Sex addiction has devastating effects

When David Duchovny entered rehab for sex addiction, he drew attention to a condition with devastating effects

During his second marriage, a man we’ll call Walter Logan had three or four affairs a year, every year, throughout the entire decade he and his wife were together. When the Vancouver lawyer wasn’t screwing around or indulging in pornography, he masturbated several times a day: at the office, on his lunch hour, or in the washrooms of his friends’ homes when he was out for dinner.

Looking back now, the 43-year-old says it didn’t even occur to him that he could be addicted to sex. He wasn’t hiring prostitutes or stopping in at massage parlours—behaviours that, in his mind, signalled a problem. Seeking out women to fuck behind his wife’s back, on the other hand, was more the pursuit of a “sensual vacation”.

Every time he slept with someone, though, Logan would end up consumed by shame. He says he hated himself but he couldn’t stop himself.


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“I’d usually sleep with a person once, then would be so disgusted with myself that I would immediately cease all contact,” Logan, who doesn’t want his real name used, for obvious reasons, says on his cellphone. “I’d drop them and vow never to do it again and would go back to my wife and try to be a better husband.”

But the cycle continued: over and over, he’d scour the classifieds in the Georgia Straight or pay for telepersonals to find a new, willing lover.

Finally, after his wife found a link on his computer to a site aimed at married men wanting affairs, Logan’s double life started crumbling. She left; only when they were talking on the phone a few days later did he confess everything. Not only had he cheated on her, but he was also unfaithful in his first marriage. His second wife said to him: “It sounds like you have an addiction.” With those words, everything clicked.

“The moment she said that, the light went off in my head,” Logan says.

Logan’s sex addiction nearly ruined him. Although he and his second wife tried counselling, their marriage ended earlier this year. His relationships with many friends and family members ceased or suffered. He is financially ruined. At his lowest point, he was suicidal.

“I was standing on top of a cliff, wondering if I should jump,” Logan says. “And I almost did. I had hurt my family so much, and I didn’t understand why. I hurt my parents; I hurt my siblings”¦I felt as if I’d lost everything.”

Two days later, Logan went to his first Greater Vancouver Sex Addicts Anonymous meeting. “Out of that despair I walked into that room and found hope,” he says of the 12-step program. “Unconditional love and support is what you get in those rooms.”

Logan now describes himself as in his third year of recovery from sex addiction. He stresses that he’s not speaking on behalf of Sex Addicts Anonymous but, rather, wants to tell his story so that people in similar situations know that they can get help.

Sex addiction has been in the media spotlight lately, thanks largely to David Duchovny, the actor who happens to play a sex-obsessed writer on TV’s Californication and who went into rehab for the condition in August. In the movie Choke, based on the novel by Chuck Palahniuk, Sam Rockwell plays a medical-school dropout who goes to sex-addict recovery groups, looking to hook up. New York author Susan Cheever has just released Desire: Where Sex Meets Addiction (Simon & Schuster), a book about her own relentless need for love and sex. And the theme of sexual addiction shows up in Quebec filmmaker Lyne Charlebois’s Borderline.

Sex addiction is also the object of plenty of mockery. Even Logan says he used to joke that if you had to have an addiction, sex would be the best. “It’s the worst,” he says now. “It eats away at your soul. You live with shame. You live a double life. I could not stop it. I knew that one day I would get found out. It’s a soul-killing disease.”

Hattiesburg, Mississippi–based counsellor-psychologist Patrick Carnes introduced sex addiction to the public when he wrote Out of the Shadows: Understanding Sexual Addiction in 1985. In 1992, he released Don’t Call It Love: Recovery From Sexual Addiction, a book that features results from a study he conducted of 1,000 addicts and their families.

According to Carnes, three to six percent of the U.S. population is addicted to sex. He’s not talking about those who merely have a strong sex drive. “It is a compulsive behavior that completely dominates the addict’s life,” Carnes explains on his Web site. “Sexual addicts make sex a priority more important than family, friends, and work. Sex becomes the organizing principle of addicts’ lives. They are willing to sacrifice what they cherish most in order to preserve and continue their unhealthy behavior.”

