Was Mayor Gregor Robertson a victim of McCarthyism?

Long-time readers of the Georgia Straight might have noticed that there is a distinct lack of "unnamed sources" cited in news articles.

There are two reasons for this:

The first is that readers have trouble trusting articles that are based on people who can't be identified.

The second is that our senior editor, Martin Dunphy, lays down the lumber on any writer who tries to pass along information via anonymous sources.

On very rare occasions, an anonymous source will appear in the paper. But the person's identity must be independently confirmed by an editor, usually Dunphy.

Good journalism is often like good science. The facts can be replicated by an independent observer based on what appears in the article. This is impossible to do whenever an unnamed source is cited.

This is why the public should be extremely skeptical when reading reports about a so-called "media enemies" list compiled by Vision Vancouver.

I have seen no evidence that it's true.

The blogger who unveiled this list, which included my name, described it as a "kind of McCarthyism".

The real practitioners of McCarthyism are those who declare without proof that the mayor's office has a list of media enemies, whose lives and careers will be destroyed for not following the Vision Vancouver songsheet.

For all I know, this "unnamed source", if he even exists, has borderline personality disorder and is prone to making things up and creating conflict.

Without knowing his name, I can't make a reasonable assessment.

I have no problem with a story like this appearing if it can be proven. So far, this hasn't occurred anywhere close to my satisfaction.

Update (September 7): This clarification appeared on page 3 of the September 7 edition of 24 hours:

"Last week 24 hours reported an anonymous informant claimed a media 'hit list' was created by a group that included Mayor Gregor Robertson's assistant Kevin Quinlan. At this point in time that information should be considered rumour as we have not been able to prove it to our satisfaction. We continue to investigate and will apprise you of any further developments."

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Comments

spartikus
There's nothing wrong with being a loud and proud partisan.

But you've got to walk the walk and bring the goods.

Content counts.
 
Alex T
If it wern't for the dam boat pepple stealin our jobs we'd have nune of the problems mayor moonbeam and the gay pride parade keep shovin dern our throats.
 
glen p robbins
The regular media in BC has let us down - they have served as a communication vehicle for government - and not properly served as the guard of excess.

If institutions were people - BC's media is a toxic as the BC Liberal government is --- why is this a surprise?

Be straight - fly right - do things properly or do something else---

we all fall down when the media is disreputable and in denial about it.
 
nachum
What a suprise, Mr. Pebble with a cause has turned up again as the snake that poisons everything in Vancouver politics. Why Mr. Pebble? Because scum sticks to pebbles.

Mr. Smith, good to see you distancing yourself from this guy.
 
Josh K.
It seems that reporter Bob Mackin of 24 Hours has already played the role of the Georgia Straight's senior editor, Martin Dunphy in this unfolding story... ie. corroborated the source, n'est pas? ;)
 
Martin de Pateshull
"Good journalism is often like good science."

Oh come off it.
Hack, cough, hack, cough.
"Journalism is not a profession or a trade. It is a cheap catch-all for fuckoffs and misfits – a false doorway to the backside of life, a filthy piss-ridden little hole nailed off by the building inspector, but just deep enough for a wino to curl up from the sidewalk and masturbate like a chimp in a zoo-cage." --Dr. Gonzo.

"The first is that readers have trouble trusting articles that are based on people who can't be identified."

Oh, thank you, Missa Journalist, for telling me how I, as one of the mafs of "readers", thank you oh so much for telling me how I "have trouble." Can anyone be identified? Oh, Charlie, I "know what you mean"---you mean you want the GIVEN NAME and SURNAME on this guy's birth certificate, right? After all, every good little boy and girl knows that they're only ever properly identified after they've coughed up state-granted names and so forth.

"For all I know, this "unnamed source", if he even exists, has borderline personality disorder and is prone to making things up and creating conflict."

If we're going to, you know, simply speculate wildly, perhaps the one who produced the list fears for his life? If these violent socialists are willing to prepare a media "hit list", what else might they be willing to do?
 
Blog?
Can someone provide us with the blog address so we can read this for ourselves? Thanks.
 
RealityCheck
And yet you can brand someone as having a serious mental illness without any medical evidence?

Wow.
 
Kim
@ Charlie Smith: It's good to see ethics in journalism on display. Thank you.

As for the "list", if it is fake, and it has yet to be shown as anything else, it's a damn sleazy way to try to turn local media against the city. Seems someone may have taken a page from the Glenn Beck book of 'How to Create Suspicion and Doubt for Dummies'.
 
