Terminally single? Here's what's wrong with you

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At 32, Sofi Teleky has long, strong legs that an Arabian mare would envy, plush brown hair, toned everything, and a lilting accent from her native Hungary. She also owns an e-commerce business that sends her to Europe for months at a time. In her spare hours, she puts her smouldering looks to use as an actor; recently, she played a sexy maid in a short film. She’s smart, hot, accomplished, and on her own. Yes, boys. She’s still single. And, she said, it’s all your fault.

“Sometimes I see a cute guy in the lineup at Starbucks,” Teleky, who lives in Delta, told the Georgia Straight in a recent phone interview. “I’ll smile and look, and look away, and flirt, and he’ll never approach me. Guys here have no testicles. That’s a huge problem. But women can also be really hard on men. Especially the attractive ones.”

It’s no new revelation that Vancouver is a tough place to meet a mate, or even date. The Straight interviewed several singles who, like Teleky, have looked for love for a decade or longer with little success. Also like Teleky, they are lust winners overseas but love losers here. Is it their problem or the Lower Mainland’s?

Statistically speaking, Vancouver’s never-married, separated, divorced, and widowed folk represent 58 percent of the population, or 293,320 people, according to Statistics Canada. That’s a significant sea in which to miss finding a fish. Other Canadian cities are comparable: Toronto has 53 percent single folk; Edmonton 55 percent; Montreal 66 percent; and Victoria a whopping 70 percent.

But flummoxed singles still blame this city for their personal romantic drought.

Sarah Jones, for example, is a 34-year-old paramedic from North Vancouver who’s just returned from three months in Argentina and Brazil. A breakup 18 months ago left her raw, she told the Straight. And she’s not looking for a husband quite yet. She said she’s not emotionally ready for a partner again. But the South American men easily coaxed out her inner vixen.

“They’re fabulous,” she gushed. “They have no problem telling you how they feel and if they want you and what they want to do with you.” At first, she admitted, the aggressiveness turned her off. But, she said, she soon realized that it was far more lighthearted than the attention she gets in Vancouver. Here, she said, if a guy asks for a phone number, it’s a huge deal for him. “Down there, it’s like, ”˜I like you. Let me take you for dinner.’ ”

Describing himself as “super single”, TV production designer Tink (who goes by that name alone) also has trouble with Vancouver. He’s attracted to men and women he describes as “interesting, out-there people”. As a model, he found them in London, Barcelona, and Rome, he told the Straight. As a filmmaker, he found them in New York. As a designer, he found them in Tokyo. He just doesn’t find them here.

“In a city like L.A. or Tokyo, you’ve got people at the top of what they do creatively, and it’s satisfying. There’s a buzz. I have tons of friends I love dearly in Vancouver. But someone that sparks me? I don’t have that.”

The city isn’t the problem, according to Diederik Wolsak, the founder of the Choose Again Center for Attitudinal Healing. Instead, it’s that so many singles look outside themselves for what’s missing inside.

“There’s six billion victims on the planet,” Wolsak told the Straight. “Your job is not to make someone else happy, and their job is not to make you happy. Your job is to fall in love with you, and my job is to fall in love with me. And we are madly in love with each other doing that.”

Most folks, Wolsak explained, don’t have a clue what they want in a relationship. And when they’re in one, they don’t know what the purpose of it is. To him, it’s simple: love is happiness; “it’s more fun than anything you can imagine.” He suggested this, like the concept of Namaste—the divine in me greets the divine in you— is a spiritual-relationship theme that extends across faiths and time: the Upanishads, Buddha, and so on. Young people, he said, have an easier time grasping the concept of intrinsic worth, as do First Nations people. It’s older people and white people, he said, who struggle with it the most. To build a worthwhile relationship, Wolsak said, everyone must start with the idea that they’re intrinsically valuable—apart from the size of their paycheque or the firmness of their buns—and that those they are dating are intrinsically valuable as well.

That’s not a local problem, Wolsak explained; that’s a western-world challenge.

However, lifestyle coach Ronald Lee said Vancouver’s vibe is indeed an impediment to love. His dating-coaching service works hard to give locals the social skills they need to talk to the opposite sex—a simple platform that’s frequently missing, he told the Straight during an interview in a West Broadway coffee shop.

“In Vancouver, we’re looking for someone to take care of us,” he said, noting that many women are looking for wealth, and men for a mommy figure. “We’re screening harder because we think we’re entitled to more.”

