The Window Seat: Some people just aren't cut out to be TransLink bus drivers in Vancouver

(The following is a write-up of an incident that occurred on a city bus today [July 6]. It will be sent to TransLink as a formal complaint. I regret the length, but I wanted to make sure all the relevant details were included. Perhaps it will generate some discussion about the suitability of certain people to be employed in a job as stressful as that of a bus driver in a large city.)

So there I was on the #9 Alma bus, westbound on Broadway, just about three hours ago. Once or twice a month I have to pick up some medications at the Children’s Hospital pharmacy for one of my kids, and this entails my taking four (yes) buses to work on those mornings.

The #9 is the last of those four buses, and I pick it up at Broadway and Oak; my destination is the Straight building at Broadway and Pine, a bit too far to walk when you are 45 minutes late for work, even on a beautiful day like today.

A stop or two into the westward trip today, I noticed, without paying full attention, that the driver was speaking to a few people outside the front door. By the time I was alert enough to the situation to focus on the exchange, I heard the driver say that “the bus is too full” and they would have to wait for another bus.

Well, the bus was actually only about half-full. I was standing near the rear exit, but there were still some seats available. That’s when I saw that the people outside had an infant in a stroller.

If there are already two strollers (or wheelchairs or passengers with walkers) taking up the designated seating areas (for such mobility aids, the elderly, and those requiring assistance, etcetera) upfront, the driver would be justified in saying what he did.

But if there aren’t, he is supposed to request that those occupying said clearly marked seats vacate them to make room.

There were no strollers, wheelchairs, walkers, people with canes, or even very elderly people in that front third of the bus. There were about six people in those seats, and there was one middle-aged guy with a box about metre long, but nothing that would be an impediment to those people getting aboard.

But the driver shut the door in their faces and moved on. I made a mental note of the bus number and time (#2235, at about 11:05 a.m.) in order to shoot off a complaint email to TransLink about the incident. I believe in being aggressive about such things in order to let drivers know that their actions are noticed and noted. Most Vancouver bus drivers are courteous and diligent in their obligations to their less fortunate or vulnerable passengers. When they are not, though, they deserve to have it brought to their notice so it doesn’t happen again. (Between genuinely crowded buses and cranky drivers, depending on the route and time of day, a parent and baby could be stranded for quite some time, even hours.)

A stop or two later, three or four people waiting to step off the rear exit had to yell at the driver when the door failed to open and he started to pull out of the stop. Now, this happens all the time. Sometimes it’s the driver’s fault; sometimes it’s the passengers’ fault for not pushing the door strip so marked.

This time, though, the driver yelled back, rudely, that it was the passengers’ fault.

The two incidents hadn’t gone unnoticed by some of the riders besides myself. One man seated to my left yelled out loudly that it was the driver’s fault, that he should have let the people with the stroller at the previous stop board the bus, and that he shouldn’t even be allowed to drive a bus. He capped it off by stating that the driver was, in his opinion, “an asshole”. A few people muttered in agreement.

That got the driver’s attention. He looked back in the mirror, pulled in to the next stop (Hemlock Street), then stood up and yelled at the guy to get off his bus. When he didn’t move, the driver yelled that everyone might as well get off because he was parking it and calling security. To make his point clearer, he pointed to the offending passenger.

Except he wasn’t pointing to the guy next to me. He was pointing at me.

When I said, thinking that either he or I had made a mistake, “You mean me?” he said “Yes.” I quickly told him that I hadn’t said a word. He told me to get off. I said, louder this time, that I wasn’t moving a step and that he should be a little more sure of himself before accusing someone, losing his temper, and inconveniencing every passenger on his bus. I had medication that required refrigeration and it was uncomfortably hot on the bus. I was also getting later for work by the minute.

Other people stood up for me, but he refused to listen. I appealed to the guy who had spoken out to admit he had said it and just file a complaint with TransLink or the supervisor when he came along. He wouldn’t do it, perhaps a bit overwhelmed by the furor his remark had caused. A departing young guy yelled at him that he should “man up” or he was as much an asshole as the driver. It had no effect.

By this time, the bus had emptied and the passengers were milling about outside, waiting for the next bus. Some walked over to Granville Street close by. I noticed a few others, including the original commenter, speaking to a transit supervisor who had pulled up ahead of the bus and was listening to their stories, with the driver hovering nearby and offering his two cents’ worth.

