City of Vancouver proposes separated bike lane on Cornwall Avenue and Point Grey Road

The City of Vancouver is seeking public input on a proposal to install a separated bike lane on Point Grey Road and Cornwall Avenue, as well as close parts of Point Grey Road to cars, in Kitsilano.

Poll

Do you support the addition of a separated bike lane on Point Grey Road and Cornwall Avenue?

Yes 55%
83 votes
No 40%
60 votes
Maybe 5%
8 votes

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The first open house on the Point Grey Road-Cornwall Avenue Corridor Active Transportation Project took place today (January 29) at the Maritime Museum. Two more open houses are scheduled, at Queen Mary Elementary School on January 31 and Kitsilano Community Centre on February 2.

According to the city website, the project aims to create “a safe, convenient and comfortable connection for pedestrians and cyclists between Burrard Bridge and Jericho Beach”.

Electronic copies of the display boards for the open house show one of the “ideas” being floated is the separation of cyclists from traffic on Point Grey Road and Cornwall Avenue.

Another idea: “Close sections of Point Grey Road, extend park space across road, creating a local street.”

Improvements for pedestrians and cyclists on the West 3rd Avenue local street bikeway and the introduction of a “cycling facility” on York Avenue are also being considered.

The maps on the display boards allude to the possibility of extending the seawall along the Point Grey foreshore, west of Kitsilano Beach.

City hall is suggesting the realignment of the Burrard Street and Cornwall Avenue intersection at the southwest end of the Burrard Bridge, so pedestrians and cyclists would have “shorter and fewer crossings”.

The possible realignment would “maintain the same number of lanes on and off the bridge and maintain all motor vehicle movements”, a display board states.

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Richard Campbell
That would be a huge improvement for Burrard and Cornwall. They should let pedestrians cross on the north side of the intersection so they don't have wait for 2 signals.

Separated bike lanes on Cornwall is the best option to encourage people of all ages to cycle. Bike routes should be obvious and direct. If not, many people will either miss the turn onto York or just decide take the shorter route and battle the traffic. Either way, a lot of people will still cycle along Cornwall. York is also much hillier increasing effort and increasing the risk of injury when riding downhill.
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skippy
I have lived in Kits for over 20 years. I do two hour walks every Saturday and Sunday and on days off. I have encountered no safety issues as a pedestrian. This is coded vision nonsense for bike lanes. And BTW, cycled in the area regularly and have similarly had no safety issues. I have however, been severely inconvenienced by traffic congestion along Cornwall as a bus/cab passenger and no doubt Vision's idiotic plans to further constrict Cornwall street will add to the inconvenience.
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eddieo
Yes!
This is a terribly dangerous road for bikes, and the alternative for bikers is so hilly that most - not me - won't opt for it.
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Mark Bowen
Cornwall / Point Grey is really dangerous as it currently is. Traffic volume and speed is much to high considering the layout of the roads, on street parking and the fact that it's a residential area. Definitely a good place to consider some improvements.
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Lee L.
Am I wrong or is there already a bike route a couple of blocks North of Cornwall?


I see Vision is at it again with the war on cars. Anything at all to make it uncomfortable to drive a vehicle... manufacturing congestion.
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Lee L.
I mean.. south of Cornwall.
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604commuter
Another disastrous idea - more congestion, longer commutes and congestion charges on the horizon.

But the main question is:
"Is it acceptable to turn a public, arterial road into a private access road for local residents and fringe lobbyists?"

Some might cringe at "fringe" but the facts are clear:
3.2km - An average BC cylists rides 3.2km per trip (according to BC Cycling coalition) - that does not even get them to downtown from PGR and Blenheim.

5% - percentage of cyclist commuters on Burrard Br - same as in mid-1990's

1% - percentage of cyclist commuters to UBC - down from 3% in 1997
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Ah No to this Proposal
Folks who ride bikes do not deserve the "Special Status" Mayor Moonbeam wants to grant them. While I know bike lanes are needed they should be on the street south & parallel to Cornwall and Point Grey Road.

70,000 folks a day commute to UBC and many folks in this area of the West Side drive to or thru downtown to work. Make vehicle traffic more efficient and reduce pollution.

One more time, build a City for UBC students and staff on the Endowment Lands for 50 - 60,000 and this will reduce vehicle traffic. This way there will also be no need for a Billion Dollar Skytrain down West Broadway.
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ODB@
I would prefer riding on the proposed seawall extension through this area, but otherwise there should be a bike lane on Cornwall/Point Grey. At least get rid of the street parking - it's narrow and dangerous, as cars insist on doing 60km/h or more despite the 30km/h speed limit. Vancouver needs to be more bike-friendly!
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Vacheron
Bike lanes should be tolled.
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Pat
An extension of the seawall from Kits Beach to Jericho was supported by most folks in Vancouver in poll after poll.

But Parks Board members were intimidated by and caved to 200 vocal, wealthy property owners on Cornwall who didn't want to lose their "private" waterfront.

