Seven transit peeves from a new parent in Vancouver

We all know that taking public transit around Metro Vancouver can easily turn into a bit of a gong show, especially during the morning rush. That’s partly due to our inadequate TransLink system, but mostly because of the maddening behaviour of many transit riders. However, try boarding a bus with a baby, especially with a stroller, and your frustration is likely to be lifted to new heights.

Now, it’s not all bad. Most people aren’t assholes, and plenty of considerate folks are encountered while travelling from Point A to B. Plus, a lot of bus drivers are both kind and helpful when it comes to strollers, and most SkyTrain elevators surprisingly don’t stink of piss. But this list is about those people who make riding the bus, well, not fun for new parents like myself.

Here’s seven things that have pissed me and my partner off while using transit in Vancouver with a stroller.

1. Able-bodied, babyless people hogging the courtesy seats

Sometimes the courtesy seats at the front of the bus are full of people. People who just stare idiotically at you and your stroller as you approach and then ask them politely to move. These are probably the same folks who pretend to fall asleep when an elderly person or a wheelchair user needs the accessible space. Inconsiderate types who begrudge the right of babies to access public transportation—or who just don’t have a clue.

2. Bus riders who give parents dirty looks when their baby cries

Babies cry. It’s not like there’s an on-off switch. My kid isn’t out to annoy you. He’s just hungry, tired, hot, cold, and/or upset that the bus has stopped moving. Imagine if you were an infant surrounded by scowling bus riders—how would you feel? Just be thankful he’s not projectile vomiting.

3. Smokers lighting up at bus stops

What’s with people sidling up to my infant’s stroller and proceeding to light a cigarette? There’s plenty of room down the sidewalk. Besides, City of Vancouver bylaws prohibit smoking in “enclosed or partially enclosed” bus shelters. It’s time to put up no-smoking signs, city hall.

4. People who rush to beat parents with strollers onto the bus

Look, we’re going have to get on eventually. And when we do, we’re just going to have to kick you out of that courtesy seat you snagged. Charging onto the bus before the stroller-pushing parent has a chance to board isn’t going to get you to your Asshole Club meeting any faster.

5. Aisle-blockers who seem to think a stroller can magically pass through them

The bus might be full of empty seats, but there’s often someone who insists on standing up front behind the driver. Someone who doesn’t want to move for anything, especially not a stroller. Someone who, after being asked nicely to clear out, seems to think you can just squeeze by. Sorry about your foot. Just kidding.

6. Transit riders who think my kid’s stroller is a handrail

Yeah, I understand you’re supposed to hold on to something while the bus is in motion or you may need to grab a handhold when you stand up from your seat. Just don’t make that something my baby’s stroller. Or you may have my partner’s wrath to deal with.

7. Bus drivers and passengers offering unsolicited child-rearing advice

For some reason, taking a baby on transit makes you a magnet for advice—some of it interesting, most of it plain annoying. Everyone’s got some secret recipe for ensuring your infant gets a full night’s sleep. (One driver practically made us promise we’d Google “dream feeding” before we disembarked.) Trust me, if a baby isn’t sleeping through the night, the last thing the parents want to hear is how your three-month-old sleeps 12 hours straight.

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jonny .
ugh. i hate entitled parents. especially ones with gigantic strollers. if you are going to be using your stroller on public transit, get one that is a decent size. and shut your dumb kid up. a little noise is fine, but many parents do nothing with a kid throwing a fit.
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Emma
Coming from child-hating, transit-is-for-the-great-unwashed San Francisco, being on Translunk with a child is utterly glorious.,Truly. You've no idea how much worse it could be.
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adam gee
jonny: please specify the difference between a gigantic stroller and one that is a decent size. and just because a kid is whining it doesnt mean said child is dumb. by that reasoning i could assume that you too, are a dumb sh_t.
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Emily
The "right of babies to access public transportation"? Am I being punk'd right now?
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Omar_S
Many of these issues are true for non-baby toting passengers as well. Along with people talking loudly on cells, using a spare seat to store their bag, crowding the rear exit, or the skeevy sort who pester the driver and ride for free. What I don't understand is the parents I see travelling with strollers or small kids during morning rush. I hear you chatting. You're not going to an appointment. You don't have to be anywhere at this hour. You're going to the Aquarium or the Park. Watch another hour of Sesame Street, let the crowds diminish, and save yourself the drama. No excuse for a lot of the conduct we all experience, but sounds like you're not exactly part of the solution. As for the smoking, deal with it. I have no faith in this tale of people essentially blowing smoke in your kid's face. I've seen mothers hassle smokers well out of the shelter. If you want your kid breathing only the finest fresh air, leave the city entirely. The exhaust fumes from city traffic are doing harm too - are you going to ask the city to go back to horses and carriages?
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Martin Dunphy
Omar_S:

