restrained by police.



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No One Is Illegal banner.



Comments

Why not sooner?
This reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where Kramer and Newman both want to have a millennium new years eve party, but Newman books his for New Years eve 2000, thus, being "quite lame" as Jerry put it.

Protesting the Olympics right after Canada wins gold in men's hockey, in Canada no less, seems like about the worst possible timing. I'm not saying that I disagree with their message, but consider your audience. Also there is nothing like a bunch of quasi professional protesters from Ontario to lend legitimacy to your cause: "A member of the Six Nations of the Grand River in Ontario speaks." If BC Aboriginals are upset about the Olympics being on their land, let them speak for themselves.
 
Strategis
The conscience of the few is always the driving force of true social progress. They are the soul of any nation. They are the awakening tide of living ethics - the life blood of the community. You cannot weigh their strength in numbers, or by the finery of their clothes, words and signs, but rather by the clear memory, penetrating understanding, deep love and enlightened concern that animate their spirit. They are not a homogenous group, but an eclectic and diverse band, each carrying a different yet vital aspect of this conscience, but taken together they weave a symphony of enlightened choices.
 
fred the head
oweolimpics owelimpiss audit furlong and the rest of these madoff boys and put them all in jail fo 150 years and then let them out in 100.
 
Midnight Stranger
Great photos, and to all the Georgia Straight, excellent job on the Olympics Coverage!

Looks like the Police had their hands full once again, this time keeping the protesters and the drunk hockey fans seperated.

To be fair to the drunk fans, if the protesters were making so much noise that it was drowning out the Men's Gold Medal Game, then then they had every right to be upset, and I'm sure I would have had a similar reaction.
 
homesnothighways
there were more violent olympic fans arrested last night in vancouver (22) than there were arrests of activists in the entire anti-olympic convergence.

the hate coming from some of these citizens towards the protesters at an event like this is shameful. showing their true flag-wrapped colours...
 
Kat
Hey.. so I'm 'some woman' .. :O) For everyone's information, what we were doing at Main & Hastings, Sunday, February 28 2010 was holding a Smudge Ceremony for Harriet Nahanee.

Harriet Nahanee "Tseybayot 1935 – February 24, 2007, a survivor of the residential school system, was from the Pacheedaht First Nation.

She was sentenced two weeks provincial jail at the Surrey pre-trial centre, January 2007 for criminal contempt of court for fighting to protect the Eagle Ridge Bluffs wetlands, from the Sea-to-Sky Highway expansion in preparation for the Olympics. Harriet and Betty Krawzyk set up tents and blocked the bulldozing of the Eagle Ridge bluff area .. her concern was for the animals, eagles and other animals..She was already ill with flu and asthma upon arrival but was refused treatment. Days after her release she was admitted to hospital.

On the evening of February 23, the Indigenous Action Movement held at candlelight vigil outside the hospital .. A family member helped her call us outside.. where Harriet sang us a prayer song and told us to stay strong, in her weakened voice. It was very emotional.

Doctor's tests discovered that Harriet suffered from lung cancer. She died of complications to pneumonia at St. Paul’s Hospital February 24. So obviously, during her stint in the cold jail, she was suffering.

To date there is no inquiry called into her death.

March 5th, 2010 Justice Brown will sentence Harriet's friend and comrade, Krawczyk for her fight for the Eagleridge Bluffs.

With respect,
Kat Norris
Indigenous Action Movement.. aka 'some woman' :o)
 
Stephen Hui
Thank you for your comment Kat.

I updated the photo cutline.
 
Soveran Native Woman
Im a member of the Statimc Nation and I was present and speaking about the illegal occupation of all Europeans on our land. Thank you.
 
Aaron
I'm confused, how were the Olympics to blame for Harriet Nahanee dying of the effects of lung cancer?
 
Harv
Those anti-olympic protesters are the true Canadian heros worthy of respect, admiration and fanboyism. Hockey itself is just about as much BS as the Olympics. Anyone who protests the protesters are ignorant sheeple. Sorry for your loss of an elder Pacheedaht thanks for doing everything you did to resist this circus.
 
