Richmond residents outraged because they can't read Chinese signs

You know how some people will complain if there's anybody speaking Chinese (they usually can't tell the difference between Cantonese and Mandarin) on the bus? Well, there's apparently 1,000 of these "totally not racist" people living in Richmond.

Local residents Kerry Starchuk and Ann Merdinyan have managed to gather that many signatures on a petition asking Richmond council to take action that would limit the amount of Chinese characters on signs in the city. According to the Richmond News, the pair plan to make a presentation to city hall on Monday (March 18).

For Starchuk, it's all purportedly about "increasing racial harmony". This from someone who reportedly refuses to use the northern part of No. 3 Road because of all the Chinese signs there.

Indeed, the following quote from Starchuk is so ironic it's almost funny:

If this is our Canadian identity, then it’s not very inclusive is it?

This is not cultural harmony because I have no idea what these signs, advertising and the real estate papers are saying.

We value Richmond and we value our Canadian identity and I hope that comes across with our presentation.

Starchuk told the Richmond News she's approached councillors before and didn't get anywhere. They want Richmond to require 70 percent of any sign in the city to carry English and/or French (similar to the Aberdeen Centre's private policy for its stores).

Let's hope city council says 再见 to Starchuk and Merdinyan and sends them away disappointed.

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Makes sense to me.
Every immigrant should AT LEAST integrate into their adopted society to ensure cohesion is maintained.
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Ken Lawson
Do not be surprised if this gets much bigger politcians are about to lose their jobs at every level if Canadians do not get there way
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sad
sad day when this paper allows space for mr. hui to call those folks in richmond racist simply because they want to be able to read the sign on no. 3 road.
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Sum yung gui
This is Canada you idiot "fuck you" too,Charlie chan
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Babych
By the sounds of it Stephen Hui is "totally not racist" as well.
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John Yang
What you don't seem to realize Mr. Hui, is that Starchuk's ancestors were persecuted before they came to Canada. All Ukranians had to learn to speak english, and whether or not they opened a business, their skills had to take on the culture of the country that embraced them as immigrants.

Your typical asian arrogance and aggresiveness is obvious in your sarcastic remarks. To say nothing of the obvious strain that the asian influx has placed on Canada's resources.

What you are obviously unaware of is how the historical sense of fairness of native born canadians is confronted with the in-your-face attitudes of rich spoiled asian students who are loud and obnoxious and don't give a crap about the country or rules of the land they study in regardless of where that happens to be.

30 years ago there was very little in the way of asian gangs, bullies, and the total disregard for littering, spitting in public, and all the other quaint cultural issues that we can thank most of our asian and eurasian immigrants for introducing us to.

Granted many injustices were perpetrated on my asian ancestors who worked on the CPR at the turn of the 20th century, but so too did most European immigrants suffer especially Ukranians under the corrupt conglomerates and bosses of that time.

Lastly, all the sabre-rattling that China has been doing lately with countries and cultures it doesn't approve of or wants to simply assimilate (Yugurs, Tibetans, Japanese, etc...) doesn't make canadians any more tolerant of asians blowing off the need to learn english and act according to the customs of this country.

My grand parents and my wife's parents (Ukranian) both learned English immediately upon arriving in Canada, this is something that our most recent arrivals could care-less about accomplishing.

My wife was recently confronted by an asian (Chinese-Mandarin) woman who swore at her, called her stupid, and claimed that there was nothing she could say to stop her or her friends, because as she put it; "...we are taking over just like we have everywhere else. We have the money, you don't, you're stupid Canadians."

So, is it really any wonder that all the horn honking, angry yelling immigrants have made a bad name for us all?