Sex addiction isn’t marked by a single type of behaviour, but can include compulsive masturbation, compulsive use of pornography and prostitution, compulsive heterosexual and homosexual relationships, exhibitionism, voyeurism, indecent phone calls, child molestation, violence, rape, and incest.

“Even the healthiest forms of human sexual expression can turn into self-defeating behaviors,” Carnes says.

In Don’t Call It Love, Carnes reveals the results of questionnaires filled out by 752 male and 180 female sex addicts, most of whom had been admitted for treatment to a Minnesota hospital. The others had spent at least three years participating in a 12-step program for sexual addiction. Of the people included in Carnes’s research, 63 percent were heterosexual, 18 percent were homosexual, 11 percent were bisexual, and eight percent were unsure of their sexual preference.

Ninety-seven percent of addicts reported that their sexual activity resulted in the loss of self-esteem, while 96 percent reported feeling guilt or shame, 91 percent said they had feelings of hopelessness, and 90 percent said they were acting in ways that collided with their values.

Carnes found that 42 percent of sex addicts were also dependent on alcohol or drugs, and 38 percent had eating disorders.

Eighty-one percent of sex addicts reported a history of sexual abuse.

Logan has the same story. When he was 10, he and a friend were both molested by a stranger while they were playing in the woods. (“He used the whole ”˜I’m looking for my puppy’ kind of stuff,” Logan says of the man.) After he was sexually assaulted, things changed. His grades dropped and he started getting into trouble. Then he started to masturbate.

“Before I even reached puberty, I was very compulsive, to the point where I would masturbate until I injured myself—four, five, six times a night.”¦I started using masturbation at a very early age to try and escape my feelings.”¦With addiction, you’re trying to run away from yourself, your fears, anxieties, sadness: whatever emotions you don’t want to feel.”

By the time he reached his 30s and was arranging to meet women in hotel rooms, affairs gave Logan an emotional, if temporary, high.

“I felt so unworthy as a person”¦that I needed the person to want me,” he explains.

Caveh Zahedi also used sex as a means to dull negative feelings. In 2005, the San Francisco–based filmmaker released I Am a Sex Addict, a movie for which he still gets both fan mail and hate mail. The twice-divorced 48-year-old, who’s now remarried and has a new baby, went to his first Sex Addicts Anonymous meeting in 1991 after years of paying prostitutes for oral sex.

“When I heard other people speak [at the meetings], I recognized my own pattern,” Zahedi says in a phone interview. “The more they did it, the more they felt compelled to do it. I wanted to stop but never could. It was a lonely, isolating thing for me”¦I realized that for me it almost always happened when I was upset about something, when I was sad or angry.”¦Sex addicts sexualize their anger. It’s how you deal with your pain.”

Zahedi, who went to SAA meetings for several years but now relies on yoga and meditation to counter troubling emotions, says making the film was part of his healing process.

“People think sex addicts are people in raincoats, really sleazy, when they’re just normal people, people you see every day. I wanted to fight the stereotype.”

Sex addiction crosses all socioeconomic, educational, racial, and sexual-orientation lines, but one thing that is common among addicts is a sense of shame, says Doris Vincent, a certified sex-addiction therapist and registered psychologist who, in addition to treating people at her Recovery Path office in Edmonton, counsels people throughout Alberta, B.C., and the Northwest Territories by phone.

“They feel very, very sad about their behaviour,” Vincent tells the Straight. “They want to stop. They don’t want to continue. They love their families and don’t want to lose them. But they cannot stop the behaviour despite repeated attempts, and it’s a constant disruption in their life.”