Just because you have seen "mothers hassle smokers well out of the shelter" doesn't mean that a), all parents do that, and, b), that smokers don't break the law and smoke in the shelters (I see it all the time).

And just because the actual bus-stop sign may be a few metres away from the shelter doesn't mean that a smoker should light up next to a crowd of people standing in line waiting for a bus.

Common sense, common courtesy, and everyone will get along fine together, smokers and nonsmokers.
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Your shat stanks too
I'm sorry, but if your oversized stroller is the only thing I have to hold on to in order to stop myself from being propelled into an old lady or worse, your baby, then I am going to hold onto it. For shorter people, some of the handrails are quite high, especially in the front. If you want other riders to cut you slack, then you'd better be willing to do the same.
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mm
Having a child is a choice. Growing old or having a physical disability is not. It is not the same thing so don't compare them. Damn entitled breeders.
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RP
I take the bus every day and I've never seen a single smoker anywhere near a stroller. Sounds a little like hyperbole coming from another hand-wringing, over-sensitive parent. But sure, let that baby breathe in that sweet downtown exhaust.

As for the rest of the screed - yeah, people can suck on buses. The only way to deal with it is to call them on it, as in, "Can you move your bag from the empty seat?" "How about losing the two foot extension behind you that you call a backback?"

Jerks deserve blunt, straightforward jerkiness right back at 'em. If you're expecting courtesy and sensitivity just because you're wrangling your sports utility stroller onto a crowded bus, guess again.Welcome to city living. Everyone has their problems and frustrations and nitpicks. I myself instinctively make way for strollers, but I have to admit that I'm not crazy about the put-upon, wincing-faced attitude of a lot of the parents. You're not that special.
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Be a Man
Yeah, because it's so easy to ride the bus with a baby stroller in other cities. Name one dense city in the world where it's easy to take a baby stroller onto a bus. I now live in a city in Asia in which I can't even push my stroller down the sidewalk. Do you know what I do? I shrug and make adjustments because the city I live in isn't going to bend to my life.
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Megumi
At Disney World, strollers have to be folded up when on their shuttles. I don't see why it can't be the same on our transit; it makes everyone happier.
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Ck24
Waiting for the article "7 transit peeves from a homeless person carrying a garbage bag of cans"
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scathie
This "article" has less to do with the state of public transit and more about how completely unprepared this author is for parenthood. Yeah, it's tough. Everyone knows it already. Stop whining. We get it.

All this does is make me want to stop reading the Georgia Straight.
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Mr_Buzzer
As a retired bus driver, I can only rejoice that I never again have to listen to those whiny, bickering passengers as I blast by them in my car or on my motorcycle. With my envied pension plan, I will be able to afford cabs when I am unable to drive. Reading the article and comments has reaffirmed my decision to take early retirement .
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Rebecca
I'm the other kind of parent. My 3-year old gets pushed around in a small foldable stroller and my 10 month-old gets carried hanging from the front of my body. When we ride the bus, we take up two seats max. I get peeved and believe it's unnecessary and inconsiderate that other parents believe their 15 pound child needs to be pushed around in a stroller that takes up three seats. There is no need for strollers that large and Translink should not allow them on the buses, especially during peak times. I have in fact even moved out of the courtesy area to the back of the bus in order to let huge strollers on. I also do not ride at peak times unless it's absolutely necessary because crowded buses are a hassle. The only problem with public transit in Vancouver is that it caters to self-absorbed, entitled "Helicopter" parents that are going to raise like-minded kids.
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Natty
You know, you might have some legitimate concerns, but complaining about people getting on before you and and your stroller is easily justified. It's assumed you and the stroller will have a nice space up at the front. So let the childless plebs crowd into the back before you spend 5 minutes getting on and settling in. That my friend, is courtesy.
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RFinn
Some of these points are completely valid, but the entitled sentiment of a few of them kind of ruins the argument as a whole:

