Three architectural firms shortlisted to design new UBC Student Union Building

Is SUB going to be located in downtown Vancouver where we have adequate transit? It is really quite inconsiderate for UBC to ignore TransLink’s Mickey Mouse B-Line service wreaking havoc on residents along the B-Line route. TransLink and UBC have received enough complaints to have done something about the diesel buses long ago. I think that UBC has a duty of care to the Point Grey community to put the screws to TransLink to remove those stinking noisy and polluting diesel buses operating on trolley bus routes!

Moreover, who authorized the use of diesel buses on trolley bus routes at the COV? What kind of crap COV engineers do we have in this city? Build SUB downtown where it belongs and move the campus there; too, if you are going to be jerks allowing TransLink to operate its shitty diesel buses to UBC on trolley bus routes. Wankers.

It would be much more sustainable and "green" to renovate and expand the current SUB than to construct a whole new building wedged inbetween the knoll and aquatic centre.

@SUB: waaah! waah! "N.I.M.B.Y."!

Though I'll give you props and respect for putting "duty of care" in the same statement as "jerks" and "wankers". That level of intelligent discourse will surely turn the tide in your favour.

@ Joe 1982, when you have the UBC and COV siding with TransLink on diesel bus noise and pollution, we have a problem in this city. Providing transit doesn't mean running roughshod over residents on bus routes and I'm not overly concerned about winning over jerks who think, otherwise, and who turn a blind eye to it like they did on Cambie Street.

@SUB belongs downtown in Vancouver / SUB belongs downtown in Vancouver: I disagree. This IS a popularity contest. Hence the voting buttons. And I think if UBC, CoV, and Translink are on the same side, that mean's there's some sort of agreement at an institutional level, and I don't think that providing bus service through a neighbourhood that grew up with UBC is where they'll ever disagree. Sorry you're kept up at night by bus service; if I were you, I would either move or mount a campaign for change during the next local election. Oh, wait. You probably tried that already - how'd that go?

Next item of business: sentences. Please form them more coherently. As for you conflating Cambie Street, blind eyes, and diesel bus service, I think you need to try again at making that all make sense.

/rant

@ Joe 1982, a few hundred people did go down the petition route to remove the diesel buses which really shouldn't be operating on trolley bus routes. One COV engineer told us to move if we didn't like the noise and pollution, just like you. Do you work for the COV, too?

It seems as if you are an incompetent engineer at the COV and allow TransLink to operate diesel buses on trolley bus routes you can always blame the victims, nobody gives a crap in this city. I also lived in Seattle for five years. When King Transit tried to operate diesel buses on the trolley bus route in Capital Hill, council told transit to remove its stinking buses. I guess when you are a spineless bunch of worms in Vancouver, you can't do that.

@ Joe 1982, slight correction, it was Capitol Hill in Seattle, and here is the link where the councilor chairing transportation took it upon himself to stand up for the residents:

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/135164_metro15.html

In Vancouver, Cadman who held the transportation position, basically passed the buck and nothing has been done about the diesel buses on the trolley bus routes because the COV and TransLink are buddies.

A few hundred people? Really. That's outstanding. Good for them, and you. Now, as for the thousands of people who attend UBC on a daily basis as either students or employees, I'm sure they'll love going on slower, less frequent service via electric trolley buses. Glad you understand the needs of the entire community. Again, apologies for the noisy, loud, fast, convenient bus service that prevents thousands of people from driving through your neighbourhood because a trolley bus can't get them to class in time. Clearly this was a malicious decision by "incompetent engineers" at the CoV and TransLink to keep you from getting a decent nights sleep, rather than being the result of studying similar situations, long-term objectives, and the needs of multiple stake holders.

My best suggestion? Move. No, you don't have to leave your community. Move one block back from Broadway, where the B-line is no longer audible. I know, I know, it will be a tough transition. But who knew that living on the main thoroughfare would be so loud and smelly.

P.S. Thank you for being more careful with your sentence structure.

@Joe 1982, I'm not an accomplished English major and never graduated from UBC, so I do the best that I can with my limited abilities. The rights of transit users do not take precedence over the rights of residents along bus routes, at least in Seattle, Brisbane, Edmonton and other cities where engineers take their code of ethics seriously.

You are right, I should move and TransLink should pay for the inconvenience and harm caused by its negligent use of toxic spewing diesel buses which have doubled the cancer and asthma risks of everyone within 50 m of the B-Line route. TransLink is operating diesel buses on trolley bus routes so that some dickhead can buy diesel buses for trolley bus routes to make up for the lousy way that he runs transit, while the COV engineers do nothing as they did on Cambie Street, when TransLink saved money by open-cutting Cambie Street to the detriment of businesses which went broke as a result.

@ the ever changing name:

Some people might say that a few hundred was enough. In this case, however, I would say that 3 diesel-powered bus-loads of commuters bound for UBC would be enough to counter-act your few hundred petitioners. In the morning rush hour, that would be about 15 minutes worth of buses.

You don't need a degree in english OR to have attended UBC to respect the english language. So thank you for exercising your duty of care...

I think you're taking transit a little too seriously if you're going to use the terms "rights" and "ethics" regarding the design of a transit system. Public transit is a privelage, not a right. Education, and access to it, however, is a right. Don't get me wrong. I won't use a right to education to trample your other rights. Like property ownership. You have the right to own title to property, and to use it within the limits determined by local authorities. Your rights to that property, however, don't extend beyond the property line, nor do they entitle you to ruin an entire system for others who use it to their gain. It also doesn't make it reasonable for you to expect the UBC campus to be moved, en masse, downtown, with it's thirty thousand students and five- to ten-thousand employees. If that were even possible, it takes balls the size of our sun to expect thirty or forty thousand people to bend to your wants. I'd recommend, if this is a big enough problem for you, that you should move. And no, I don't think anyone owes you anything for this imposition. Things fall apart. Things change. If you want to cry about it, that's fine, but don't expect a handout. You moved to a gentrified, densified neighbourhood on major routes to the provinces largest secondary institution, one which has been there since 1915, and which will be there long after you've given up fighting the windmills.

As for your fixation on diesel buses...you're right, of course. Well, partly right; diesel fumes are carcinogenic. Diesel does increase risks of cancer. But double? Sounds like a B.S. statistic based on simplified methods of analysis to me; I highly doubt the effect is that dramatic when you're already living in an urban area rife with exhaust from cars, jets overhead, and the self-congratulatory flatulence of granola eating, yoga-posing, UBC-hating residents of Point Gray-UBC.