Sex addiction can also be seen as a chemical addiction, according to Carnes, because dopamine, the brain’s pleasure-creating neurochemical, is released during orgasm. Dutch neuroscientist Gert Holstege revealed in a 2003 Journal of Neuroscience study that brain scans taken during orgasm resemble those taken during a heroin rush. Marnia Robinson, a former lawyer turned “sacred sex” researcher, explains the neurochemical phenomenon of addiction on her Web site, Reuniting.

“Passionate encounters leading to sexual satiation over-stimulate the pleasure/reward center in the primitive brain, triggering temporary ”˜hangovers’,” Robinson writes.

“Let’s look at what goes on in the brain during sex and orgasm. Although you think everything happens between your legs, the sensation of orgasm actually originates between your ears, in the form of chemical messengers and the receptors they bind to. These neurochemical changes take place in the limbic system, or ”˜mammalian brain’. The mammalian brain”¦is the seat of emotions, desires, drives and impulses.

“However, addiction is not just about the highs. Over time, an addiction creates a chronic lowering of dopamine levels.”¦This sense that ”˜something is missing’ is the basis of addictive cravings. At the same time, the addict experiences a much higher than average response to triggers related to his particular learned behavior.”¦In other words, his overall state seems to be flattened”¦while his reaction to triggers related to his addiction is more pronounced. This may be because such triggers signal an opportunity for relief from the misery of low dopamine.”

Robinson stresses that Reuniting isn’t aimed at addicts, but she says she was surprised to discover that many were visiting the site.

“I thought, ”˜Come on, guys, this site is about sacred sex. We don’t want to talk about porn,’ ” Robinson says on the line from Ashland, Oregon. “But I could see that these really wonderful men were asking, ”˜How did this happen? I’m not a pervert. I don’t understand why I can’t turn it off.’ ”



Some believe sex addiction is linked to low dopamine levels in the brain’s limbic system, which is the seat of emotions. Photo by Vasiliy Yakobchuk.

Vincent also believes the brain—and not weak moral character—plays a role in sex addiction.

“If it is an addiction, there’s no choice,” Vincent explains. “The limbic system is driving it.”¦The brain focuses on the things the neurochemical system needs. The primitive part of our brain takes over.”

According to Vancouver doctor Gabor Maté, the distinguishing features of addiction are compulsion, preoccupation, impaired control, persistence, relapse, and craving. In his latest book, In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts: Close Encounters With Addiction, Maté explains that the roots of sex addiction can be traced to childhood, and whether someone was sexually abused or lacked love and nurturing.

“In a person with addictive behaviors, the orbitofrontal cortex and its associated neurological systems have been tricked from childhood onward into valuing false wants above real needs.”¦Hence, the desperation of the behavioural addict, the urgency to have that want answered immediately, as if it really were an essential requirement,” Maté writes.

“The so-called nymphomaniac, the female sex addict, is not addicted to sex at all, but to the dopamine and endorphin rewards that flow from the feeling of being desired and desirable.”

Sex addiction falls into a grey area when it comes to diagnosis. It doesn’t show up in the current edition of the American Psychiatric Association’s Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, the most trusted guide to psychiatric disorders, but it is being considered by a work group on non-substance-related addictions for inclusion in the next edition, which comes out in 2012. Sex addiction isn’t defined on the Canadian Society of Addiction Medicine’s Web site, nor was a representative from the society willing to be interviewed. However, the society did invite Vincent to speak on the role of sexual-abuse-survivors’ groups in the treatment of sex addiction at its most recent conference, which took place in Vancouver on October 31 and November 1.

A study in the August 2004 issue of the Philadelphia-based Journal of Sex Research questioned the validity of sex addiction. Authored by John Bancroft—then director of the Kinsey Institute for Research in Sex, Gender, and Reproduction—and researcher Zoran Vukadinovic, the report described “compulsive sexual behaviour” and “sexual addiction” as “currently fashionable concepts”.

“At this time, both concepts are of uncertain scientific value,” Bancroft and Vukadinovic wrote, noting that nymphomania (excessive sexual desire in women) and satyriasis (the same in men) used to be popular labels.

