Fees for international acts prompt concerns for Vancouver music venues

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      New application fees implemented this summer under Canada’s temporary foreign worker program are being criticized as “ludicrous” and "devastating" by some local music promoters.

      As of July 31, employers applying to hire temporary foreign workers are required to pay a $275 fee for a Labour Market Opinion (LMO) for each worker.

      According to Alexandra Fortier, press secretary for Minister of Employment and Social Development Jason Kenney, the Canadian government wanted to ensure that the fee was paid for by the employer instead of taxpayers.

      “This fee already existed, it’s just that the taxpayer would pay it and not the employer,” Fortier told the Straight by phone. “This is for any temporary foreign worker application that requires an LMO. So be it…an employer who requests a temporary foreign worker to work in a factory, or in this case, musicians from a U.S. band.”

      But promoter Aaron Schubert of NightHeat Entertainment said the changes are likely to adversely affect some small venues in Vancouver that bring in international acts.

      “It’s the idea of a band from the U.S. comes in, right when they’re about to blow up, and they’re still only selling about 150 tickets, it’s those early days of that band playing those small venues,” said Schubert. “It’s going to wipe out those small bars or restaurants that want to be venues as well.”

      David Duprey, whose venue the Rickshaw Theatre will not be impacted by the fees, also criticized the change. He questioned what impetus it will give bands touring the West Coast to come up to Vancouver from Seattle and perform at a small venue.

      “It’s devastating,” he said in a phone interview. “It’s a lot of money…For the 100, 150-people venues, it’s just not economically viable.”

      Fortier said the federal government’s main concern is to ensure that Canadians are considered first.

      “That’s the whole point of the Labour Market Opinion,” she said. “We want to make sure that the employer did his due diligence, that he went to see if Canadians were available first, before asking an American band to come play at their bar or restaurant.”

      Schubert said many venues depend on booking some international acts, and Canadian bands can gain valuable exposure by opening for higher-profile touring groups. 

      “If there were enough Canadian bands to pull that off, I would say great, but there aren’t,” he said. “There’s not enough Canadian bands touring that can actually sell out a medium-sized venue.”

      He added that musicians shouldn't be compared with workers in other sectors. 

      "Musicians are not workers, they are artists," he said. "Canadian musicians improve by seeing international artists perform and interacting with them, gaining inspiration from them and of course gaining exposure from their audience."

      A request to Employment and Social Development Canada for details on what types of music venues will be affected by the fees was not returned by the Straight’s deadline.

      According to the ministry’s website, international musicians in a band performing multiple dates in Canada do not need to apply for a work permit or a Labour Market Opinion—but that exemption does not apply to musicians performing in bars and restaurants.

      petition against the new fees has been launched, drawing signatures from over 80,000 people as of Thursday evening. 

      Comments

      17 Comments

      MessagetothePM_ACDCwasntborninavacuum

      Aug 29, 2013 at 8:53pm

      It all comes down to political misunderstanding and ignorance to the nature of the creative field. Many of these bands come to Canada where they (1) provide creative inspiration for concert goers with musical aspirations and (2) provide opportunities for promoters to boost local acts through opening slots, thereby exposing them to concert goers who may otherwise have little knowledge of the local music ongoings. The government's stupidity here is frankly borderline offensive. And, personally as a musician, knowing that some of my own band's biggest breaks have come through these slots, it's infuriating to the point of seizure.

      lyle

      Aug 29, 2013 at 9:48pm

      Jason Kenney = gravy sucking bottom feeder!!!

      Alan Layton

      Aug 29, 2013 at 10:23pm

      This is bad news. We already have enough barriers to discourage international acts without this fee. Canadian music is just fine. Canadian musical figures are world renown, even if you don't like their music. If Canada wants to promote Canadian music (and I support that) then put more money in to developing it. The most important thing is to let them compete on a level playing field, with the rest of the world. Canadian musicians can stand their ground without creating a false world for them.

      Kevin

      Aug 30, 2013 at 9:06am

      This is a case of the innocent suffering for the actions of the guilty.