You lose
I used to support this cause, in fact *all* of the causes you're advocating. That was until you set up tent city literally right outside my window, and witnessed your hypocrisy for myself.

You come in and set-up wherever you like, set-up security against "trespassers" as if you have more claim to the land than anyone else, and you yell at anyone taking photos to come and ask for "permission" while you do whatever you feel like. Do you expect to be taken seriously? You advocate "freedom" while refusing everyone else's right to use, live in, or enjoy the area.

You claim it's a peaceful protest, and then engage in belligerent acts like throwing cans of paint all over the road and sidewalk in front of my place, hold impromptu soccer games after midnight, beat your drums and sing about resistance, and scream at anyone and everyone who disagrees with you - all while waving video cameras in the face of police for the gross misconduct of protecting someone *else's* rights - at all hours of the morning, every morning.
Someone once said that Fascism would come disguised as Anti-Fascism, and after bearing witness to the hypocritical joke that is tent city, I see that is exactly what you are. I don't like the Olympics, I don't like Concord Pacific particularly, and I hate the Conservative government, but you're acting in exactly the same manner. So maybe it's time to stop acting like entitled crybabies, sleeping all day and partying all night and be constructive and contribute to society like the rest of us.

Oh, and I will do whatever it takes to ensure you never get what you want.
 
Aaron
What gets me about all of this, is that you can't do anything about it. Protesting the Olympics WHEN THEY'RE ALREADY HERE makes no sense and it's just a mass of Vancouver hippy/hipsters trying to get in the limelight.

Now that the Olympics are over, are you still going to protest the fact that the money has already been spent and the event is over? Just to get in the news some more.

The amount of infrastructure and money that came into and will come into the city of Vancouver is immense and in a time when the rest of the world is in a recession any money is good.
 
Pro
No one cares about any of your issues that you're protesting. You piss me off just seeing you anywhere downtown. How much is NDP paying you to protest anyways?

You really lost me when you allowed destruction of property to The Bay. If you had stepped in to stop the vandalism, you would have had many listening and may well have gained momentum for your cause(s). Your opportunity was lost forever and the fact that property damage occured in front of children and youth is disgusting.

 
Kat Norris
Yah thanks Stephen as well! I'll choose to ignore the ignorant comments as obviously they aren't educate to our reality. Which is the way of life. If they could only walk for even one day in my life, my shoes.. in my skin color.. they'll barely touch the surface of our historic trauma. This land is our land, always has been always will. It was unjustly taken from us. It has been claimed that without European influence, we would not have survived.. but in fact, it's the other way around. Our indigenous ancestors helped the white people to survive. We survive today despite, contact, genocide, loss of land, language, spirituality, .. despite reservation lands, segregation, small pox blankets, residential schools, racism.. The statements re: loss of land and way of life bear no meaning and have become cliche.. but we bear the impacts. The infrastructure as a positive reality.. is actually destruction of wetlands and natural flora and fauna in the case of the Eagle Ridge Bluffs .. which is what Harriet Nahanee and Betty stood for.. and Harriet's condition worsened because she was denied medical assistance. She may very well have survived, she very well may have not, but this does not change the fact that she ended her life suffering much more than necessary.

Any further negative comments by those who are not transparent enough to use their own names and hide behind nicknames are not worth responding to.

Kat Norris, Coast Salish, Valdez Island
Indigenous Action Movement
 
fred the head
Aaron if you had come out with a few hot coffees you might have found out that they are great canadians of all ages get a life dont send me the bill pay my part thanks.
 
buzz
Wow, another "massive" anti-olympic rally. Good thing there wasn't anything else going in town. If the police had been busy with another large crowd of people downtown on Sunday, they might not have been able to protect the protesters from the small group of people who disagree with them. Who knows, those people who don't agree with the protesters might have started smashing windows with newspaper machines and assaulting innocent citizens.
 
Aaron (from 11:35)
I posted the comment at 11:35, not sure who the Aaron is that posted at 14:35.