If a new bike lane on Cornwall takes away their street parking now, this is almost funny.
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Martin Dunphy
Pat:

If you recall, though, the original seawall proposal came about only because of one wealthy property owner who offered to pay for the extension--reportedly in an attempt to reduce the flow of traffic past his palatial home.
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Elvira Lount
Why cycle on Cornwall when you can use York, 1st, 2nd or 3rd to get on or off Burrard, or when you can go around Kits Point to and from False Creek. The traffic on Cornwall is congested enough as it is. We live at 1st & Trafalgar. We already drive along 1st Ave to get to and from downtown to avoid the traffic on Cornwall. This isn't ideal because Ist Ave is so narrow. I once sideswiped a car parked on 1st when an oncoming vehicle wouldn't slow down or move out of the way. If part of Cornwall is blocked off and turned into a bike lane, Cornwall would become impossible as a route to get to and from home, Ist Ave would become a major dangerous thoroughfare creating more traffic and noise outside our house as cars tried to get home in that area, or through to Macdonald. And 4th Avenue would become impassable between Burrard & Macdonald. It's already busy enough as it is and I avoid it as much as possible. So, a Cornwall bike lane would be disastrous for local residents and there's no point. I have to think about the Point Grey Road option and am confused by the diagram of the realignment of Burrard & Cornwall but it makes sense to do something here. As for pedestrians on Cornwall there aren't really that many as it's exactly not the scenic route. There's been a lot of neighbourhood consulation abut the Point Grey Rd bike lane option with local Point Grey residents. There's been no consultation with residents of Kits living south of Cornwall. The Cornwall bike lane plan is news to us. ... The seawall extension option referred to in the plans is a non-starter. 634 have signed the petition against - KEEP KITS BEACH WILD, SAY NO TO THE SEAWALL. Ultimately it comes down to the law. The waterfront property owners will NEVER allow a seawall for bikes etc to be build in front of their properties and take away their Riparian rights to access to deep water -- which is BC common-law. They ALL have to approve any interference in their Riparian rights which is not going to happen. They have the big bucks to sue City Hall and take it all the way to the Supreme Court which will cost the City millions without even a seawall being built. The City knows this, the Park Board knows this. Don't know why they continue to include this as an option as it isn't.
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Vision Supporter
YES.. we need improved bike lanes on the Point Grey - Cornwall corridor.
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William Sims
Stop wasting more of our tax payer dollars on stupid bike lane studies like the one proposed for Cornwall Street and Point Grey Road. There are already bike designated through streets on West 3rd Avenue and West 7th thence 8th Avenue.
Pt. Grey Road is very narrow. It and Cornwall provide through access to Jericho and Spanish Banks and residences in the Kitsilano and Point Grey areas. You've screwed up the downtown royally. How much more chaos do you want to create? A number of downtown streets now have 4 to 5 traffic signals, some red, some green, all at the same time. One doesn't know what the hell they're supposed to do: stop, go, move sideways, takeoff or disappear. The sign contractor must be a multi millionaire by now. Get you heads out of thin air and get a grip on reality!
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Margaret
I cycle from Macdonald via York to downtown twice a week for work. There is no need to encourage cyclists on Cornwall/Point Grey and certainly no need to spend money on NEW routes when alternatives are already there (34rd & York). Don't do this - Point Grey thing - Besides being wasteful, it will throw the whole neighborhood off in terms of traffic, including pedestrian traffic. Kits is already in delicate balance with its high density and multi modalities.
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Jane
Eliminate the parking on Point Grey Road west of MacDonald & create a bike lane. This is a simple solution and should satisfy everyone but for home owners on Point Grey Road whose goal is to have a private enclave rather than support cyclists. In fact, currently parking is allowed on both sides of Pt Grey Road..eliminating one side would solve the problem for calming and cyclists.
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John
It is a shame that VISION continues to create conflicts between cyclists and existing transportation users. There are a number very viable cycle route alternatives that could have been proposed. There is no need to close West Point Grey Road. The routes on 1st and 3rd take advantage of quiet, safe residential streets. Some thing would need to be done to connect MacDonald to Kits Pool but this would be a minor impact compared to what is proposed.

One of Vancouver's major cycling assets is it residential street network and the City should make it a priority to leverage these as much as possible. In many cases in the past, it has.

Something else must be happening here. Is it part of VISION's vision that it must "teach" us all to abandon our cars? VISION seems to be more about dictating how we live our lives than making our City livable.

No wonder we don't have civic engagement -- VISION never listens to anyone except the minority that supports its views.

I have commuted to work by bike for over 30 years -- long before any cycle infrastructure. I welcome well-concieved additions to cycle infrastructure but have no desire to ride on or near busy arterial roads -- nor is there any need to. By encouraging new cyclists to ride on Cornwall and PG Road, we are doing them a great disservice.
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pamela mccoll
Since conducting six open houses and two surveys and oer 50 stakeholder meetings the city will now have a good read of what people think about their proposal to improve the safety of walking and cycling from the Burrard Street Bridge to Jericho Beach. These safety measures will hopefully provide greater access and encourage more people to use these recreational areas and commute by modes other than cars along this corridor. The option to extend Tatlow Park at Macdonald for better access to the shoreline, and diverting cars up Burrard and other routes will make it safer for cyclists to share the road between Macdonald and Alma. With this reduction in cars the area will be made safer for pedestrians as well, joggers, and people wishing to use the ocean side parks including Jericho. The option 2A is supported by the residents and neighborhood, by the cycling association HUB, by Positively Pedestrians of Vancouver, and is a great solution. The will be more commuter car traffic on other routes but the City has said they will address safety issues on those streets and make improvements where needed. Studies show that in coming years there will be more trips by bike, foot and public transit and this is an important decision at this time. There is a petition circulating that supports the City's plans and it has had overwhelming support. There are only 180 homes on Point Grey Road between Macdonald and Alma and the petition has signatures in the thousands taken from the users of the area, who come from all over the lower mainland and in fact the world - to take advantage of the beaches and scenery.
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f. nestman
just returned from the dreaded walk from kits pool to jericho along pt.grey rd. Counted at least 20 cyclists cycling on the sidewalk because I assume they are too afraid of the road. They come silently up behind me and scare me. Hedges on many properties are overhanging the sidewalk by at least 30 percent. For me, this is a terrifying walk. Not much room for 2 way pedestrians -never mind the cyclists on the sidewalk. Something needs to be done. I am a senior and could have been wiped out at least 20 times today.
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Display boards from Point Grey Road-Cornwall Avenue Corridor open houses

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