      Large corporations are importing workers and labour from overseas that could usually be filled by Canadians - these are usually the lowest wage, mass employment actions that benefit from such action by paying minimally and avoiding any employer responsibilities that come with following normal Canadian employment law. Paying a few dollars less per hour for a subservient employee makes sense when you have hundreds of them and don't have to worry about worker rights getting in the way of profits. These are the large mining companies, retailers, industrial and manufacturing companies, even banks and many, many small companies, that don't bat an eyelid at paying $275 per imported employee, since hiring a local person (along with the interview process and costs) and paying (and treating) them decently would cost more than that in the first month anyway - so for these companies, the fee should actually be far higher (and in fact the fee as a deterrent is a band-aid on a government cancer).

      But, the flip side I do sympathise with (and admittedly never considered until now) is for artists, musicians etc that have a legitimate and plausible need to travel often and for short periods to earn a living.

      The TFW program needs to be completely reviewed and overhauled to apply appropriately across various industries and, instead of applying a blanket fee structure, employ people and methods that are more effective, fair, and justified in who they ultimately end up allowing to earn money in Canada. After all, isn't that what it was created for in the first place?

      If you want further proof of the failure of the TFW program, all one has to do is look at how far the federal and provincial governments go to bust unions and organized labour. It's a race to the bottom in terms of how to keep the economy afloat, balance unemployment and the juxtaposed, ironic need for skilled labour to fill jobs, all while investing as little as possible in systems, policies, or people that can manage the juggling act properly. And who suffers? Honest, skilled, organized labour from within our own borders. And musicians and artists become collateral damage.

      Sean Law

      Aug 30, 2013 at 10:07am

      It (generally) already cost more than a small unknown band could possibly make at their locally-repressed and under-attended gig, staged in the shitty area of town where all of their equipment will get stolen by junkie thieves. And now it will cost even more for this grand honour!

      HellSlayerAndy

      Aug 30, 2013 at 10:36am

      Because of size and pop distribution, it's never going to be in the financial interests of any up and coming Canadian act to tour Canada even regionally; it's not feasible, so no amount of restrictions on foreign acts is going to change that reality.

      iang62

      Aug 30, 2013 at 12:30pm

      There have been recent developments in the movie industry also to prevent American actors and even background performers coming in to BC and taking jobs from people who could easily do the job here.
      The Canadian music industry may have to rely less on Americans and stand more on its own two feet at the small venue level. If anything these regulation level the playing field for American musicians coming to Canada as it is for Canadians heading south.
      I think it is a good idea and we need to step up to the plate and make it happen.

      Missing The Point

      Aug 30, 2013 at 2:23pm

      Alexandra Fortier is a dumb-ass:
      “That’s the whole point of the Labour Market Opinion,” she said. “We want to make sure that the employer did his due diligence, that he went to see if Canadians were available first, before asking an American band to come play at their bar or restaurant.”

      Do they think that bands playing at all live venues are just cover bands or something!? Wow ... that is some ignorance!

      The reality is you can only go so far with an all Canadian/local scene ... you bring up a US band that had a draw & you get a busy venue, employing wait staff, bouncers, sound engineers, etc ... THERE is the economy being generated!

      It's funny that they can spout off like they're being so protectionist about Canadian arts, when most acts they tend to champion based on their popularity in the US/abroad!?

      BD

      Aug 30, 2013 at 7:58pm

      The Steve-O way. Mega Dorks turned loose on Canada. In high school, we wouldn't even bother to rag on this sort. Better to ignore than torment. GET OUT AND VOTE next election and kick the bastards out! Better still, get active in your local riding to really make a difference.

      Sorely Disappointed

      Aug 30, 2013 at 11:10pm

      I operate a nightclub venue that previously specialized in bringing in DJ entertainers. We not only employ the best local DJ talents, as well as the best in Western Canada, but had been bringing in alot of international talent. We would only ever book the international talent on weekdays (weekends are already quite busy), when we would normally be very very slow, or even closed. These high-profile shows would create business for us, therefore creating more CANADIAN jobs, like our bartenders, servers, coat check girls, security workers, janitors, managers, dancers, and cooks. Our venue is pretty small by most standards - 250 capacity - so our DJ show budgets are already pretty tight as it is. Frequently we are already struggling to break even on the shows, and any extra cost is difficult to explain to customers, but we see value in filling our venue and keeping our staff gainfully employed. Now however, we'll just be closed. Tell me how that helps our Canadian staff of 25 people?