I just don't see it as very convincing to claim that Harriet Nahanee died because of the Olympics. From looking around at various websites and Kat Norris' post it's pretty apparent that Nahanee wasn't in the best of health before going to jail (having the flu and asthma) for 9 or 14 days (it isn't clear from the various sites that I've looked at how long she actually spent in jail). However, it isn't very apparent that she was in particularly bad health either. Despite the claimed denial of medical treatment while she was in jail, I haven't been able to find any mention of her immediately going to the hospital or a doctor's office after her release in order to obtain medical attention. In fact from all the reports I can find, she didn't head to the hospital until a week after being released from jail. So it doesn't sound like her health got much worse while she was in jail. Did she even ask for medical attention while she was in jail? What can of medical attention did she request? Did she seek out medical attention before she went to jail?

As far as the painfulness of her death goes, this may sound a bit crass, but from most accounts I've heard of people dying of cancer, it's almost never a particularly comfortable and pleasant process. From the limited information available to me, it sounds like Nahanee's death wasn't much worse than that of most other people dying of lung cancer, and it was probably a lot better than many others. Yes it sucks that she spent 9-14 days in jail during her last month alive, but it's really difficult to predict the future.

It would be a lot easier to support your cause if the claims that were being made were more believable. But saying that a 71 (72? 73?) year-old woman who had lung cancer and subsequently contracted pneumonia and died was murdered by the state is just too big a leap in logic to make without substantially more evidence.
 
True Canadian
I grew up Native in a non-native community...holding onto my identity has been tough to say the least. I don't wear rose-colored glasses as a front-line worker I have seen the dark side of human nature over and over again. But there is no where I would have rather been than in Downtown Vancouver to see the beauty of each and every person that were there celebrating the spirit of the Olympics. I seen all races wearing the colors of our flag...what a sight! As a young woman I could have never imagined that First Nations would be front and center welcoming the world to Canada. Despite historic differences, our people stepped forward and represented the true nature of our culture...respect, honor and pride. This doesn't mean we don't have obstacles and conflict. It doesn't mean we don't have people in our society who do without. It means we will continue to further our cause by showing how it's done...from a place of knowing what is right. As much as we find to overcome we must also find as much to celebrate...otherwise we are the ones that lose!
 
SJ Cook
Why would this rally be scheduled for the final day of the games, during the biggest hockey game this country has seen in decades? If the point of protest is to draw public attention to your cause, this failed beyond measure. The eyes of the world were focused on the game and the revellers, and the protest was hardly mentioned.

I have a great deal of sympathy for the protesters and their cause, but if they wanted to make headlines this march should have happened a week earlier, before the Olympics reached a fever pitch.
 
flameon
Has the nooneisillegal crowd reconciled with Soveran Native Woman and Kat Norris who feel that everyone 'else' is illegally living on 'stolen land?' just asking.

And Kat, when you have won,do you plan to re-introduce slavery? After all, your traditional economy was built on it.
 
Kat
to "flameon" .. hm.. no where in my comments did I state anything to reflect your questions.. so I'm not sure what YOU were reading. & .. dang.. I'm going against my own decision to not bother to respond to those who are too insecure about their viewpoints to state their real name.
 
Fascist Olympic Legacy Lives On!!!
"It's too early to say if downtown surveillance cameras installed for the Olympics will become a permanent fixture, but Vancouver Police Deputy Chief Doug LePard says they've been good for controlling crowds.
He says when you're on the ground, you can only see a small piece of what's going on.
He says reports from the operation centre can show where a problem is developing."
And debt keeps marching on.....
And will we ever know how many American military, FBI, CIA, NSA, Homeland Security, FEMA, and other unwelcome foreigners were operating on Canadian soil, in (and under) Canadian waters, and in Canadian airspace on account of this overblown frat party?
 
Barb R
So true, Flameon. And we should also probably ask Kat if she would declare the Metis as "illegal" since they wouldn't exist if it weren't for the Europeans.

Oh what a sticky web she weaves! Too bad, because she missed a kick ass hockey game!!
 
Bullies
Based on my observations of these protestors, they're a bunch of bullies. They also play this mental game with themselves whereby anyone who disagrees with them are stupid and "don't understand". I find that insulting of course. Someone who disagree's with you MUST be stupid, right? or else.. you might actually be in the wrong - and that would cause your little heads to explode.
 
