I see no evidence whatsoever for this rally this organization is talking about - are you fact-checking this Straight?

Even though it bothered me I tried to google to find a reference to the rally but found none.

Call me skeptical this isn't bs for the group to get publicity - which you just did. 

It's highly doubtful that there would be any such thing happening anywhere in Vancouver. It sounds more like "No One Is Illegal" is pulling a stunt to try and boost their membership numbers. 

Kassamali said that some people hold the notion that Canada has become “too lax on immigrants” and that immigrants themselves are “becoming violent, and they’re not grateful”. Well I'm here to tell you that" I agree with that statement" As to the statemnet that no one is illegal What a joke.... The last i heard there were about 60,000 that are lost and have not reported to immigration after their visas ran out,or said that they were just visiting and never left. Don't get me wrong i do not agree with the neo nazis, but i do think that the immigration laws are far to lax 

Well they sure did pick a crappy spot: http://tinyurl.com/ydtme2z ... though it might be a commuter choke point for their audience.

Hopefully they won't harm anyone.

Too bad they lack empathy. 

The real problem with immigration law isn't the good people that are convenient to deport, but the major criminals who AREN'T deported because it's too much paperwork for the people who deal with it.

THAT is a real problem. The rest of it is just a lot of ego noshing and a bit ridiculous.

Serious criminal activity - millions in fraud, multiple rape convictions - these people are left to run around in our country - THAT is something the government should take very, very seriously - and it isn't making it a priority.

 

I was never repatriated in 1982. I am also a landowner, and therefore enjoy all the rights and freedoms that were given to me by the Queen under the Statutes of Westminster and the BNAct. Of course, I also don't pay taxes (never have never will)

Neo-cons have destroyed this country by opening up the immigration floodgates, and using immigration to fight their wars with our unions. This doesn't mean we ought to hunt down the immigrants. Poor bastards were slaves when they left their home countries and they get it no better here.

That said, I for one am not pleased to hear of a white supremacist rally, and if this can indeed be verified, I expect that CSIS and the RCMP be there to arrest any leaders or persons facilitating this event, and to charge them accordingly under Hate Crimes legislation.

That, or maybe some of my brethen will show up and take care of the situation accordingly.  

racists: the best reason to legalise flamethrowers. 

I think this is complete BS from the ant-racists. I remember a Vancouver Courier article years ago from this type of group, maybe even the same group where they stated that neo-nazis were recruitung dowwntown and were attacking people and I recall they claimed the nazis had raped a girl in broad daylight and had set fire to another person. When the police were asked about it they said they had had no reports of such incidents. Hope they no-one is illegal folks have a nice time standing around in New West. I pity any white kid with a brush cut who happens by on his way to the skate park or something. 

Neo-nazi and gay haters have same issues; they appear to hate others but really just hate themselves. 

Has the reported made any effort to confirm "No one is Illegal's" claim? The article seems to have only one source for its information - that being "No one is Illegal." Not top-notch journalism if you ask me. 

The counter-rally is actually being organized by Anti-Racist Action and others, NOII was contacted after-the-fact and plans on being there. It is entirely possible that the white supremacists cancel their planned rally due to the negative publicity they have been receiving (for example, facebook has removed their group); however that does not mean it was all a publicity stunt to begin with. Whether or not people agree with the politics and organizing of NOII, people *should* be concerned with white supremacists taking root in this city.  

The previous posters who are claiming this information is unverified should click on the actual link provided in the story. 

If you can't find anything on Google about it, it doesn't exist. It's a hoax.


Is anyone really stupid enough to think like that?



Rod Smelser 

I love the irony of neo-nazism; the fact that these people are so impressed by a group that was ultimately, complete losers.
Miguel 

There was a Facebook event page and group ("Advocate’s [sic] for White Civil Rights") started to promote a white pride march scheduled for March 21st. However, I believe that the pages have been taken down, either due to people reporting the page to Facebook or because the comments on the pages were overwhelmingly negative.

Funny how most comments here are critical of NOII and/or immigrants, rather than the racists. That's rather telling of the priorities at work here.

Why the surprise that it could happen in Vancouver? There's certainly been a history of white supremacist groups in this area. Just because the Heritage Front is supposedly defunct now doesn't mean that the racist sentiment just disappeared. 

Thanks for "reporting" on this non-story while ignoring Kash Heed's call for new police powers to perform "RANDOM BLOOD TESTS" on the public.

Kind of seems like the insinuation you're pushing is that if you don't agree with "No One Is Illegal" then you're a nazi.

