Backlash rises over Vancouver's First Shaughnessy District conservation plan

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      Senior Vancouver city staff’s proposal to ban demolition of pre-1940 houses in First Shaughnessy District has generated a heated response.

      It’s one of several measures included in a rezoning application to create Vancouver’s first “heritage conservation area” in the neighbourhood bounded by West 16th and King Edward avenues and Arbutus and Oak streets.

      Of the 143 letters sent to the city, 89 were in favour of general manager of planning and development Brian Jackson’s recommendation to council. However, a majority of speakers at a public hearing on July 28 were opposed, and their written submissions to the city reveal how worried they are about the effect on property values.

      One speaker, real-estate agent Peter Saito, said that he and his partner, Vivian Lee, have sold almost $100 million worth of property in Shaughnessy since the start of 2014.

      “Today, not many people will dare to actually buy a run-down pre-1940 house anymore,” Saito wrote in his submission. “The last 4 sales in 1st Shaughnessy not on a busy street have all been post 1940s.”

      Those “demolishable lots” were priced at $642 per square foot. He claimed that a pre-1940 house would have to be sold for $400 per square foot, which would be a considerable discount.

      “Someone truly desperate to sell enough because of circumstance will eventually agree to sell at this price,” Saito stated.

      Another speaker, Nancy Tchou, claimed that banning demolitions of pre-1940 homes in First Shaughnessy will “choke” development, leading to the deterioration of the neighbourhood. “There will be a lot more dilapidated eyesores,” she stated in her written submission.

      Tchou alleged that some property owners are unable or unwilling to maintain old, rundown homes and huge yards due to their financial circumstances, health, advanced age, and/or other reasons. And she insisted that there are buyers prepared to invest millions of dollars to redevelop these sites “only if demolition is allowed”.

      The written submission from Loy Leland claimed that not all houses built before 1940 are worth saving. Leland also declared that the process has “created cynicism and mistrust”.

      Another speaker, Pearl Chow, maintained in her written presentation that the proposed changes “would have grave impact on the value of my property as well as the beauty and development of First Shaughnessy”.

      An economic analysis by Coriolis Consulting Corp. suggested in a report to the city that incentives—such as allowing secondary suites, coach houses, infill units, and multiple-conversion dwellings—would enable homeowners to generate more revenue. The consulting company acknowledged that lots between 18,000 and 30,000 square feet “appear to be the most negatively affected”.

      But the firm stated that this “might be offset” by permitting two infill units rather than one on these sites.

      That didn’t satisfy Chow. She mentioned in her written submission that a person doesn’t spend millions of dollars on a beautiful home in a very good neighbourhood so a unit can be rented out. She also claimed that having tenants would “negatively impact” privacy.

      “I feel that the characters [sic] of First Shaughnessy would be significantly improved if the pre-1940 houses are allowed to be demolished and rebuilt with stricter guidelines to ensure desirable designs are retained, rebuilt or added; rather than imposing a blanket ban on demolition of all pre-1940 houses,” she wrote. “There are already a good number of houses in First Shaughnessy on the Heritage list.”

      Another speaker, Victor Wong, also urged council to lift the prohibition on redevelopment of pre-1940 homes.

      “The pre-40s home property will lose market value in comparison to those who have the right to build,” he wrote.

      There were more than 40 other short form letters from Shaughnessy homeowners on the list of July 28 speaker submissions. They declared support for existing zoning and opposed creation of a heritage conservation area.

      All of this suggests that this controversy likely won’t die down when the public hearing reconvenes on September 15.

      Heritage advocates are keen to retain those old homes in Shaughnessy, even if not all of the residents agree with this idea.

      Comments

      18 Comments

      Organmorgan

      Aug 5, 2015 at 12:31pm

      The predictable criticisms from multi-millionaire property flippers pretty much prove the point of this rare enlightened proposal.

      Anonymous

      Aug 5, 2015 at 12:54pm

      would it really be so bad if hugely inflated property values are reduced?

      EnoughAlready

      Aug 5, 2015 at 1:20pm

      Please God property prices decline. That 'may' deter these people from even wanting to purchase these gorgeous houses, which will solve this issue.

      I can't believe what's happening to Vancouver, it saddens & infuriates me. Why oh why are we listening to Realtors and Developers in regards to our heritage homes?

      Neighborhood Watch

      Aug 5, 2015 at 1:30pm

      Wow, the million dollar plus properties in Shaughnessy will become run down eye sores! Seriously? If those privileged enough to have owned them can't maintain them at today's cost of living levels... Too bad! So you don't get $6 million and have to settle for 2 or $3 million boo hoo. The developers and real estate mafia can go hang. This could be the start of at least bringing some sanity back in the market. Heritage buildings are what give cities and neighborhoods their character. Vancouver has enough crappy looking modern buildings that add no character or charm to the city.

      Organ rinder's monkey

      Aug 5, 2015 at 1:37pm

      Perhaps if new houses built could conform to certain style like say the pre 1940's fake tudor style but when the old houses come down you will see a mixture of old and modern which might like Point Grey Road.

      Anyway the developers will always get their way. The cost maintaining of those old houses combined with the taxes must be huge. Bring in the offshore nouveau riche immediately.

      Eyesores R'us

      Aug 5, 2015 at 3:21pm

      No, no, allow Chip Wilson to throw up more monstrosities... Money always = taste!

      Not being allowed to re-develop and having to renovate and preserve heritage = Good news.

      Hint: V V

      Aug 5, 2015 at 4:41pm

      "Vancouver has enough crappy looking modern buildings that add no character or charm to the city"

      Now WHO do you think is responsible for that?

      What gives

      Aug 5, 2015 at 5:48pm

      Given the property sizes and the lack of land, I say swing the wrecking balls. Just as every other community in this city has had to. DEAL WITH IT!

      At What Gives

      Aug 5, 2015 at 10:36pm

      So swing the wrecking ball to destroy our Heritage homes to be replaced by single family Monster new homes?

      huh?

      What are the positives to this scenario?

      Point of Order

      Aug 6, 2015 at 8:26am

      We need to preserve examples of heritage buildings..... but for crying out load.. not every example. Those multi million dollar estates are taking up prime land that could be re-purposed to allow for more reasonably affordable housing. We don't need a third of the city protected for gazillionaires..... we need to make sure low and middle income folks can stay in the city. Buildings are all nice but they don't make the city. PEOPLE make the city. Am I the only person that sees that CITY and CITIZEN come from the same entomological root, where as Automobile, Building and Bicycle do not.