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Australian policy urged for refugees to Canada in wake of Tamil arrivals

Under Australia’s former refugee model, asylum seekers like those on the MV Sun Sea are processed out of the country.

By Carlito Pablo,

A former Canadian diplomat says the federal government should adopt Australia’s so-called Pacific Solution for dealing with asylum seekers, a policy that a UBC expert on migration and refugee law considers the “worst” of its kind.

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Between 2001 and 2007, boats bound for Australia were diverted to small Pacific islands, where the passengers were confined to camps while their applications for refugee status were processed.

The Australian government is moving to revive the practice, and Martin Collacott believes Canada should follow suit.

During the 1980s, Collacott served as Canada’s high commissioner in Sri Lanka, the country of origin of the 492 Tamils who landed in B.C. onboard the cramped freighter MV Sun Sea on August 13.

Now a senior fellow with the Fraser Institute, a right-wing think tank, Collacott says he doubts the federal government can prevent more waves of boat people from arriving if it doesn’t use the Australian model.

“It means that we would stop them from landing in Canada and take them to a safe place, maybe in a country somewhere else in Central America”¦and still screen all of them, still give them all the chance to come to Canada as refugees, but not face the problem of having a lot of people arrive on our soil,” Collacott told the Georgia Straight in a phone interview.

He asserted that Canada would remain in compliance with its international and legal obligations regarding the treatment of refugee claimants if it were to adopt this policy.

“What the Australians did was this: they said, ”˜We have an international obligation to consider these people’s claims. But what we will not do is let them to land on Australian soil,’ ” he explained. “And the reason for that was in the case of those people that they did not think were genuine refugees, it was very hard to remove them once they were in Australia. There are all sorts of appeals and legal questions [in that situation].”

However, UBC law professor Catherine Dauvergne believes the Australian scheme is a “very bad model to follow”.

“I think it represents the worst standard of practice in the western world,” Dauvergne told the Straight in a phone interview. “I think that it is a breach of international law in both spirit and letter. I believe that it amounts to abrogating protection responsibilities for international human rights.”

The right to a fair hearing that’s guaranteed under the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms extends to refugee claimants present in the country, according to the landmark Singh decision by the Supreme Court of Canada in 1985.

So far, according to Dauvergne, the government is following the letter of the law in handling the Tamil refugee situation. However, she also noted that Conservative public safety minister Vic Toews has been “a bit irresponsible in terms of inflaming public sentiments”.

Dauvergne was referring to Toews’s suggestion that the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam—banned as a terrorist organization in Canada—may have been responsible for arranging the MV Sun Sea’s journey, possibly even charging passengers up to $50,000 each.

Toews has also voiced concern that Tamil Tigers may have joined other asylum seekers onboard, a contention that SFU professor and security expert Andre Gerolymatos says may have some basis.

In a phone interview with the Straight, Gerolymatos said it’s likely that these former guerillas are trying to regroup in countries like Canada, where there is a sizable Tamil population.

The refugee claimants are said to be fleeing from persecution that has occurred following the decisive defeat of the Tamil Tigers by the Sri Lankan military in May 2009.

However, Port Coquitlam resident Bandu Madanayake disputes this rationale. Madanayake belongs to the Sinhalese ethnic group, whose members comprise the majority in Sri Lanka. He’s also the president of the Canadian Association for United Sri Lanka.

Noting that the MV Sun Sea originated in Thailand, Madanayake noted in a phone interview that people are free to come and go from Sri Lanka as they wish. “That means Sri Lanka is a free country,” Madanayake told the Straight.

Like Madanayake, Pretheepan Thavaneetharaja hails from Sri Lanka. But he’s from the northern part of the country, where Tamils fought for an independent state for 26 years.

Thavaneetharaja, who’s the secretary for the Thamil Cultural Society of B.C., believes that many of those who came onboard the MV Sun Sea are genuine refugees who fear for their lives.

“They should be processed according to law,” Thavaneetharaja told the Straight in a phone interview. “They should be heard properly.”

Comments

Benjamin Bregg
Why is Canada allowing Organized crime from oversees to profit from our tax dollars?
Yes people from some Nations live in toilet bowls as their native country are abusive to it's citizen's basic rights.