In their study—titled “Sexual Addiction, Sexual Compulsivity, Sexual Impulsivity, or What? Toward a Theoretical Model”—Bancroft and Vukadinovic interviewed 31 self-described sex addicts (29 men and two women).

“Subjects were asked whether they found themselves trying to resist the urge to act out or whether at the time it was something they genuinely wanted to do,” they wrote. “Eleven men and one of the women indicated that they tried to resist, but most of them did not give a convincing description of resistance.”

However, the authors did find a relationship between negative mood and sexual interest.

“All but 4 of the 29 men and both women reported an increased likelihood of acting out in states of either depression or anxiety or both,” they noted.

Plus, forty-five percent of the addicts reported a state of mind while carrying out sexual acts that Bancroft and Vukadinovic say could be regarded as a form of dissociation from reality. Addicts noted these sensations: “not conscious of reality”, “zoning out”, and “numb”, and sex feeling “like euphoria—like cocaine”.

Despite the Kinsey research, many health professionals maintain that sex addiction is as real as it is devastating.

Paulette Tomasson, a West Vancouver–based nurse, clinical counsellor, and certified sex-addiction therapist, says that the condition is rife with misinformation.

“When people hear ”˜sex addict’, they think ”˜pedophile’,” Tomasson tells the Straight. “That’s a completely different thing.

“I just had two new clients yesterday,” she continues. “Both were men. Both had been to many other therapists. The older client was in tears because he’s been trying to work on this for about 15 years now, and everyone wants to normalize it. They say, ”˜It’s just what men do. All men go to prostitutes.’ Excuse me? That is not true. ”

Tomasson, who gives educational seminars for counsellors interested in becoming certified sex-addiction therapists, says a half-dozen people might show up.

“It’s really quite sad,” she says of the dearth of services available. “Therapists will say, ”˜Oh, I don’t have any of that in my practice.’ Well, if you’ve seen 100 people, you have at least three to five who have sex addiction.”

She also stresses that with the proliferation of porn on the Internet, the prevalence of sex addiction will only increase.

Tomasson, who treats men and women, says that looking at suggestive images on-line changes the wiring in people’s brains. People’s eyes are not used to looking at light directly for long periods of time. By staring at a steady stream of light, people become “like deer in headlights” and go into a state of “startle”.

“When you’re on the Internet and in startle, then up comes an image and it makes you aroused, those images get burned into your brain,” Tomasson explains. “There might be a pop-up of something like an adolescent who’s compromised. I’ve had people say, ”˜I’ve never been attracted to adolescents in my life. But after being on the Internet, I can’t get it out of my mind.’

“So the Internet shifts the arousal template, and it becomes very difficult to then find the same arousal with a real human being. All of a sudden, people become aroused by something illegal or immoral.”¦The Internet is known as the crack cocaine of sex addiction.

“I used to think Craigslist was for used furniture,” she adds. “Now I know it’s the most popular place for people to pick up prostitutes. When I walk down the streets, I see a whole different city now.”

Like Tomasson, Vincent sees the Internet as the greatest catalyst for sex addiction. “Besides the anonymity, accessibility, and affordability, one of the dangers of the Internet is that we see images our brain is not prepared to handle.”¦They stay in your brain. I have clients come to me trying to get rid of them.”

Although the Internet is a potential menace to people who can’t control their desire, it’s also a place where addicts as well as their spouses and family members can find support. Web sites like No-Porn.com and RecoveryNation.com have helped people understand the affliction.

Recovery is possible. Tomasson, who heads Addiction Counselling and Resources Limited, recommends one-on-one therapy in conjunction with 12-step programs. (Information about Greater Vancouver Sex Addicts Anonymous is at www.saavancouver.org/.) There are some places in Canada that take in-patients, including Toronto’s Bellwood Health Services.

Sometimes Tomasson will request a client abstain from sex and masturbation for three months.