I don't like nazi's or NOII. But I do appreciate the irony of "anti-racists" picking out a minority group and attacking them in the name of tolerance. The whole situation has a Southpark vibe to it. 

People are critical of NOII because they didn't distance themselves from or condemn the violence in the anti-olympic protest they organized. It's pretty hard to take them seriously on any issue. 

Whitey is going extinct! Good riddance, rednecks! 

Shut up reg. Most people in Vancouver, white or non-white, do not agree with your sentiment. 

hey folks. i totally remember seeing a facebook group and facebook event promoting this neo nazi rally. i reported it to facebook, as did some other people, and it was taken down by the facebook administrators. whether the neo-nazi rally is going ahead or not - there were definitely plans to have it. 

Birdy: Is that in response to my comment? If so, I think you're reading something into it that isn't there.

Transitrider: I might disagree with criticism levelled at NOII, but my comment didn't even touch on that. The point of my comment was that in a thread about a piece on a neo-Nazi march the bulk of criticism was reserved for NOII, the immigration system, and immigrants - not the neo-Nazis. Maybe you don't see anything off about that, but I do. 

Scary that this article is about neo-nazi's, and yet so many of the comments criticize immigrants and an anti-racist organization. How can anyone read a story about neo-nazi's and not comment on the possibility of NEO-NAZI's? You know, the folks that aim to smash human beings? It is scary to learn that the world might not be as safe as we would like to believe. There is so much denial and ignorance of the realities of racist violence. There was a facebook page that got reported and taken down, so it sure seems like the march was planned, and there is a poster for the larger white supremacist march on Vancouver Island.
http://vancouver.mediacoop.ca/newsrelease/3005
http://anti-racistcanada.blogspot.com/

People, don't turn a blind eye. And don't replicate the same misinformed arguments about immigrants that are made by the neo-nazis themselves, especially if you're not one! 

I wonder if this is the same white mob that marched through Chinatown a couple of weeks ago and encircled the Chinese Cutural Centre, and then locked all the doors with the people inside. 

Transitrider, please. An article on neo-Nazis and you're instead arguing against an immigrant's rights group? Your bias is showing, and it's pretty disgusting. 

Looking for proof that this is not just being made up:
http://anti-racistcanada.blogspot.com/2010/03/blood-and-honour-plan-vanc...
 

I hope that lots of people come up to support the Anti Racist Action/No one is illegal event at 11. We need to stand up against these racist neo nazis. 

@ the people at the top, even if we werent counteracting another rally, we still are marching for multiculturalism. 

Unless you are First Nations, Inuit, or Aboriginal, your ancestors IMMIGRATED to Canada by boat, plane, etc. Please do not act like this is YOUR country and that you can spread your uninformed opinion about the different stages of immigration.

And for those of you who believe that No One Is Illegal is fabricating (!) this neo-nazi rally for publicity: Please at least try to remove your head from your rectum to educate yourself about what is going on in the world. You should be thanking No One Is Illegal for monitoring the increase of neo-nazi activity, and taking a strong public stance against the spread of hate messages in Canada. Just because you couldn't find the neo-nazi rally by google search, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It would be much easier and warm and fuzzier to believe that this neo-nazi hatred could not possible exist, but it's time to wake up. Thank you, No One is Illegal, for informing the public about this misguided hate march, and for taking a public stand against it.  

Neo-nazis, and all humans, including those that stubbornly hang on to the past (via culture) have to realise that eventually (maybe tens of thousands years from now) all humans will be the same color. It has nothing to do with assimilation or a hostile takeover by any one group; it has to do with biology. 

Okay folks, why are you getting all down on NOII with such incredulous accusations as this being some ploy to get publicity and "boost their membership numbers"??!! And really, you seriously think that "it's highly doubtful that there would be any such thing happening anywhere in Vancouver"??!! Perhaps you think that Vancouver is still basking in it's fake Olympic patriotism and that we're just too busy being full of love for each other that we couldn't even consider that racism is alive and well in, yes, VANCOUVER! Seriously, direct your anger at the racists, not the communities that work day in and day out to fight it.

Hopefully the racists will cancel their shameless display of racism; and if they do, don't make the same mistake in assuming that it was never going to happen but instead, believe in the power of community to pre-emptively confront this type of bs racist behaviour and to effect change.

As the article states, "white-supremacist demonstrations have occurred on this day in Calgary and other Canadian cities in recent years"... if the racists think they can successfully hold these types of events in Vancouver, it's up to all of us who abhor racism to confront them and make sure they understand that this type of racist organizing will not be met without a very strong, united opposition.