At the same time, he explained, there’s a dangerous stasis in the city. Generally, no one is working as hard as the Edmontonians or Torontonians to meet each other. Vancouver guys, he said, will memorize scripts before hitting the bar, or put on a he-man act for the evening; women, on the other hand, will dress poorly and reject everyone without giving them a chance.

Asha Gill, 41, doesn’t have much patience for Vancouver’s shallow dating scene, so she’s single. After a marriage that ended in divorce six years ago and mad dating afterward, she’s narrowed her relationship search to reflect her experience. She doesn’t have a checklist of qualities, such as romance or cash, so many of her same-age girlfriends screen for, she said. Lasting love, she’s discovered, is really about good day-to-day communication, being understood, and seeking to understand.

“Being loved by a partner and having that kind of loving exchange, nothing can touch that in terms of how it makes you feel,” Gill told the Straight, explaining why she’s still looking for love. “You can be happy on your own. And I am. But nothing can touch that feeling.”

As for Teleky, she’s not looking for love anymore. Raised behind the Iron Curtain on a literary diet of Jane Austen and the Brontí«s, she once had a heart full of romantic fantasy. Now, as an adult, she’s given up on the Prince Charming dream; at the same time, she’s also given up on romance.

“No one dreams of a really dependable man who has maybe lost his hair or is short,” she said. “Everyone wants a Mr. Darcy.”

In a city where Teleky said she has trouble finding even a decent conversation, she’s stuck in no-man land.

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Jennifer33
I think the issue in Vancity is simple.
I don't think men have any clue whatsoever how to act here. Since womans lib we have confused them so much that I believe a lot has been lost. When I was 25 I moved to Mexico for three years. I can tell you that moving there really helped my confidence, men noticed me everywhere. They would compliment my eyes, clothes, nail polish, everything. When I was at a table and had to get up to use the ladies room they would all stand to let me out, opened doors for me, at the grocery store I always was offered help with my bags, all the way home. These small gestures reminded me that I am a woman and they made me feel quite beautiful. I noticed I would take a little extra time with my hair and makeup after a while. I wanted to look good and I felt good about me, inside and out.
Being born in Vancouver and raised here I was always confused about men's intentions.
You can even drive 30 minutes out of the city through the border into Bellingham to see the difference. On my 21st birthday I went there for the night because I was finally legal there. My girlfriend and I walked into a club and within 10 minutes our table was SURROUNDED with men fighting over who gets to dance with her and I. Our table was covered with drinks immediantly from the prospective men and we felt like ladies.
So Vancouver ladies, remember that womans lib did do a lot for us there is no denying this, but it might be time to remind ourselves of some of the more simple things that we can show our men here that we are in fact different from them and bring some romance back to Vancouver.
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Vivien
What I find about Vancouver is that it is very difficult to meet someone and really get to know them. It is like people are very nice on the surface level, but if you aren't within their inner friends circle, you'll be ignored for most parts. I can't speak for others, but a lot of people keep to themselves (or inner circle) a lot (except via through social networking), and it makes it very hard to "break in" and get to know someone to date them and to get to know them. I do find that very discouraging about dating in Vancouver :S
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Sandra L.
I think Western cultural is pretty conservative. Vancouver is one of chosen one when it comes down to approaching someone in the public or social events, fashion, creative subjects, personality, and people. I guess its the cultural thing. Although Vancouver has been known as a multicultural city, there are limitation when it comes down to meeting that special someone who you can instantly connect in a deeper level or spark/chemistry. Perhaps, its the whole entire world since we are in the middle of lacking babies crisis.

There are great people in Vancouver included men, women, gay, and lesbian. The problem could be, INSECURITY!! In which, everyone has it included myself. We all have our fears, doubts, and questions wondering in our head. How to block them? Its not easy to write it here but it does takes a whole lot of will power to overcome it.

I found an article which its quite well written.... here it goes!
Everyone relationship in your life is a reflection of you. If you are being mistreated, it stems from an inner belief that allows you to attract that person. For example, if you don't feel as though you are worthy of another affection, you will in turn be attracted to men/women who reflect that back to you by cheating on you, leaving you, or putting you down-not someone to bring home to mama. Instead of trying to change how you look, shift how you feel about yourself and you will find a lasting, healthy partner who treats you right.
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romeogolf
Here's an example of why women remain single: http://talesfromabarstool.com/2011/02/bachelors/.