“They look at me like they’re going to die,” Tomasson says. “They go through a physical withdrawal process, just like with caffeine. But they find what their natural rhythm is with sexuality.”¦Most have been compulsive and have used sex as a reward to self-medicate, to fend off emotions that they don’t like or that make them uncomfortable.”

Clearly, unlike with alcohol addiction, abstinence isn’t realistic when it comes to sex. Vincent agrees that the first step to recovery is “sobriety”, and that it takes a minimum of 30 days to come out of an addictive state. She says that one of the goals is for addicts to abstain entirely from sex in the short term, then from compulsive behaviours over the long term. From there, people can move into healing and look at underlying personal issues, including trauma they may have experienced as a child or adult. Addicts must also learn what it means to have a healthy sex life—including aspects like boundaries, trust, intimacy, openness, honesty, and communication.

Prevention is possible too, starting early in life.

“Children need good information about sex in an age-appropriate way,” Tomasson says. “Children are exposed to porn on the Net today by the age of seven. They are sexualized earlier and earlier in our society by”¦fashion and are exposed to sexualized images on TV, music videos, and all forms of media. So, basically, it is about helping children process their feelings, have safe coping methods for stress, and, of course, loads of love and support.”

Logan still goes to Sex Addicts Anonymous meetings regularly and sees a counsellor. He says he’s hit rock bottom and is starting his life from scratch.

“But I don’t think I’ve ever been happier,” Logan says. “Life now is a lot more precious. I’m learning how to be a much better person, to live a life of honesty, to be accountable to my friends and family.”

He’s not in a relationship and is hesitant about dating. “I have to be prepared to tell them my story, and it’s not an easy thing to hear.”

A source in this story asked for anonymity. A Georgia Straight editor verified his identity.

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palpateit
Great article with lots of insight into how sex can subvert the will - thanks to the way our brains work. I was impressed with how Johnson handled input from the Kinsey Institute. According to Kinsey’s biographer (James H. Jones, "Alfred C. Kinsey"), Kinsey is the dude whose own sexual addiction was so severe that he injured himself by tying his nuts to a rope dangling from the ceiling and jumping off of a chair - to satisfy his intense cravings. He also spontaneously circumcised himself with a razor while being filmed masturbating (for the good of science). Sexual repression is bad, all right, but Kinsey’s distorted views and faulty research have skewed the thinking of sexologists for years. Some academics are even using his logic to argue that pedophilia should be perfectly acceptable. (Rind et al. controversy) Now it is turning out that the “if it feels good, do it” crowd is as far off the mark as the Victorian prudes, but in the opposite direction.
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Maverick
Sex in my opinion is a form of sensual art but like anything can become an addiction. I have an awesome Japanese wife, she is 25 and was virgin when we started out 4 years ago. We have both grown into very sexual people and share the experiences with other girls and even other couples. I also have sex with many other very cute Japanese girls who know the situation and my wife is open to this as they are too. Inside something tels me this is wrong, stop, go back to being a normal couple, another part of me just can't stop and we share times with 3-4 girls a week, have sex at least 3-5 times or more a day. I uess that could be considered a sex addiction. How do I stop it. The girls are all into it as well and keep coming back for more. While it is an awesome experience, would be nice to be able to go back to just being a couple, just us. My wife is also very heavy on all she can get. We have also had the couples thing where she was with the other guys too, sad to say, it was hot to see her with another guy while i was with another girl. Still, how can we stop? How can we go back? There is much more to the story, just sharing the basics.
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Syllverrider
The heart of the matter seems to be the dopamine/endorphin cycle which can go awry by any over-stimulation. Sex like any other stimulant, including emotional stimulants, can become the focus or object of the addiction. This posits a range of normal/healthy human emotions, and mental illness as being a persistent, troublesome deviation from this norm. Of course because we all crave human contact and affection, lack of them shows up as addictions: to food, to sex, ..... I believe our material society skews our view of ourselves as humans toward consuming or performing machines at the expense of meeting emotional needs. Meeting a spouse's or a child's emotional needs seems like such a trivial matter yet to do so creates a kind of innoculation against this dopamine/endorphin imbalance. I've learned I can only solve problems if I can get them small enough to see. This shrinking it down to daily self-care and care of others--well, I had no idea how much power this truly has in the world.
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Defin
Maverick, if you would stop using words like hot and sexy and awesome well it would already be a beginning.
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George81
This really helped me out a lot I have been addicted to sex before I could even get a hardon. when I was like 4 I was molested by my neighbours. I have been trying to stop my addiction my whole life I feel terrible all the time and waste so much time trying to get that feeling I will waste whole days prolonging the feeling. I have already ruined one marriage with it by cheating on her. I am trying to stop and this article gave me some hope. I don't want it to happen again.
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katydid
get a life
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Fuck Celebrities
When David Ducheveny (sp?) attempted to resurrect his career by publicizing his addiction and making a TV show about a sex crazed writer, I remembered the Onion joke that, "Actors are the real heros".