If you feel that there is no room for racism in Vancouver make it a priority to attend the rally to confront the racists, don't assume others are doing it so you don't need to for "silence is the voice of complicity"... don't be complicit in this racist agenda. 

There is direct connection between the nationalism we were subjected to during the Olympics and the re-emergence of neo-nazism. Don't think it's a coincidence that this appeared exactly now. The boneheads are mindless clowns caught up in fighting each other and we need to oppose them if they are stupid enough to show up. But the larger problem is the neo-nazis who wear suits and the ones who never appear in public who try to "mainstream" the ideology. Now is their best opportunity. We've had a month of "ordinary Canadians" wallowing in nationalism and just this morning the daily papers are helping to inflame the situation by evoking "yellow peril". That people commenting here point the finger at migrants is really disturbing. Time to read up on the Weimar years before we relive them. 

Now that so many people from NOII has spammed the board, it's pretty obvious that this "scary" event is fabricated. 

I am white and unemployed - tell that is not a disadvantage in Vancouver. I'll be homeless soon - have you seen the DTES? Most of them are white too. 

I find it frighting that so many here are defending the Neo-Nazis and
lambasting NOII, believe me, when Racists feel supported they become confident and brazen in action.

Will we stop them now or wait until they start a murder campaign?

 

http://vancouver.mediacoop.ca/newsrelease/3005 

@ Transitrider- The ARA press release was out before this piece, NOII was one of the last organizations contacted. Trying to demonize them for joining in this worthy cause is ridiculous. I wish it were fabricated, but this is dead serious. Go look at stormfront.org 

From the face of it, these people that posted their rally are simply proud of their European culture. Where is the racism in that? When people of various cultures - the Chinese, Italians, Jews, French, etc. - have festivals, then no one objects. What is the difference between celebrating Celtic culture, and celebrating "White Pride"? 

NOI is being utterly stupid.

1. They'll form the majority of the audience, and have now inspired all of the media coverage that this so-called rally is going to get. Way to go, NOI!

2. While no one should ever look to Nazis to supply policy -- they had their shot at government were completely awful -- what is the benefit to shutting them up or shouting them down? To me, it always pays to listen to complaints, even if (or, even because) they are offensive and dumb. We can then have a civilized discussion. 

I would have to say that after a hundred years of looking at ourselves and fighting racism, white man is the most tolerant race. We have apologized to the Chinese, the Natives, and any race we have wronged in the past. I don't see any other race in the world doing the same and you can't tell me that the only racists on the planet are white people.
That said, we still have a ways to go.
While we don't want to lose our heritage to multiculturalism, Nazism is not the answer.
Nazi's represent hate and intolerance.
This white man would only march in the name of love, tolerance and compassion - the value's that represent Canada in all her glory. I don't see these values from the Nazi's or from NOII.  

Racism has no color! As for the so called Toronto 18, they are very real! I welcome all immigrants without hate, some Muslims want to bring in the shariah law, they should cheerfully be deported, check out what the future may be if we keep our heads in the sand !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne7z-_RXWeA
Now tell me he isn't racist, he wants us all dead, its up to us to tell our Government we want immigrants that bring love here, not hate. Now if this guy was white it would be on Opera... we would not hear the end of it, but for some reason we are evil if we speak out against this kind of hate, and for the kicker I am not white! I hate Racist people as much as you zealot PC people., 

.. so so funny.. obviously you don't have to live your life dealing or experiencing racism. Oh it must be so awesome to live in oblivion!  

OK, all of this over a posting on face book?? Is this for real?? Some pimple faced geek got tired whacking off to porn in the internet and in digital age, instead of placing a flaming bag of dog shit on someone's dooe step, ringiing the door bell and ruuning like hell, the nerd posts some neo-nazi shit on face book and Wacky Walia and her NOII go to town. I guess we now know someone is illegal....neo-nazis. 

I think the recent episode with the Iranian elections proved that facebook has become a legitimate platform for the exchange of political information at the grass-roots level. The following is a direct quote from the Canadian Race Relations Foundation:
"The laws and institutions of Canadian society that are designed to protect the rights of all citizens are contradictory to the declared goals of the white supremacist movement. Democracy itself is seen as a barrier to establishing white supremacy. Changing the basic nature of government is therefore required. And for some, a matter of life and death. White supremacists pursue their goals through the use of violence, including terrorism, or by campaigning in the political mainstream or both."
I for one am not willing to ignore their presence in our community.
"All that is required for evil to prevail is that good men do nothing." 