MB
This is a letter that I sent re: an article in the Surrey paper recently - ln ref to the columnist's article headlined "Only stain on Olympic family fun was the protesters"
They printed everything up to the PS

Aside from the headline which I found very offensive the first thing I noticed was your "prouder than a peacock" attitude towards the fact that you had no problem finding parking for your minivan so close to Robson Square
I guess you are unaware that people are being asked to leave their vehicles at home and take transit to the downtown area.
Regarding the protesters-I do not agree with the behavior of the few who wore black masks and caused damage and fear in the downtown, however for you to write off all demonstrators as having lost all credibility is like me saying the Olympic crowd it out of control because a few partiers puked outside one of the venues serving alchohol.
The thing that really saddens me the most is the fact that in alot of cases the demonstraters are seen as trouble makers, low-lifes, unemployed hippies etc etc-when really you should be supporting them or in the very least allowing them their opportunity to express their concerns without putting them down
It is obvious to me that you have no idea of the corruption involved within the IOC or the fact that many (if not all) of the sponsors have horrible track records when it comes to environmental damage, human rights issues, support of weapons manufacturing, support for the Alberta Tar Sands etc etc. Why don't you look into what's happening in Columbia between Coca Cola and their workers?
As far as freedom of speech and legitimate avenues-you make it all sound sooooo simple
Do you not think that people have been fighting this since day one! I highly recommend you watch "Five Ring Circus" an eye opening documentary explaining the real cost and impact that the games have on our city, our province, our country and any other host city at future games.
I also highly recommend that you refrain from referring to the protesters as a "stain on Olympic family fun"-considering the fact that they are dedicating their time and effort to bring so many issues to the forefront while the rest of the city/country is partying, I think they deserve a little more respect.

PS Personally I think the real reason there is a fence around the Olympic cauldron is to protect all the big wigs during their photo-ops, from getting a well deserved pie in the face

MB
 
Kat
to Barb:
Read... my ... statements... b4 commenting...
 
Barb R
Hi Kat,

I did .... read ... your .... statements

Did you not say "This land is our land, always has been always will. It was unjustly taken from us."

So wasn't that me you were referring to? Aren't you saying that I was the one who unjustly took your land away from you? And if I have no right to be here, that would make me illegal, right?

If that's not what you meant, please forgive the misunderstanding.

 
sn3v3
Why did they not get some clean educated people for the protest, who have some pride in themselves this just made us look like dirty hillbillies way to embarass ur country guys!
 
fan22
LOL!!!!

The pictures showed us all once again that this was a group of protesters that show up to every protest/march that occurs in our city. How many different things were being protested? Its ridiculous. What did these protests have to do with each other?

I remember working on Robson street over ten years ago and seeing the same nonsensical protests then. Glad to see these people have not moved on.

Also... HUGE FAIL!!!! A protest during the gold medal hockey game? Other than the GS, did any other media source even give a $hit?

 
JC
the protest that are going on are NOT helpful. intelligent, heart-full, calculated community protest and activism can move mountains. there are times when i look to activists for perspective and information. i am not pro-olympic and i obviously think the enormous amount of money should have been spent on different things rather go deeper in corporate pockets. but i'm frustrated and confused with the lack of clear forceful intelligent activity around protesting the Olympics. ie: You Lose.
 
Marty
I'm a supporter of the Olympics and I'm proud to say so. Why? Because, at their best, they bring out the best in those for whom the whole shebang is held - the athletes. Take a guy like Devon Kershaw - that dude had the courage to not only dedicate the better part of his life to pursuing excellence, but after the end of the race of his life, to weep openly in front of the nation because he finished fifth. No BS about how "it was great just to take part" or "I'm proud of our best finish ever". Didn't even give a crap about a bronze. All he could reference was how far out of first he finished. Imagine that - truly working to be the best at something. This from a guy who, like most young people today, grew up in a system where self esteem, not real accomplishments, is held in the highest regard. He beat the system. That's what Olympians do. People like him are, unfortunately, few and far between, and we suffer for it.

Sure, the Olympic movement isn't always at its best. What organization is? Any group is subject to the same failings that any person is. But as long as we have Olympics, we have a place for that one exceptional person to stand out in each event.