I'm in recovery. But I'm not a sap.
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James Anthony Cavalier

Regarding katydid Wed, 2009-07-08 18:01 Rating: -1 3 votes

Dear katydid,

A life is not something that you 'get'. It is what you do when you live to love rather that love to live.

When people say they 'love life', what they mean is they luv the feelings of pleasure they get OUT of life.

When most people say they don't believe in 'having sex without love, what they mean is, the sexual gratification they are getting from their objects of desire are not enough to satify them, but when they add those
emotions of love that they crave into the relationship, they compound the
satifaction they experience and then they say they have 'found' what they
craved.

I believe this is merely nothing more than another form of hedonism.

Romantic (i.e. Ro-man-'tic' ) love is not mature love, but it is just
another form of lust.

This is just a symbio-'tic' relationship, but the more beautiful the
symbiosis, the more dangerous it is, because it is a nearly perfect kind of counterfeit love.

I believe the sexual act within the context of a mature love relationship
is an act of communicattion, not an act of consumption,and...

I believe the problems related to our failure to love is found within the
context of the answer to this question,...

"Am I loving.?", not...

"Am I being loved?".

I say this because I believe Erich Fromm's statement...

'Love is the active concern for the life and growth of those whom we (would) love." is an absolute truth that most of the world's population
has yet to comprehend.

You are welcome to respond to these comments via the following
Email address: Serious_comments@yahoo.ca
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Jason
Great article. We have recently formed a not for profit called SA Lifeline that focuses on Sexual / Pornography addiction education and instruction. As part of our launch we have teamed up with a leading Neurologist that has done extensive research on this topic. He also completed a book about pornography addiction that dives into its impact on the brain. Please take a look at the write up on the book and let us know you think. If you do decide to order a book, 100% of the proceeds from the book are going to spread this message. To date we have given away over 500 books to local religious, civic, and business leaders in our immediate community.