Besides which, it's not the one pimply-faced geek who posted it that worries us. It's the 48 that clicked "attending". 

At the very worst, we'll have two extremist, small-minded, now apparently violent groups going toe-to-toe...that should make life fairly peaceful for the non-violent, moderate, open-minded majority of us. 

This thread has been contaminated by nationalists and whitepower boneheads, who try to provoke us by dissing NOII and the claims on this neo-nazi rally, who IS set to take place. This is an attempt at diverting our attention from the ongoing rise of nationalism and racism in this country (as in many other places in the Western world these days, and the need to fight it as immediately as possible, in order to protect tolerance in this society.

So to you, racist jerks, fuck off! We know who you are. Your "Canada" is nothing but an imperialistic State based on the British empire, and it keeps stealing vast chops of land and resources in the name of "democracy", while being one of the most controlling States in terms of immigration and treatment of refugees.

White people are the most racially tolerant? Tell me, then, why the police, major political parties, corporations and labor unions are vastly composed of White males, especially at the top of the hierarchy, where it's almost completely homogenous? As long as White males possess and use their control over immigration they are segregating people from other sexes and ethnic origins, and they DO, actively, these days... Over 250 000 people, a lot of them being womens, are being kept from gaining citizenship in Canada, based on their Middle-Eastern or arab origins. Immigration Canada has an ongoing policy to grant status to not more than 10% of refugees who come from impoverished conditions, the rest coming from the richest elites out of developing countries. This is race and class-based segregation, to keep the poor from benefitting from decent conditions of living that "we" the mostly-white Canadians get de facto AT BIRTH, while others have to cross the ocean in locked-down containers at the risk of their lives. What makes you so sure we "deserve" to be here, more than any other person???

"While we don't want to lose our heritage to multiculturalism, Nazism is not the answer.
Nazi's represent hate and intolerance. "
Bullshit. Talking about your "heritage" while denying Nazism? Yeah right... Time you get your svastikas out of the closet, you bonehead. I know exactly how you fascist cowards hide your leanings these days, in the fear of having your "pride" kicked back to Hitler's grave.

Us anarchists, leftists and anti-racists, together and in great numbers, we will be waiting for you on the 21st, and we promise to smash you so bad you gonna be desperate to "go home"... to your crappy, corporatist, fucked up Europe! There's plenty of room for you in Belgium, by the stinky farm canals!

Down with nationalism! Antifa!!!

 

Like I said yesterday: the nationalist spell and newspapers are helping fuel an ultraright revival. Don’t take my word for it. Look for yourself at how the nazis are using the press hysteria to mobilize: http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=689434
Thanks a lot Canadian Press! It CAN happen here! It WILL happen here if we don’t challenge it! 

So we're supposed to believe that a group of Nazis are in Vancouver, and that they are planning some kind of criminal activity, and that we should therefore hate them, and draw attention to them, to prevent this criminal activity? That is a tall order to accept, and deserves some kind of proof, not just alot of hysterical blustering.
The last time I checked, we lived in a free country, where people are allowed to think, believe, feel, and say what they like. There are very few, and clearly defined limits on these precious freedoms.
If there is a criminal conspiracy, let's hear abou the facts.
If some people are commiting thought crimes according to Canadian law, or emotion crimes, then spell out the particulars of the case, the evidence, and the laws being violated.
Otherwise, all the hate I can see, and the crimes being discussed, are by the leftist thought police and the rednecks that have been brainwashed to see Nazis behind every bush. 

There's some very alarming posts in this discussion. Some very sickening posts.
Rod Smelser 

If you ever read the comments posted by viewers on the CTV website when any negative news comes out about ethnic minorities... you'll realize that neo-nazis are alive and well in Vancouver. It's like they hunt for any negative news (which is always highlighted by CTV), and completely ignore positive news (which is often shoved under the rug by CTV anyway). There are quite a few Vancouver bloggers as well who hate on entire communities. I know it because I'm a Sikh. I've felt the brunt of it and know several others who have. Friends... It doesn't matter if your boat here got here 100 years before ours, you still came on a boat just like we did :). (& then they say "don't pull the Aboriginal card" and dish out a bunch of hogwash about ... whatever, I started ignoring them at this point).

I don't know anything about this particular event, but I support NOII's efforts to thwart any type of racist/neo-nazi activity here. Haters should not be welcome in Vancity.