What's the alternative? The "Nuke the unborn gay baby whales for Jesus" crowd. Real winners they are. For nothing, against everything. Goons protesting goonery.

"If you want to achieve excellence, you can get there today. As of this second, quit doing less-than-excellent work" - Thomas J. Watson Sr. If those with legitimate claims against the Olympic movement wish to make any reasonable headway, they need to abandon their caravan of mediocrity and adopt the commitment that only Olympians possess. There's the rub.
 
Strategis
To Marty (Above) - Most people would agree with you, Marty, that pursuit of excellence is an admirable trait. But have you ever heard of "good sportmanship"? That is the corollary of the pursuit of excellence.

Do the best you can, be the best you can, respect others, and celebrate the effort and the achievements that everyone makes. Crass competitiveness and selfishness are repulsive traits. Winning the gold medal is a goal, but it isn't THE GOAL. Win or lose, the real gold is the qualities of character you develop in the process of striving to be the best you can. The real goal isn't being the best in the world at some meaningless stunt. It's becoming a better person.

In short, "It's the doing that counts, not the end result". Learning what good sportsmanship is, and developing that quality, is the only true benefit of the Olympics - or any competition. How you train, how you compete, and how you relate to the other competitors is infinitely more important than whether you win a medal or not.

I wish the media and organizers would try to remember this at times, instead of constantly emphasising the shiny Olympic trinkets that only one in a million competitive athletes will ever win.

And once the Olympic games are over, and the athlete or trainer returns home, they return to the normal world, and themselves, their friends, their family, and communities, and their unique life challenges, like everyone else. And that shiny Olympic medal is unlikely to change anything. Seriously. It won't. The only thing that will make a difference is the lessons one learnt along the journey. That's all you're left with.

I know. I played that game. I spent ten years training for Olympic competition. In the end, the glory will fade, and disappear, and you will be left with what you have inside. And the real gold is the respect you've earned for others' challenges, efforts and accomplishments, and the discovery that if you have faith in yourself, and if you try hard enough, and work together with competent coaches and team mates, and you never give up, then sometimes, once in a million, you can achieve something extraordinary, perhaps push the limits of human achievement, and thereby give hope and encouragement to all the others whose burdens are heavy, or who sense greater possibilities in life.
 
Kat
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/3/2/in_the_shadow_of_the_olympic
 
Repeat Post from Kat
Okay.. seeing as I am bearing the brunt of the typical, I ask you to read carefully, my first post. I had to reread my own post to see what the heck people are hallucinating about. *I do not blame the Olympics for Harriet's death in my statement anywhere.. people take it upon themselves to read into what's not there. On Saturday, February 28, 2010 at 4:00 pm, my part of that day was to honor one of my elders & that's exactly what I did. Why must people search out every opportunity to do the put down? But this is their life, who am I do try to change that:

"Harriet Nahanee "Tseybayot 1935 – February 24, 2007, a survivor of the residential school system, was from the Pacheedaht First Nation.

She was sentenced two weeks provincial jail at the Surrey pre-trial centre, January 2007 for criminal contempt of court for fighting to protect the Eagle Ridge Bluffs wetlands, from the Sea-to-Sky Highway expansion in preparation for the Olympics. Harriet and Betty Krawzyk set up tents and blocked the bulldozing of the Eagle Ridge bluff area .. her concern was for the animals, eagles and other animals..She was already ill with flu and asthma upon arrival but was refused treatment. Days after her release she was admitted to hospital.

On the evening of February 23, the Indigenous Action Movement held at candlelight vigil outside the hospital .. A family member helped her call us outside.. where Harriet sang us a prayer song and told us to stay strong, in her weakened voice. It was very emotional.

Doctor's tests discovered that Harriet suffered from lung cancer. She died of complications to pneumonia at St. Paul’s Hospital February 24. So obviously, during her stint in the cold jail, she was suffering.

To date there is no inquiry called into her death.

March 12th, 2010 Justice Brown will sentence Harriet's friend and comrade, Krawczyk for her fight for the Eagleridge Bluffs."

TO BARB: You go on to again rhetorize: "So wasn't that me you were referring to? Aren't you saying that I was the one who unjustly took your land away from you? And if I have no right to be here, that would make me illegal, right?"