1. Able-bodied, babyless people hogging the courtesy seats

Absolutely. After a long day it's tough sometimes not to grab any open seat, but the people who don't vacate them when appropriate are jerks.

2. Bus riders who give parents dirty looks when their baby cries

If your baby has a right to cry, I have a right to roll my eyes. I like kids, I have a ton of nieces and nephews I love and plan to have my own someday. But when I'm half-exhausted fighting my way to/from work, a baby crying is just another thing to deal with. I know it's not your fault, so I'll deal, but I can't stop an involuntary reaction. Most parents at least try to quiet their child and give an apologetic look. You should have some empathy and do the same.

3. Smokers lighting up at bus stops

This is awful behaviour, but I'm pretty sure it's few and far between. I'm a smoker as are many of my friends and I don't know anyone who wouldn't stand in the rain rather than smoke near a child. Either you've run into people who are just plain jerks, or you're over-embellishing this.

4. People who rush to beat parents with strollers onto the bus

At the end of the day, I'm tired, my feet hurt, and I just want to sit down if I possibly can. Why not let the quick-moving people on first instead of making them stand there while you slowly go about your business? You can either inconvenience 1 person (you) by a few minutes to let others on first, or inconvenience 20 so you can go first.

5. Aisle-blockers who seem to think a stroller can magically pass through them

Agreed. Sit down, move back, just don't block the aisle. This is asinine.

6. Transit riders who think my kid’s stroller is a handrail

As the commenter above stated, if it's a choice between holding the stroller or taking a tumble. Sorry, deal with it. What harm is there in it besides you being affronted someone touched your stroller?

7. Bus drivers and passengers offering unsolicited child-rearing advice

I have no experience on this issue, but generally someone chatting to you about your/their kids seems pretty friendly. Your eye-roll when people do this isn't that much different from the eye-roll you get when your kid cries. Friendly people trying honestly to help you out are low on my list of transit pet peeves.


Transit can suck, so everyone needs to work together to make it suck less. You deciding you should be entitled to better treatment just because you have kids doesn't solve anything. It's just you deciding that you have a better reason to do all the things that the entitled jerks you mention above do.

Get a smaller stroller, stay off transit at rush hour if you can, be polite but firm to people who smoke around your kid/hog the priority seats, and get some empathy for your fellow travellers if you expect them to have any for you.
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Ellis Worthington
I absolutely hate it when people wear cologne and perfume on transit. That stuff causes cancer. You're forcing the rest of us to breathe carcinogens just so you can be deluded into thinking you "smell pretty." Well, you don't smell pretty at all. You smell like a chemical wasteland that makes my sinus burn and gives me headaches. Sometimes riding the bus is an exercise in chemical warfare.

Please, please don't wear too much cologne or perfume. Just a tiny bit is all you need. It's supposed to complement your natural odour, not overwhelm it. Or you could just take a shower.

Some people are sensitive to those kinds of chemicals so please be courteous of people who react badly to perfume and cologne.
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Dan Carkner
With regards to #1, don't forget that there are young people with invisible disabilities who might need those seats as well. I don't deny that there are many entitled people who hog those seats, but you can't necessarily know just by looking at someone. They could very well have a medical condition that you aren't aware of.
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Chip
OMG is this for real?? breeders get over yourselves. That child is the center of YOUR world, and no one else's. I'll show courtesy to whom I choose: the elderly and the disabled. I could care less about women and their offspring in oversized strollers. You are an annoyance to everyone. Solution??? STOP BREEDING
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