Don't look at my Facebook page? Look at it too closely and it creeps me out? What the hell do you have the information on Facebook for in the first place! Unless you've put your whole life story up there, there's plenty of mystery left. Facebook is a good way of evaluating a person's compatibility ahead of time. It offers starting points for conversation. Talk about creating a major barrier for getting to know someone!
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trisha H.
PERSONALLY I REFUSE TO TELL A MAN HOW TO BE A MAN , IF YOU ARE ATTRACTED TO SOMEONE, REMEMBER YOU ARE WEARING THE PANTS BE RPOMANTIC AND SPONTANEOUS AND APPROACH HER!!!!!!!!
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Di in Vancouver
I find that all men want young under 30 super models. I am attractive/pretty and 42, but look 35. I am not a size 6, but a size 11. I am in good shape and pretty. My last boyfriend was 34. I smile at good looking men all the time and more than half don't smile back. The only ones that smile at me, are the ones over 50, and i am not interested in them. All the movies brain wash men to think they have to have a women under 30 even if they are over 40 or 50. What gets me is i always see an average looking man with a pretty women, but rarely do i see the other way around. It's like there are so many good looking woman in vancouver that even the average looking men are getting them. It seems like men are afraid of a women talking to them...they think i want to pick them up when sometimes i just want to chit chat and be friendly. All these comments say women are snobs, I find men are snobs....and only smile to women who look like models that are under 30. It's fustrating.
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poppii
If there are great men in Vancouver,honestly I wish they would speak up rather than complain.And to be "great" in my book is just to be normal as in hardworking,focused and fun,clean and tidy,normal family ......

I mean is that really so difficult ? Is it difficult to be educated as well as in maybe a degree so that one can aspire to some job satisfaction ? Nobody wants some career crazy guy but a solid hardworking one is fine.

We can live in hope.........................:)
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Di in Vancouver
I don't agree with Ronald's statement that all men are looking for mommy figures and all woman are looking for wealth and dress poorly. Maybe he has his heart set on women who are high maintenace, dress in designer clothes, get their hair and nails down every month...these kind of women are looking for a man with wealth. If you want a woman who isn't after wealth, how about talking to other woman who are fashionable, or dress casual, but still look good, but aren't high maintenance. Also, woman who do not want children or have their own, are not looking for wealth, they can take care of theirselves. A woman who wants kids, wants a good life for herself and her children and so wants a man who can provide for her. That is not the same thing as a woman looking for weath.

As for men wanting mommy figures, only the men who still live at home, have mothers who spoil them and have not taught them how to cook and clean on their own....or men who have not lived on their own and have always lived with a girlfriend. There are certain cultures who tend to spoil their sons like this and for all the mothers out there, this is the worse thing you can do to your son. He will grow up wanting a wife to continue what his mother has done for him. Date a man who has lived on his own (not the ones who still bring their laundry home to mom), but the ones whose parents live in another city, or were brought up with a mom who didn't do everything for him, and you will find he will not want a mommy figure, but a woman who can take care of herself...just like he can.
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Chris G.
Here's a tip for "Tink": don't fuckin' name yourself Tink.
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Reindeer (as in tired of all the games)
Online dating is like the shopping network. I think men are so accustomed now to this approach that they just want to meet as many women as possible - they're enjoying the easy pickin's - always chasing younger, prettier, etc. Mostly, my impression is, that they're not interested in a monogamous 'real'ationship at all. To be fair, isn't this the primal male drive anyway and now it's just been packaged to them on a silver platter. Quality men wanting companionship - not just an endless promise of serial sex - are a rare and fading commodity. I guess this is the 'new age' of 'relationships'. What we've all been brought up to hope for and believe in is kinda dying out. This trend is reflected in the way we live anyway. Life has gotten faster, more impersonal and shallower. Everything is disposable and on demand. It's definitely lamentable that this McMentality has now struck to the heart of our deepest longings and sensitivities - love, or alas, the lack thereof. Perhaps, as some of the comments on this site suggest, this elusive quest is best pursued in those cultures and communities that don't travel at the speed of sound and genuine relating is still a highly valued quality beyond that of outward appearances. There does seem to be an inordinate amount of attention, money and energy devoted to the 'glitter factor' here - fashion, cars, money, youth - all things that next year's latest model will replace anyway. Relationship is like fine wine, best nurtured and developed over time in a 'climate controlled' environment. I don't think Vancouver has a conducive climate to this pursuit. As a community we neither value nor know how to participate in being outwardly friendly, relaxed and social to people we informally cross paths with. There is an air of suspicion and distrust. We're travelling as fast as we can to cover as many bases as possible in the hectic stress of our day to day lives. This is not a warm, sandy beach paradise that invites that kind of laid back, shoot the breeze and enjoy the social pleasures of life attitude. Unless one chooses to change - there's the path to turn things around here, but I wouldn't count on it overnight. Best of luck to all those looking - me too!
If you agree, let me know: mooniebeams@rocketmail.com
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sarsnake
@poppi: If you are not willing to share someone's emotional baggage, i assume you are fresh out of highschool? Being sarcastic here, but you know, pretty much any man over the age of 25 has emotional baggage...so, I think you are being too picky.