That you feel the need to express yourself as potentially "illegal" is your own, not mine, not my statement. My statement, "This land is our land, always has been always will. It was unjustly taken from us." Is fact.

& so I hope you all have a great life. I have one, and I'm going to move on to do what I do & I hope you get out there to get some fresh air. We all need it.. even though it's not as fresh as once was. International Women's Day Saturday people! I'll be doing the opening at one of them.. but yah.. lest two people here may come to judge my prayer song..I'll not post where! Just kidding! If you knew me, which you don't (before you react, I do realize you don't) you'll find a very nice, easy going, great sense of humor individual, I help where and when I can, which is more often now. as I have lupus & can only work part-time. To all supporters & those who want to live in a sustainable earth.. much love to ya!

Peace Out
Kat Norris
Coast Salish Gramma
 
giveyerheadashake
QUOTE"Doctor's tests discovered that Harriet suffered from lung cancer. She died of complications to pneumonia at St. Paul’s Hospital February 24. So obviously, during her stint in the cold jail, she was suffering.To date there is no inquiry called into her death.
March 5th, 2010 Justice Brown will sentence Harriet's friend and comrade, Krawczyk for her fight for the Eagleridge Bluffs."

Yeah and how many years did ol Harriet smoke??? .. but yeah ... must a been that last busy day at the ER and the 2 weeks in jail she got herself into ...sorry what is it you need an Inquiry for?? ... and I hope they hammer that Betty K idiot this time... when will all you people figure out your not changing anything... there is a plan... and it will not be stopped ... this will be an uber Metropolis in 25 years... suck it up and go fight something you have a chance of winning.
 
Karen J
give yer head a shake has got his shaken one too many times.
 
Erling
@You lose - so let me get this straight - you've decided to abandon all your supposedly principled positions about social justice because you were disturbed by a street hockey game and some paint on the sidewalk? Because people occupied an empty lot and sang some songs? You're going to oppose housing rights because of what is essentially a whining noise complaint? Oh, honey, you picked the wrong neighbourhood to buy your condo in. Enjoy your (brief) stay.
 
Bruce
Brilliant idea having a protest while the rest of Canada was watching hockey... shows how informed and connected these people are
 
visigoth
Too bad about the "stolen" land. You snooze you lose. Drop the oligarchy and get with the 21st century.
 
BC mom
Kat, I just saw your picture... you are beautiful, I am sorry for your loss.
 
sebastian
It comes down to a philosophical difference between people who feel there is an unequal distibution of wealth and power in society and those who feel that everything is as good as it can possibly be.
The imposition of Bill 13 was a clear attempt to undermine or at least discourage the freedom of expression. The fact that BC and Canadian tax dollars were spent to have the games, but there was only a vote held in Vancouver to ask the population if they supported the idea (2003) is also un-democratic. I think there should have been a vote across the country to see who supported the idea of paying for the games and who didn ´t. A lot of people are telling me ¨the games were funded by corporate sponsors, this money would not have been available without the games ¨ which is true, but what about the part that came from our tax dollars, surely that part could have been used to build schools and hospitals which would have created a lot of jobs in the long term and also would have left us with schools and hospitals instead of stadiums and a highway that a fraction of BC residents and Canadians will ever use.
I don ´t think the death of Harriet Nahanee is being claimed as a murder or necessarily being correlated to the olympics. We can speculate all we want. To me her death highlights the tragedy in our society and many societies which has been to ignore the voices of the people who care about nature and the well being of other humans. It is obvious that corporations benefit from these games hugely. I hear that the marketing of the event was impressive. My pro-olympics friend told me she was happy that the world was coming to Vancouver, to spend money and to drive our economy. I simply disagree. I don ´t think it ´s a good thing when consumption is driven through the roof because it encourages a destructive, meaningless society. When I ask friends why they don ´t get mad about Bill 13 or the surgeries that were cancelled and school programs that were cut, they tell me that the long term benefits will take care of all that. But why do we have to wait for the usually empty promise of some trickledown effect? Why can ´t we act now?
I have come to the sad conclusion that young Canadians care more about having a party than upholding democracy. I agree that the protesters fell short and were a bit unorganized and somebody should have stepped in when they started smashing things, but the people who try to stop the protesters from marching are trying to destroy democracy, they don ´t think it ´s important for people to express a plurality of opinion. There is a disturbing comment above (fan22) that talks about the failure of protesters because of the lack of media coverage. The fact that these protesters were not given more of a voice in the ¨popular ¨ media is a huge problem. If reporters got to the root of the issues and actually investigated the ideas that inspired these protests, more people would understand them and there would be less of a ¨with us or against us ¨ mentality. The fact is that many of the issues such as rising homelessness, cutting programs, the destruction of the environment and land claims are issues that people who support the olympics care about. The problem is that most people are willing to suspend their passion for these issues to join the party, they can ´t resist the temptation to be part of a once-in-a-lifetime fiesta. I ´m tired of living in a place where people are uncritical of the government, don ´t care to ask questions, don ´t push for answers and are generally complacent to the obvious plight of other humans. I ´m tired of people seeing problems and simply accepting their existence because they have always been there instead of actively trying to solve those problems.
 