Canadians are taxed to death in this country, and BC residents are taxed highest.
Vancouver area citizens live in the most expensive city in the world with relation to their income and the cost to live here.
That is why we are now more outspoken to the most recent landing of refuges.
We are now no longer in a position to carry others. We are done.
Why are we spending the 10's of millions to process, shelter, and bring to health those who have supported organized crime?
Not only will this cost us now. But will cost us as we continue support persons through, welfare, and the high likeliness of their activity in criminal activity in Canada.
How else are the uneducated refugees going to pay off their 50k debt load?
Not by working in legitimate jobs that have an income tax attached to them.

If Canada wanted to see themselves as a compassionate Nation we would welcome the educated persons from foreign countries, make it easier for them to come to Canada and work in our understaffed sectors such as health, and education. That is money well spent.
Through such an effort we can actually have a positive effect on this nation in a more immediate fashion.
Tax dollars would actually come back, and be gained in our Country.

More and more Canadians are tired of seeing their tax dollars go out the window to things that get no results. Nor have a result in anything positive for Canada.
We already give. Give, and give to foreign nations.
Isn't that what the war in the middle east sold to us as?
We are there spending BILLIONS to protect people being terrorized by the Taliban, right?
That's what Harper has sold us anyway.

We gave Tens of Millions more this year if not 100's of Millions to people in Haiti. We will at some point breakdown and give more money to Pakistan for the flood victims. How much is anyone's guess?

But - bleed us some more in our tax dollars to spend money that will never see a return. And to help persons into our country who are not educated, and face only criminal activity to pay off their massive debt load. Then they are locked into crime and prostitution for life. if they even live that long. We then spend more money, busting them, and protecting their rights in court for their rights when they may not even have status in Canada.

Why not intercept them. Send in medical staff, set em up with fresh food, water, and send them home. That is a compassionate as we need to be.

If new tax laws can be written to tax us more. Then other laws can be re-written to change how we deal with things that cost us this nation.

Canada and BC does not have the tax base to be this compassionate any longer.

Soon we will all be able to see refuge in another nation and get it based on our government taxing us to death and getting nothing for it.
 
Mac
So far they've completely botched handling these people on Canadian soil, I'd hate to think how they would be treated in an immigration-run Guantanamo.
We saw this same manufactured, xenophobic hysteria back in 1981 with the Vietnamese, all of whom are now productive citizens. We should bear in mind that Collacott's opinion can hardly be regarded as unbiased, he represents private interests!
 
explorer70@gmail.com
why should we allow anybody illegal into our waters?
two patrol boats can keep it off coast until they turn away.
else, we all will be ''cooking with Stella'' soon.
watch the movie if have not done it yet,
 
Ernie
I'm a aboriginal Canadian and i say send em home we are in a depression and cannot afford our own poor n unemployed! our working taxpaying base that funds our great nation is shrinking and our social safety programs are taking cuts annually even though taxes across the board are raised to fund everything in our social safety net.
If we open the illegal immigrant floodgates to the 3rd world our social safety net WILL COLLAPSE!! When we let these illegal immigrants land and stay we are sending a messsage to the 3rd world saying "come on over these idiots don't care" and all you leftist creeps arguing for these illegal immigrants will see YOUR taxes raised permanently to house n feed these SOBs while your schools stop buying books for YOUR children along with other cuts we always see whenever the feds take $$$ from one area to fund another!!
 
cameronjamesmcarthur@live.co.uk
i would love to h.g. wells it back a few centuries and see eagle feather and co. mulling over what to do with these european scum trying to get ashore and obtain food , water , and sanctuary...no doubt they would have said fuck off as that is tribal behaviour.
however history and culture has taught us we are merely insecure tenants and people are ,or should be welcome.
 
RickW
Quote:
"Now a senior fellow with the Fraser Institute"
That disqualifies him right then and there!

So what is the problem people, with helping out the less fortunate? We live in one of the richest countries in the world - and here we are bitching about providing a few bucks and lending a helping hand. There wasn't this kind of negativism over the wasted billion+ for "security" in the G8/20 farce.

Could it be because the Tamils are not white?
RickW
 
Ian Weniger in Mt. Pleasant
Canada is not being flooded with refugees in the least. We see far less than a percent of the world's refugees. Our laws on asylum are among the toughest in the world. Canada is facing tough economic times because of massive mistakes by our obscenely wealthy and arrogant rulers, not a few hundred people who come here in cargo ships instead of cruise ships. Why is it that so many people want to blame the most vulnerable members of society when things get tough? That strategy never works for very long, and never works for everyone, even the majority.
 
RickW
Oh....I get it now! We live in the richest country in the world, but few of us actually have these riches, and think we're hard done by, because we keep electing governments who syphon off the goodies.

And so, we look for someone to kick when they are down, to make us feel better.