Not really, the law of the land is English, the custom of the land is english, so, make the signs readable, stop selling shark fins, get with it.
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Jackal
One question is, if the sign has English and Chinese on it.
Would she go there and do any business there anyways?
If it was a Asian hair salon, I don't think she would get her hair done there.
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A Visible Minority
I don't necessarily think it is ?racist? to want English on signs. I think we should accommodate the main demographic, and if its Chinese, then sure, there's no problem with Chinese signs. However, I think the issue here isn't the fact that there are signs that are Chinese, but that there is no English on them. English and French are our national languages, and should be on all?or at least most?signs in Canada. The same applies for any country. The national language is the national language. Accommodations should be made accordingly for a certain area?s demographic, but it?s not racist to ask for English on signs when the national language is English.
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Carolyn Yu
The sign in the article says "We can speak China". Now you know.
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Jimmy Chan
Articles like this get under my skin. You are entitled to your opinion, but I'm here to tell you it's wrong. This is not an us against them mentality. If you were a proud Canadian, you would be behind these people, instead of calling them racists. Being half chinese, english only speaking, PROUD Canadian, I am fully in support of some sort of bylaw that requires signage to have at least the english equivalent written on it. The point of becoming Canadian is to adopt the language and Canadian culture, not treat the city as some sort of inclusive asian-only club. If you do not see how this would increase racial harmony, you are blind my friend. Perhaps you should drive through Richmond, and for once, pretend you have no ideas what the signs say. How would that make you feel? welcome? would that make you feel Canadian? Last time I checked our official languages are English and French.
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James G
Signs, advertising and real estate news? So, private buisness responding to it's niche market is something government is now something with which government is supposed to interfere? An interesting position to take but a little ultraleft from my more centrist viewpoint.

An important part of 'our Canadian identity' is knowing what that is. We chose the 'mosaic' rather than the 'melting pot' model in immigration. Has no-one ever visited Toronto and seen the plethora of ethinc neighbourhoods and taken some pride it's ultimate cohesion? What these petitioners are looking for isn't 'Canadian identity' at all. What it is beckons to them just south of the 49th parallel.

I am not certain if the originators could have been inspired by the casual disregard shown by the BC Liberals to racial harmony but that likely did not help.

Wherever immigrants come from and make them selves Canadian, they mostly are supported in doing this in their own way and that policy has been in no way a failure. If, for example, Armenian or Ukranian neighbourhoods grow to a size in Richmond where they have private business serving their customers in this way, I would be quite accepting, as I suspect, would nearly everyone else.
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cate
Mr. Hui sounds racist.
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cate
@ Jackal, I went into the asian Crystal Mall to a watch store to get a new battery for my watch. I stood there for around 10 minutes. I was completely ignored. It was a small store, he knew I was there. I eventually just left.
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DavidH
Ask somebody outside of Quebec what they think of Quebec language law, and you'll probably get a howl of protest. They will say, how DARE those Francophones insist on French.

And now people like Stephen Hui are saying that English-speaking B.C. should simply accept the encroachment of Asian languages? Really?

Take your Chinese signs to Montreal and see how far you get. In B.C., at least, we're prepared to consider multiple languages - not one above all others.
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Get Real
Mr. Hui, you should be fired you racist arrogant a-hole.
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janice
As far as the Chinese speakers on the bus, if they weren't so loud it would be fine. Anyone who speaks loudly on a bus is rude period. My roommate goes to the sauna at Bonsor rece centre and almost every time he goes in there, to sit and relax after swimming, he's subjected to loud Chinese conversations back and forth over his head as if he didn't exist. Someone else in the comments mentioned spitting. He's right on. I can't say how many times I've had to walk through a gauntlet of young asian males spitting as I'm trying to walk through or down a set of stairs. It's absolutely disgusting. You can go ahead and call me a racist. It doesn't frighten me. We are being made to keep our mouths shut in the name of racism when our country and heritage is literally being spit on. Asians and people from the Middle East get Canadian passports, some of them go back to their home countries and then fly back when they need a medical procedure. And if I complain about this, with all the cutbacks we are having to make to our medical system because of the financial situation, I am a racist. They use the racist card until they're entrenched enough to laugh and tell us to go eff ourselves -as another commenter already mentioned, while we sit here and watch our country become unrecognizable.
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Siusaidh
No doubt the complainers are fluent in one of the Coast Salish languages.

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Gerry Fakechinesename
Love these comments!

"Some Chinese person was rude to me once! So I know all 'Asians' are terrible people!"
"People talking loudly in Chinese hurts my poor little ears!"
"I saw a sign in Chinese, then I started crying blood!"

Idiots.
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Janice
@ Gerry

You're the idiot for thinking it's that simple. Siusaidh's comment is closer to the mark.
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Mike
There's not enough English signs in China, think they'll do anything about it?
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