http://salifeline.org/he-restoreth-my-soul-by-donald-l-hilton-jr-md/
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billybob
fuck fuck fuck allllllll night loooooong
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jou
Hi Iam looking for answers I was raped by a transgerender woman she
forced me to have oral and anal sex with her the problem is it confused
me sexually she made climax and I her the climax felt great but her climax was in my mouth when she screwed me I shuttered and came
I have never felt anything like this did I fall in love
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alone
thanks. For those who don't care this article might mean nothing. For those who are lost in this sort of thing, like me.. I just say thanks..
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Soulsense
Maverick that's really messed up... I don't understand how you can truly love someone yet share that person to other people... Especially in your twisted logic. How can you feel good about watching your wife having sex with another man? I think that you don't know what love is about and is diluted into thinking that you're in love when really you're not in love with your wife, you're just in love with yourself and can't handle the loneliness and adversity which one may face in pursuit of real love. Sadly I think thats how most people are nowadays in this society. The media and environment has preconditioned their mind to operate in such behavior as the "norm" without ever challenging or questioning it... For the morally sensitive people, this is indeed a sad world where we may not belong in. I think the first step to people with sexual addiction is to stop being overly in love with themselves and their senses. Try to look for real love, someone who would be there for you no matter what, and with unfailing love. Someone who shares a deep bond with you thats unbreakable. Personally speaking, most people including women usually assume that I'm a player because of my looks, personality and success - It gives me that status quo ability to be the biggest player if I wanted to. I am what most women yearn to be with just from the shell. I would probably have a sexual addiction problem if I let loose myself ignore my heart and go with the flow since I'm able to somehow attract attractive women without much effort. But thats not me, I'm not a player because it just doesn't suit my personality, I am in touch with myself and I feel that it's senseless and meaningless to engage in intimacy with someone you don't love. After the lust fade away all you're left with is emptiness. I want to find that special person who is so rare in this world that when my time on Earth ends, I'd have no regret knowing that I found true love. Unfortunately with what the world has become, I feel that finding real love is like finding a pearl in the ocean. In addition I'm not stupid enough to be blinded by false love thats nothing but glass that would shatter any minute. Girls nowadays are walking with stds and herpes, been through multiple partners, when those girls tells me they love me and want to be with me forever, how do you expect me to take them seriously? I am confident in myself that I am able to make them fall in love with me but I am not confident in myself able to love someone like that. Their love and my love is just too different and sex is not everything there is to life. God said that people should be virgin before they marry, the fact is it saddens me that theres really no more virgin before they marry. I don't think I'll find a girl that's not tainted by another man. And if I were to truly love her I would never be able to stand the fact that she had sex with someone else other than me. True love can be extremely selfish in not wanting to share your partner. Plus girls aren't really virgin anymore if they done anything sexual with another person despite not having been penetrated. With the way things are, society is heading towards a down spiral of despair. Kids are more likely to be raised in single family more so likely than ever.
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tina
We will never over come sex addicition here in America and other parts of the world,because "sex and violence is what the media feeds us all day everyday all day ever hour the o mighty dollar degrades what is suppose to be love and respect. we live in a culture that talks with two different mouths.Kids are raised by parents who are sex addicts and we do nothing to protect them when will we stop being a selfish cheating lying culture?
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What worked
Go to a 12 step meeting for sex addicts if you want your life back. Real simple. Takes balls, but worth it.
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Humphery
Is sex good 4 un married couple ? Is over sex bad
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Kathy Tran
I just got married. My husband asked me do 3somes with other girls and even with other guys. We did 3somes in Thailand with a hooker and my feeling was so bad to watch he fuck her. He promised will not do it anymore but i know he is sex addiction. He watches porn and masturbate many times a day in my back and in front of my eyes. He asked me have to serve him and girls, hookers who he get for us. I'm really sad. His ex GF was Japanese, Chinese and Filipino who people said they are open for sex. Everyday he train me how to be a best wife when he come home with his girl or i have to get girl for him. Some my friends asked me should leave him but I think it is a monster controlling his soul. I hope I can help him but I don't know how. I love my husband and I don't want to do 3some for his fantasy anymore but if I do not do it, he will leave me for another girl who can do what he want. I know he need help but he still does not realize that. Please help me how to help him stop it.
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sb
Kathy Tran,
The only solution to your situation is to take off - I think you know this and you need someone to say it.
Your husband is so far gone and is not going to agree to having less of what he's getting.

Wait until hes gone the entire day, decide what belongs to you in the house, and you move your stuff out.. simple..
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schnitzel
Kathy Tran,

nobody deserves a fucktard like how your husband is. if he just married just to have a threesome and fuck all day with bitches you barely know, tell him to get a life, kick him good in the balls and kiss him goodbye.

SIMPLE! your relationship is too one-sided. LEAVE HIM NOW.
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cneg
"Sex addicts sexualize their anger. It’s how you deal with your pain." That is an incredibly brief, yet astute observation.
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