Large residential densities planned for South Cambie raise concerns

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      Retired city planner Trish French says that she’s enjoying a very nice life. It’s not that she didn’t like doing what she did before, but 35 years or so in the business was plenty.

      Because of her background, the assistant director of planning in Vancouver until 2009 is naturally drawn to development issues. The city’s plan for Cambie Street is one of these. She also happens to live near the strip where the Canada Line runs. It’s also where the city plans to put more residents.

      When she was interviewed, French hadn’t decided whether or not she’d go to City Hall on Monday (March 26). On the evening of that day, council will hold a public hearing on the second of three major development projects at Cambie and Marine Drive. That’s where the Canada Line makes its last stop in Vancouver before crossing over to Richmond, a place that the Cambie Corridor Plan calls Marine Landing.

      French has concerns over the large residential densities being eyed for this area. She had suggested that a development plan for the entire Marpole community may be needed first.

      But with council’s approval of the Cambie plan on May 9, 2011, there wasn’t much faith left that future developments there will somehow be downscaled. “When council approved the Cambie Corridor policies for that area, they basically hard-lined the heights and densities in that plan in a high level of detail,” French told the Georgia Straight by phone. “And I don’t think council is open to considering the kinds of more moderate heights and densities that the community wanted.”

      On March 17, hundreds of people lined up to buy the condos that have yet to be built for the first Marine Landing area project okayed by council. It’s on the southeast corner of Cambie and Marine. Council approved 418 condos for the PCI Developments project called Marine Gateway. It will see two residential towers of 26 and 35 storeys, and a 14-storey office building rising beside the Canada Line station there. The condos sold out in hours.

      At the March 26 meeting, council will hear speakers from the public regarding an application to rezone the northeast corner of Cambie and Marine, starting from 64th Avenue. Intracorp S.W. Marine Limited Partnership wants to build 441 condo units and 110 market rental units. The development involves two towers of 31 and 25 storeys. These will sit on podiums of seven and five storeys, respectively, of commercial and office spaces.

      French said she believes that based on the principles laid out in the Cambie Corridor Plan, council will approve this project.

      “Given that, I think what that project needs still is significant improvement at the public ground level,” French said. “It needs a much more active treatment with more active pedestrian retail uses at the north end, specifically, and a much more useful and engaging landscape treatment in the setback.” French added that council needs to ensure that the development will produce a pedestrian-friendly, safe, and interesting connection from 64th Avenue down to Marine Drive. “They have to have eyes on the street,” she said.

      According to Marpole resident Janet Fraser, there is a strong desire in the neighbourhood to see more retail services to make that part of Cambie an interesting place on which to walk, and not just a sidewalk with private green space.

      Fraser, a key organizer in the community group Marpole Matters, also said that locals want to have a say where development fees and amenity contributions from Intracorp will go. “I don’t think the city has really asked how it would be spent,” Fraser told the Straight by phone. “We’re not saying it should be spent on this or that. We’re just saying there needs to be a process for the city to make this decision.”

      More towers are coming to Marine Landing. Across from the Intracrop development on the northwest corner of Cambie and Marine Drive is another prime location. Wesgroup Properties has big plans for that as well.

      Comments

      5 Comments

      RF

      Mar 21, 2012 at 11:30am

      So, we're all still pretending that neighbourhood residents have a say in any of this new high density bonanza? Instead of all of this time-wasting pretense, the city should just make an "approved" rubber stamp for any of their pals who want to slap up another shoddy pile of glass and metal.

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      Tough Love

      Mar 21, 2012 at 1:50pm

      Welcome to Vancouver, nobody is safe from developers.

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      Bill McCreery1

      Mar 22, 2012 at 11:18pm

      " there wasn’t much faith left that future developments there will somehow be downscaled. “When council approved the Cambie Corridor policies for that area, they basically hard-lined the heights and densities in that plan in a high level of detail,” French told the Georgia Straight by phone. “And I don’t think council is open to considering the kinds of more moderate heights and densities that the community wanted.”"

      If something Council purportedly will possibly do is wrong, Council needs to be told by knowledgeable citizens in no uncertain terms that such a proposal is not acceptable. If citizens want a continued role in the planning process they need to be prepared to publicly state their position. To acquiesce and fiddle with the details is not enough.

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      G. deAuxerre

      Mar 24, 2012 at 2:13pm

      French says “I don’t think council is open to considering ... more moderate heights and densities that the community wanted.”

      On two buildings alone, 11,000 people registered to buy, many camped out to secure their place in line, and in a 4-hour period, almost 500 homes were sold. Other buildings have received similar attention. This is exactly what these new members of the community need and they are the future of this community.

      Ms. French needs to retire her antiquated views maintaining low densities, as current urbanists have a much wider scope of 'community.' Her attitude of restricting that to existing owners is what is still practised with one particular land use; cemetaries.

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      Justavoter

      Apr 5, 2012 at 12:41am

      Mr. G. deAuxerre, reading your comments I am now reassured that these massive tower developments are green, progressive, and urbanist, even though at first glance they appear to be some of the most appalling energy leaking cookie cutter designs fostered on a city. From your note, I'm also reassured that this has nothing to do with developers making money. As for buildings selling out in 40 hours I'm comforted that none of these were speculators continuing to drive up prices into the stratosphere and equally glad that the rapid sell off wasn't staged. Anyway, who needs urban planning, which just gets in the way of our big new shiny future. Thanks for allaying all these fears, which were clearly antiquated. I think I've seen the Vision!

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