I walked up and chipped in my version of events and reminded the driver he had the wrong person to begin with (he didn’t seem to care). I asked him if he would give me his name for the complaint. He refused. The supervisor told the three of us to call in a complaint and supplied the phone number, three times. I advised him that I would be writing a complaint and publishing it, instead. He said, politely, to go ahead, and that the on-board cameras would have recorded both video and audio of the incidents.

The supervisor also implied that—although “not to downplay in any way” what might have happened—that perhaps we should cut the operator some slack because he knew the driver had been involved in an incident earlier that morning with a “Native male” that might have put him on edge, so to speak.

I replied that I didn’t see what some unconnected person’s ethnicity had to do with what an entire busload of people had just witnessed: three unacceptable incidents by one driver within three stops.

The bus wasn’t going anywhere and the medications weren’t getting any cooler, so I walked the rest of the way to work. The bus still hadn’t passed me by the time I arrived, meaning the other passengers were still stranded back there on the sidewalk.

So, TransLink, here’s my complaint.

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Comments (58) Add New Comment
Mark Fornataro
Re:"because he knew the driver had been involved in an incident earlier that morning with a 'Native male' that might have put him on edge, so to speak."
Sounds like the supervisor is condoning racism. Several years ago while on a Vancouver bus on Hastings the driver loudly started making racist stereotype remarks about Chinese people. I went to the front of the bus- with a tape recorder running- and taped the driver admitting making a racist remark. I turned the tape over to CBC's Belle Puri who did a piece for CBC TV news on the matter eliciting a public apology from BC Transit. I too, made note of the time and bus number and also recommend others do the same in similar situations. And I also was falsely accused by a Vancouver bus driver of short-changing him and was basically pushed off the bus. Sounds like they indeed have to be more careful when hiring.
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Benedict Canale
I think you're right - the main point here is the suitability of certain people to be employed in this position! This driver obviously has a few issues he needs to sort out before he sits behind the wheel of a bus again.

Hopefully this gets the attention of Translink!
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Daniel Blair-Johns
I was on the 312 to Scottsdale yesterday having just left Scott Road Station a few minutes past 7pm. There was a gentleman on the bus who was talking very loudly on the phone to someone and I was doing my best to ignore him with my head phones in place so I didn't hear most of the audio of that conversation. But what I did hear was his approach to the TransLink driver.

Apparently the driver had given him some directional advice based upon her knowledge and he had discovered from his phone call that he was actually going in the wrong direction. Instead of courteously excusing himself from the bus, he went on a vitriolic rant about the Translink drivers failings, deficiencies and a plethora of swear words. I do believe he even made comments about strangling her.

These comments obviously had affected her as she seemed a bit curt and rude to some of the subsequent fares, and it makes me wonder if the employees shouldn't be reporting incidents like this so they can be pulled off of active duty so they don't carry these prior incidents with them throughout the rest of their work day and subconsciously taking it out on other customers.
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Jeannine
I agree that they should be more careful with who they hire. They are dealing with all kinds of people plus traffic, I'm sure it can be very stressful. You have to like people for one and secondly have a lot of patience for driving in this city of horribly bad drivers. Being a driver means you are the public face of Translink and if you don't like your job it really shows and every choice you make can make or break someone's day.
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Jeannine
I do have to say there are some pretty awesome drivers out there they go out of their way to brighten their passengers day. There is one in particular I sometimes see on the Davie route who's funny, friendly and courteous. He always gets a laugh out of someone. I myself try to smile and say hello to every driver even if I don't get anything in return as I know the things we passengers do can make or break their day as well.
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Tracey F
Thank you for bringing this to Translink's attention. While I have had mostly good experiences with Translink and their drivers, I did have a situation a few years ago, just after my daughter was born. We were on her first outing (she was only 5 days old) and decided to go to Granville Island. I boarded the bus at Waterfront and put the stroller in the designated spot. As the bus started to fill up, the driver kept glancing back at me and asked if I could fold the stroller to make more room. I told him that I couldn't - for one thing, I didn't have enough hands to hold a newborn and fold a stroller at the same time, and for another thing she was fast asleep and I really didn't like the prospect of holding her on a bus in case there was some kind of accident. He tutted but continued on. At the last stop before the Granville bridge, a man in a wheelchair wanted to board. There was still room on the other side of the "designated" area and the people sitting there immediately got up and moved toward the back of the bus. The driver got out of his seat, came over to me, and told me that either I fold the stroller or I get off the bus. Other passengers pointed out that there was plenty of room for the wheelchair, and the person in the wheelchair even said that he was happy to wait for the next bus. It made no difference to the driver, he stood his ground and told me to fold or leave!!! I didn't want to cause a scene or inconvenience other passengers, so I got off the bus - the poor man in the wheelchair just kept apologizing and telling the driver to let me stay on. By this time, the baby had woken and was starting to cry, so I gave up all hope of having a day out and just headed back home (by foot, I might ad...) I wish that I had filed a complaint or brought this to the attention of Translink and I admire you for doing so in your situation!
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Ashley Clagg
I think that if that driver had an altercation earlier in the day that was bad enough for the supervisor to know about (and to acknowledge as something that would put him in an emotional state and stress him out), they should have had someone substitute for him and sent him home for the rest of the day.