Vancouver is notoriously known for "hard to meet people" type of a place. I am not single, but still remember that it was difficult to meet people. I agree with Jennifer33, the feminism killed men. They are confused and have no clue what to do. The media brainwashed them to want a slim attractive girl and there you have it: a serial dater who never settles and for whom no one is good enough. I know men who are over 50 who are like that.

But the women aren't guilt free either, most have completely unrealistic expectations of men: rich, good looking, well-mannered etc etc....and dismiss a perfectly fine guy based on some idiotic criteria.

Oh ya, people here are super uptight too which doesn't help the situation.
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sarsnake
@raindeer:
"This is not a warm, sandy beach paradise that invites that kind of laid back, shoot the breeze and enjoy the social pleasures of life attitude."
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Excellent point! the weather here sucks 99% of the time which makes people more reserved. I have been in warmer places and men there are way more straight forward in approaching women.
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sarsnake
@Di, no offense, but you being 42 and not interested in men over 50 is a little bit bizarre. You seem to be interested in younger men, which is a bit paradoxical considering that you diss men for being interested in younger/slimmer women. There is nothing wrong with wanting a younger man, just don't criticize men when they want a younger woman.

And at 42, I think it's time to lower your standards, otherwise you may remain single forever.
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viorelli
I can tell you why many men here are reserved, I had been married, divorced and taken to the cleaners for 50% of my assets, luckily I had investments on company and relatives which she could not touch. I am running three business of which one is located oversas and my little free time is extremely valuable, therefore I don't have time for any games and dates. If I need intimacy i seek the women which match the criteria without complications and too much expectations, sometimes I get lucky, sometimes not. There is always an option of paying for some intimacy or going to Thailand for a month (some of the most gorgeous girls with very little macho women trait), GOOD LUCK TO ALL THE SEEKERS IN THIS LITTLE TOWN.
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Julie
The Toronto area (and Ottawa as well) is just as hard to find a man. My best friend and I live in these cities, and are still single. We are two good-looking women in our 30s but can easily pass as being in our 20s. We are both so frustrated with the shallowness of men.

I have tried online dating for almost a month, but have given that up because there are a bunch of scammers or perverts on there that even show pictures of their opened packages. Yeah, like I am just going to hop in the sack with some random dude. Okay, perhaps you think I'm a prude. Okay, bring it on.

The available men in Toronto are players that only care about what you look like. When I was doing online dating for about a month, a guy in the Toronto area turned out to be obnoxious, and asked for more pictures and how much I weighed. I am actually very slim, but to get him off my back I sent him some random pictures of a couple of heavy women. Never heard from him again so that just proves just how shallow this city is.

Some of the men are actually so rude that they seem to forget that I'm a woman. I make an effort to look good. Today, I was even wearing a summer dress that shows my petite frame. But even today at the grocery store, when I was loading my food unto the belt, some guy started putting food on there when I was still unloading. I politely explained that I wasn't finished, he smirked and told me to relax.