Camille
Give it up Kat. Does it really matter what happened hundreds of years ago? Are we not all Canadians now. Why don't the aboriginal people of Canada join regular society and be a productive part of our country instead of complaining and whining about what happened generations ago. History happens and you need to get over it and get on with your life. No one owes you anything and no one owes me anything. We need to make our own place in the world and be proud Canadians together. I am sure the people that had their land taken away are long gone so any aboriginals today did not have anything taken away, you are a normal Canadian like everyone else in this country. You are not extra special because you are native and are not owed anything. If you want something work for it like everyone else in this country has to. So sick of hearing about what is owed to you, I don't owe you anything, I didn't take anything and no one took anything from you either.
 
Big Bill
I think a lot of Americans will be affecting a New Zealand accent and swapping out their Canadian flags when they go travelling from now on. These Olympics were an embarassment. We have lost our reputation for decency and fairness despite the desperate drumbeat of "national pride" emanating from CTV, Canwest and a PR community in "Premiere DUI" mode. Yes, my spoiled, rich teenager on American-made, non-traceable performance enhancing drugs is faster than your spoiled, rich teenager on American-made, non-traceable performance enhancing drugs. Oh, how my heart swells with patriotic, National-Socialist fervour when someone I have had nothing to do with or helped in any way succeeds in getting a medal. Well, at least I didn't vote AGAINST funding the spoiled teenager like big-fat-bald-counter-demonstrating-for-no-reason-bully-hockey-fan did.
 
Strategis
Considering that the monopoly owned media treats topics in tiny sound bytes, and usually ignores, or twists, the real critical issues of our time, this places a heavy burden on generally poor activists to try to get their diverse messages out. Protests therefore are generally scheduled during major events when the corporate media are about, or when there is some aspect of a newsworthy situation relating to one or more issues. This is one of the few ways that protestors can be heard.

Protestors are not a monolithic group. Organising them is like trying to herd cats. You can't expect them all to dance to the same tune, to jump to the same orders, or to agree on issues, priorities, messages, slogans, and protest strategies. They are not particularly well organised, and they generally have little or no budget to work with. So it is unrealistic to expect of them a highly polished public relations campaign, literature, signs, timing, strategies, press releases, etc. The corporations and government do that.

The difference is that the protest and social justice movement have independence, they have principles, they have a heart, they have a soul, they care about truth, people and the planet first, before money and power, and they have creativity. They serve as the conscience of society.

They are not necessarily well organised, neat, consistent, or always right. But they should be encouraged, and their untidy behavior tolerated, and they should be listened to by everyone, because there are pearls in their clutter of messages, and it you listen very closely, sometimes you can hear the voices of angels among their chants, songs, raucous shouts and strident speeches.