I take 3 buses everyday to and from school and I have experienced both great and terrible bus drivers, but I have also seen them take a lot of disrespect from people. It would be nice for their management to look out for their mental health and well being, perhaps counselling line they could call or people they could talk to in person?

Now, I'm not saying that any of his actions were justified, but with a little bit of thought and consideration on behalf of the bus company, this could have been avoided.
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ugh
Those complaint lines do absolutely nothing. I've reported drivers for being irresponsible and dangerous, as well as rude and confrontational, but nothing ever comes of it. The union has Translink dominated and customers suffer for it.
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Taxpayers R Us
Since the union will stonewall anything to do with disciplining one of their own, I wouldn't hold my breath on his pulled off the buses.

In the meantime though, give it about a week and Translink will announce a "modest" property and gas tax to offset the costs associated with responding to this complaint.
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jonny .
I find most drivers in Metro Vancouver are quite horrible. Even if they are polite, they slam on the brakes and slam on the gas constantly throwing people around the bus. I used to live in Edmonton, where there were a few drivers like that, but most were decent (they had to be because when there is ice on the road for a large part of the year, you cant be slamming on the gas or the brakes). I have had my head slammed against poles and the window and a number of things many times on buses here. I try as much as possible to avoid buses in Vancouver.
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terminalcitygirl
I think it is very important that people complain to Translink about company practices or driver conduct that is problematic. I have filed a number of complaints over the years, and I have also written a note of appreciation when I thought that was warranted to. In my experience driver ego/ power tripping and a (perceived) "ism" - race, age, mental/physical disability of the passenger - is often at the root of the bad behaviour. And then there are some drivers who are really friendly and helpful - so a big thanks to them!
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Weeeeee
And if the video and audio come out that show its the opposite are they going to retract what they stated?

If this situation happened like it happened, then make a complaint. I don't think a person, specifically someone that works and writes on a newspaper should use that as their platform to spread what could potentially be lies to hundreds and thousands of people based solely on what they may or may not have witnessed. Its happened before, quite recently as well where an editor of a newspaper wrote a slanderous report of an RCMP member, and then the audio and video was going to be released and this editor quickly retracted what they wrote. But as I said, go through the formal process of a complaint, this isn't your soap box to stand on. Because if in the end your complaint isn't well-founded then your brief one to two liner of an apology will fall on deaf ears to those that read these articles in this newspaper.

Just tell the news. You don't have to create a "Fox News story"
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Makeda Martin
Time for some sensitivity training Translink.
A few bad apples are spoiling the bunch.
Tommy Transit was an awesome driver, so respectful and kind. You have some incredible drivers, but I tell you on a clear day I'm walking. I have had too many and have witnessed too many uptight drivers as of late.
One mishap earlier in the day, does not give you the right to be abusive to another person down the line, regardless of who you are and what you do for a living.
Get it together Mr. bus driver or find a new job.
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Martin Dunphy
Weeeeee:

First of all, actually, yes, this is my "soap box to stand on". The Window Seat is my transit blog on the Straight's Blogra.
Second, I did file a complaint, as I stated in the preface to the piece.
Third, every word I wrote was an account of something that happened to ME a few hours earlier, not someone else. I didn't forget or ignore facts or lie.
Fourth, as I reported, I am aware that there are cameras on the buses, which is even more of a reason why I wouldn't fabricate the incidents.
(And there were dozens of witnesses, including at least two who said they were going to complain as well.)
Your insinuations regarding my character are not appreciated.
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Arnold Bucky C
I am in a wheelchair and I've come across bus drivers like these who might have had a rough day but take it out on whoever they can. Just a few weeks ago, a driver was running late from the FIRST stop on the route (maybe due to a previous delay) and pretty much took his frustration out on me as he was assisting me with the belts, saying that I was "making" him late.