Anyway, enough of my rant. My best friend and I made a pact last Good Friday that we are both going to be involved within a year. If not that I guess I'll just do AI.
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msteri
I find it hard to believe that men in Vancouver have difficulty meeting women. Women outnumber you 5 to 1! Now, being a single woman in this city is brutal—the competition between women is cut throat out there. The statistics show, it's man drought in Vancouver. Women, in a desperate attempt to one-up each other and get noticed, are resorting to acting over-sexualized, dressing very poorly, and generally end up behaving more like men than women. It don’t work my sisters”¦ not for the long haul anyway”¦ if that’s what you seek. To add to the singles social dysfunction, online dating has not helped out men or women alike. It's become mainstream to sit in front of a computer and try to meet other eligible singles this way. Instead of learning necessary social skills, online dating offers the opportunity to not really have to work on yourself, improve important social skills, and not take any risks (unless you consider slowly but surely losing every ounce of real social ability). This is why when online daters, who do finally meet someone in person, who was perfect on paper, immediately feel disappointment after meeting face to face. Social skills have atrophied like a flabby bum that won’t get up off the couch. No one goes outside and talks anymore. My experience is, men have no problems stopping to stare, they will even take a huge risk and say hello, and then keep on walking. I remember a time when men would walk up to me in the grocery store or on the street, give me their business card or number, politely say, "I think you are very beautiful, I would love to take you for coffee", smile and walk away. What the hell is wrong with that?? It is very frustrating and I am on the verge of leaving my beautiful Vancouver. I’ll end with this one thing to say to all single men, “Please, for the love of God, step away from the computer, reach down between your legs, have a feel, confirm... yup there they are... a definite pair”¦ go outside and talk to 3 real live girls today”. Best, T.
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BeReel
I could never figure Vancouver out. Woman can be nice, but they can also be unfriendly and they rarely seem to welcome outsiders of their established social circle. People like to have long term groups of friends (cliques) and anyone new to them is possibly viewed as an outsider. I think Vancouver is a hard city to meet people. I no longer live there, but when I did, I approached quite a few woman with not too much success. But then again, sometimes younger woman were quite friendly to me... like I say, I think woman in Vancouver are hard to understand.
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jonathan
i have tried for the last 5-6 years....wtf! theres honestly nothing out here...i live in the yaletown area and have grown up all my life in vancouver and all i see is money money money!, honestly there is no heart out here!, and i feel really guilty about myself, because i know that I have some money, not alot, but when i do, and drive a fancy car, most the girls are going to come up to me or i'll at least get their attention, but deep down inside, i'll know that its not because what I am, or because im a good looking guy, but because I have lots of $$ and thats all they're after! i mean, honestly in vancouver, if you really think about it! money speaks louder than words! but before i get off track there are some girls out here in vancouver that actually go beyond, and will like you or love you for who you are, but most of them are taken and others are hard to find, from my perspective! sometimes it would be so bad and depressing trying to find a descent one, that i would rather commit suicide than live in a depressing city like this alone. So i walk the streets alone, trying to find the perfect or half descent, loving caring, or at least someone who is willing to have a descent conversation for more than 2 minutes, but again and again....faliure, and i ask myself, why? who am i? is it something i did wrong? i honestly dont know, but i can say from my point of view vancouver is one of the most toughest cities to find women in north america, and possibly the world. I might as well just move out and search elsewhere. one more thing before i finish this comment!....this is all based on my oppinion, and if anyone feels the same way or simular, plz speak your mind! thanks guys and girls!
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Luciana
It's hard to make friends here, let alone date; Vancouverites are extraordinarily clique-y, as mentioned in prior comments. I grew up in the southern USA where we are apparently notorious for our abundant southern hospitality, so when I moved here it was quite a culture shock. I reckoned it was due to the faster paced lifestyle, which is easy to get caught up in. But the friends I did happen to make here were all originally from different countries, particularly Mexicans and Asians. And I don't know if it's coincidence but each man that I've gone "official" with since moving to Van was either American or European. I'm a very outgoing and attractive person and I have found a fair number of Vancouver men who do in fact make a valiant effort initially, and have agreed to go out on dates with. But then I also find just as quickly that the majority of them are flakes, and I don't take any bullshit so I don't play into their game. At first I wasn't sure if they were flaking because of insecurity or if they realised they really were not interested in me after all. But then I discovered, every single time, that it turns out they were already in a relationship, a "monogamous" relationship. And I'm sorry ladies, but I've witnessed with my own eyes... many of you are capable of such cruelty it's any wonder men even bother. So as much as I love Vancouver as a city, the personalities in the dating scene need an overhaul. As for myself, I currently am in a relationship... with a man residing in Oregon, whom I met while he was on vacation here. Go figure!
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Jonas Johnson
Vancouver is tough. In fact, even my dad complained how tough it was, and that was back in the 70's! I'm sad to see that not much has changed.

When I went overseas to teach English, I was approached by women everyday who wanted to know if I was single. They would just straight up ask me, at the cafe, at the department store, where ever I went. But, when I came back to Vancouver, it became an icy cold front all around. Even though I was exactly the same guy overseas, no woman would approach me. Even worse, no woman would talk to me other than single syllable grunts of dismissal. It was disheartening and I wished that I had never come back.

Now I just focus on asian girls. At least they smile, acknowledge my existance, and are warm and friendly. The girls here always seem to raise their eyebrows in paranoid suspicion and completely shut off. It's so strange.
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