RealityCheck
And one more thing. Bob Mackin of 24 hours corroborated the list:

http://vancouver.24hrs.ca/News/2010/09/02/15223056-24hvan.html

If you have any issues with the senior editing decisions made by 24 hours, you should probably take it up with their management.
 
duncan
Why are people saying that Mackin corroborated the list? All he did was write another story based on anonymous sources.
 
trevoir
http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/7059499/
 
nachum
The only people who have offered their credibility for this list are Bob Mackin and Alex T. The "Pebble with a Cause". Problem is, these two don't have any credibility in the 1st place! LOL.
 
Martin de Pateshull
"And yet you can brand someone as having a serious mental illness without any medical evidence?"

You're aware that the Soviets simply _made up_ mental illnesses in order to deal with political dissent, right? Nothing new under the Sun...
 
Martin de Pateshull
"Former Wisconson senator Joe McCarthy was a reckless demogogue who made unsubstantiated allegations against progressives in the 1950s."

Hey, wow, you're letting the Music Kids write those hilarious captions for all your photos now! This is a joke, right? There are no communists, never were, right?
 
Daffy Duck
Hahahaha. This is the most greatest, funniest article and comments I have ever read. A strangely written non-story based on the conspiracy theories of pretend writers at a pretend newspaper that includes psychic advice along with stale celebrity gossip and an unhealthy dose of bad grammar and spelling, generating comments from people who defend Joseph McCarthy! It's all too much entertainment for one day. I'm going for a drink.
 
WildBill
Should not a reporter, like, maybe ask the Mayor if such a list exists? Are not reporters supposed to, um, you know, ask questions? For all you know this "unnamed source" was Deep Throat raised from the dead, but you will never find out until you ask. Discrediting the "source" by suggesting metal instability smacks of McCarthyism, and I while really would like to give you the benefit of the doubt that it was intentional irony, I am sure to be disappointed.
 
Sarge
There is only one man that targets people with personal attacks and we all know who it is. I just feel sorry for folks that get roped in because they eventually get it right in the back.
 
R U Kiddingme
@ Alex T: dey terk muh jerbs!

Oh wait, Alex...Alex T...yes this guy is getting increasingly annoying. I mean, I am annoying but I am not wanting people to know my name or, curiously given the situation, look at my face. He is making it unpleasant to read pugetsoundradio, Bula... I'm almost afraid to check out canucks.com (where, it has to be admitted, baseless rumourmongering and poor writing skills are no impediment)
 
Media Check
Glen P. Robertson tells it like it is unlike the media we count on for the facts. Which is an interesting story in itself that the media can't get the the facts right. It is true I was reading a story the facts changed from the National, to the Sun, to the CBC and kept on changing which I found very disturbing because none of the media could get the story straight.
 
spartikus
I now realize Alex is auditioning for Sun TV

http://thestar.blogs.com/politics/2010/09/journalism-petitions-and-activ...

Genius!
 
RealityCheck
You're all still missing the mark.

Bob Mackin in his article SPOKE WITH THE SOURCE. He is a real journalist who has broken many more stories than Charlie Smith, the blogger. His stories have to go through a vetting process that's more thorough than this blog or the Straight in general.

I'm quite sure the Mayor and his party are quite well-equipped with lawyers and will sue 24 hours if they printed falsehoods that couldn't be proven in a court of law. After all, it's their only recourse if the allegations are false.

But if they don't sue, I guess we know the truth...
 
R U Kiddingme
@spartikus

I'm thinking of auditioning too, if this other gig I am working on don't pan out. Fer cereal. I mean, I can do invective, insinuation, mindless appeals to nationalism.... But I won't! I am all about saying R U Kiddingme! And then presenting something mildly different and trollish but carefully parsed to avoid overcommitting. That will make me seem relatively balanced and an antidote to the charge of being a fully right wing media outlet! Ha ha ha ha!!!
 
spartikus
Mackin's story only corroborates the existence of an "ex-Vision insider" and the email. It doesn't confirm the accuracy of the insider's story. The email remains heavily redacted.

Tsakumis promised the insider was going to go on the record. This has now been downgraded to a promise of an interview where the insider's identity will remain concealed. Ostensibly to protect him/her from retaliation...though I would think someone who was an "ex" insider would be free from such things.
 
glen p robbins
Sometimes the political cost of challenging the libel - if it is that isn't work it. This is supported by the apparent evidence of credibility issues -which if the case - would ultimately bring down the credibility of the politicos to the level of those players -- they don't want to be involved with.
 
 
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