Regarding the much debated strategic window smashers. Many people condemned protestors in general for participating in a march along with the Black Bloc, for not restraining them when they were about to damage private property, or for not condemning them or criticizing their behaviour. What you are expecting is unrealistic. Many groups and individuals participate in a protest event or march, people of all ages, faiths and persuasions. They all represent only themselves, not others. They don't know or necessarily care what others are believing or planning to do. And if an aggressive, angst ridden group of young people suddenly pick something up and hurl it, no sensible citizen would or should try to restrain them. That is the job of the police, who were there in numbers sufficient to fight a small war, and armed accordingly. Citizens are not responsible for nor advised to assault other citizens because they think they might commit an act of vandalism. That's a ridiculous argument to make. Even the police aren't authorized to assault someone in anticipation of them commiting an act of vandalism, let alone citizens.

Regarding the expectation that protestors condemn other protestors, that is ridiculous also. There are hundreds of protestors, and hundreds of thousands of their sympathisers. It isn't their concern or responsibility to pass judgement on other protestors, on their views or their conduct. Their concern is to bring awareness to the issues they want addressed. That is all. If a few fringe people think breaking a couple of windows will advance society, then so be it. It takes all types to make a world. Most people don't agree, but it isn't our duty to condemn everyone we don't agree with. If there are a handful of people in Canada who think commiting civil disobedience by doing a few thousand dollars worth of property damage every few years to try to get their message across, and that is Canada's most serious problem with the protest and civil society sector, then I think we have alot to be thankful for. Alot. Think about it.

Thank you all activists, protestors and people of conscience. Without you, our society would be shallow, soul-less and creepy.
 
Different Experience
I grew up Native in a non-native community as well and similarly...holding onto my identity has been tough to say the least. I could not disagree with you more. I felt unwelcome and unsafe. I was jeered by drunks clearly for my race - if you think some parroting of what some of us were 100 years ago represents us today as much more than palatable sterotypes I think you have lost touch. I encourage you to remember/research your history past and contemporary. This event was not about us.
 
fred the head
now now now that was one good hookey game now sit in your seats and watch the stanley coup but remember take a cab home.
 
Kat to Camille
.. It was out of morbid curiousity that I decided to check back in.. (Camille, if that's your real name).. wow! Typical elementary and high school history book response. It's okay.. you can live in your world.. believe what you may.. that type of high school response bears no affect because it's so cliche...
 
RodSmelser
strategis

Regarding the much debated strategic window smashers. Many people condemned protestors in general for participating in a march along with the Black Bloc, for not restraining them when they were about to damage private property, or for not condemning them or criticizing their behaviour. What you are expecting is unrealistic. Many groups and individuals participate in a protest event or march, people of all ages, faiths and persuasions. They all represent only themselves, not others. They don't know or necessarily care what others are believing or planning to do. And if an aggressive, angst ridden group of young people suddenly pick something up and hurl it, no sensible citizen would or should try to restrain them. That is the job of the police, who were there in numbers sufficient to fight a small war, and armed accordingly. Citizens are not responsible for nor advised to assault other citizens because they think they might commit an act of vandalism. That's a ridiculous argument to make. Even the police aren't authorized to assault someone in anticipation of them commiting an act of vandalism, let alone citizens.

Regarding the expectation that protestors condemn other protestors, that is ridiculous also. There are hundreds of protestors, and hundreds of thousands of their sympathisers. It isn't their concern or responsibility to pass judgement on other protestors, on their views or their conduct. Their concern is to bring awareness to the issues they want addressed. That is all. If a few fringe people think breaking a couple of windows will advance society, then so be it. It takes all types to make a world. Most people don't agree, but it isn't our duty to condemn everyone we don't agree with. If there are a handful of people in Canada who think commiting civil disobedience by doing a few thousand dollars worth of property damage every few years to try to get their message across, and that is Canada's most serious problem with the protest and civil society sector, then I think we have alot to be thankful for. Alot. Think about it.
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I thought I was wasting my time coming back to visit this item which is now over a week old. I am glad I did. Because if I hadn't, I would have missed reading this particularly revealing bit of complete and utter god damned lunacy.


A lot of people wrongly think that the "polarized" or "blood sport" atmosphere of BC politics was created by the politicians. I would urge them to read strategis's post and ask themselves where they think the extremism really comes from.

Rod Smelser
 
firefly
its all bull show me the real books.
 
MR. PANTIES OFF
WHAT A BUNCH OF SHEEP.
 
 
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