Yet he left everyone else alone, even those who were running for the bus from afar (and probably wouldn't have made it under normal circumstances). As I got off, he mouthed off to me again, using words like "you wheelchair people." Never mind the fact that I was traveling the entire route (which would have little bearing on delaying everyone else)!

The point of my situation and situations like these is this: it doesn't matter what kind of day the bus driver might be having. Unless it is a major incident, it is completely unprofessional for a driver to take his/her frustration out at passengers if they did not do anything seriously wrong. The driver doesn't have to smile/joke/greet, but at least hold yourself together to a point where your moods don't cause conflicts such as these.

While training can involve these kinds of reminders, it is also common sense.

I also agree with Mark that the supervisor's excuse was kind of pathetic as well, both in terms of racism and the excuse itself.
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john smith
It's a tough job and I empathize with drivers who are under a lot of pressure & stress. That said, it must be made clear to them that abusive and rude behaviour by the drivers will not be tolerated. I see no functional system in place for processing complaints by the public, no evidence that complaints have any effect at all.
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Bad Applez

So everyone is getting mad at a person that was just physically or verbally assaulted by a passenger earlier, and then bullied by Vancouverites, as these passengers supported the claim that he was an asshole?

Even if he was an asshole, do you guys think you made a bad situation better by ganging up on him? No wonder he went insane. He's dealing with all of you. Have you ever tried to defend yourself from a bus load of people that are verbally harassing you? Further, after a shot to your mental well-being?

For some reason, those on the bus feel that calling the bus driver an asshole, and then publishing how much of an "asshole" this guy apparently is, is exactly how you help his mental health and make transit better?

Move to New York.

*Dislike, Dislike, Dislike.

Translink, next time just send the bus driver home. Harassment is that serious, as you can see how it hurt his mental state enough to escalate a situation, made worse by the "self-righteous" public.
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musicmadame
It's a rotten job..some of them handle it well, some others don't. Clearly the plaintiff in this case has a legit beef. Asshats need to be called on their behaviour and reported to their supervisor. The supervisor's excuse about a previous incident doesn't cut it. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.
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Alexis
In early June I was so disgusted by a Translink driver's behavior I jumped off the bus and marched to the nearest stop to get the number for customer service and called from the street.

The crowded number 3 traveling south on Main had a woman with a buggy in the designated spot - but at the moment, the baby was strapped to her chest in a harness. First, the bus driver bullied her into collapsing the buggy, since the baby wasn't in it anyway. As the woman struggled, humiliated, with one hand (the other holding her son in the harness) and the bus rumbled on down the road, the thing came apart into three pieces which she shuffled back and forth across the aisle to stack into the luggage area.
Then, the drive decided the pieces were too precariously stacked, and in a curt, impatient tone told the women she couldn't put the buggy pieces there. The woman protested, frustrated after having dismantled the whole thing (with no help from anyone), and the driver snapped back, angrily, that she'd better move the pieces.
The young mother was now fighting tears as she pulled down the pieces one by one again dragging them back to the opposite side of the aisle, leaning them against the wall of the bus, and leaning herself against them. At this point another passenger, and older woman, helped her prop them up from falling while she clutched her son and wiped her eyes.
I was absolutely sick! I took the bus number and filed a complain straight away. The bus driver was a woman herself, it's really a pity she had no understanding. And I can't help but wonder if the fact that the young mother was Southeast Asian had anything to do with it. I sensed I wasn't the only one on the bus thinking it.
This is in no way acceptable in this city. Not ever, not for any reason.
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Ted
Oh my god. Driving a bus in Vancouver must be stressful and there times in our lives wear we all act irrational and immature, at work or on our own time. Yes I've seen bus drivers act like assholes but I'm not going to try and get the person fired. You fucking babies. Why not cry about the cost of transportation in this region. Fight injustice not trivial shit like this. What about the cops that murder people freely? What about the cost of living. God damn crying about transit. Guess what dumb fucks. Bus drivers are the same everywhere, just like cabbies and and cops.Get out in the world. Vancouver has some of the weakest insecure people in the nation. Grow the fuck up. At least your not starving to death in Somalia. Little babies that don't get a chance while you complain about a guy who is having a bad day. Fuck ya'll. Ride a bike if you don't like it fatties.
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