And we keep on electing governments that pillage the treasury - and always tell us there is nothing for the rank-and-file..........
RickW
 
able seaman
Try this for size.
Illegal Tamil immigrants:
76 in 2009,
492 in 2010,
1130 in 2011,
2570 in 2012.
Pure guesswork. But possible.
Chances one of the 492 is a Tiger? Pretty good.

Only Tigers would fear for their lives, or those who have aided and abetted them. The Sri Lankan govt. doesn't have the resources to monitor every Tamil, so there is a good chance that for anyone who thinks that they are targetted, there is some prior cause.

Why can they not be turned back?
They are totally flouting our laws AIDED AND ABETTED by certain lawyers who will get rich either from the Tamil community, or the public purse. Yes, WE will pay for both govt. and defence lawyers, and translators. And who checks the accuracy and truthfulness of the Tamil translators?

Also, remember that, in jumping the queue they push back thousands of legal immigrants: Who filled in the numerous forms. Had their financial abilities and job suitability checked. Proved that their medical and police records were satisfactory. Paid all the fees and disbursements. And finally waited in line. And waited in line. And waited...

Shame on them, the snakeheads and the ship's officers (who should be fined, jailed, then deported), the ship's owners (who should lose the ship, and be fined heavily), the self-serving lawyers, the Useful Idiot professional whiners, and the TV enablers of the talking head Propagandists.

Why didn't those 'refugees' take a 10 hour ferry ride to their home state of Tamil Nadu on the Indian mainland -- instead of a three month cruise past numerous other possible host countries? Because Canada is a soft touch? Because Canada is richer than Tamil Nadu? That would make them economic migrants and therefore non refugees.

And what about Sri Lanken complicity in this crime?
How does one get a ($1,000,000?) vessel and crew, and gather together 492 'refugees' without the Sri Lanken govt. knowing?

Other recent quotes:
"This level of backlash and mass hysteria is unexpected but not unprecedented", say 'experts'. Who says? This jerk?
Myer Siemiatycki, a professor in immigration settlement studies at Ryerson University: "The Canadian government is partially responsible for stoking this mass hysteria", he added. What mass hysteria? Prof Myer is one of the idiot hysterical loons. He should see a psychiatrist. Soon. He is delusional, and exhibiting the catastrophization syndrome.

Because these are ILLEGAL immigrants, the Tamil community (if they back the illegals) should post a $100,000 per person bond to reimburse our government (i.e. all of us) for all costs incurred, now, and for the next 10 years, including fines for blocking freeways or extorting money for a terrorist group. This is similar to what a sponsor does for a family member who enters Canada legally.

Catherine Dauvergne, RickW and other BHLs who believe
this country should abandon its sovereignty, and throw open our borders to ALL who would come here, regardless of criminal background, communicable/untreatable diseases, knowledge of our languages, etc., should also ante up $100,000 each, and adopt a refugee.
Put YOUR money where your mouth is. Not OUR money.

And RickW is the only racist around here, by raising the colour issue. Everyone else talks about queue jumpers who are bashing legal refugees and other would-be immigrants, by usurping their place in line.
 
RickW
able seaman: You are wrong on so many counts, it's hard to know where to begin.
So let me say just this: Did you rant as much when Irish Terrorists slipped into this country, during Ireland's "Troubles"? Or were they harder to spot?
RickW
 
pwlg
mis-abled seaman states:

Only Tamil Tigers need to fear for their lives as the Sri Lankan government hasn't got the resources to monitor all Tamils.

Just who is he kidding?

Where did the SL gov't get the funds for their giant military offensive against the Tigers and Tamils which included the entire forces of the government with new tanks, new armoured vehicles, new fighter and bomber jets and missles...a military offensive of this size is not conducted on the cheap.

And just where did the SL government get the money to fund such an offensive? So soon after the tsunami where much of the coast and its villages are still in a state of disrepair, where did they get the money? Was disaster relief money diverted to military spending in the guise of security?

Canada took in 30,000 refugees in 2003, this year the Harper gov't has reduced this to 14,000!

We are all immigrants in this land.
 
RickW
pwig: check this link
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2009/feb2009/insl-f21.shtml
"New Delhi's overt support for the Sri Lankan government's communal war is not motivated by concern for the estimated 250,000 civilians trapped in the island's northern war zone. Rather, based on the calculation that the LTTE's military defeat is imminent, the Indian government is seeking ways to consolidate India's economic and strategic position in Sri Lanka."
RickW
 
 
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