North Vancouver surplus school sites debated

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      About six months ago, a report was prepared about two surplus school properties on the North Shore.

      Residential development was suggested for both the former Cloverley elementary school and the Lucas Centre/Leo Marshall Curriculum Centre, once a secondary school.

      A month before the November 15 municipal election, the North Vancouver school board, whose trustees come from both the City of North Vancouver and the District of North Vancouver, reported that the sites have neither been sold nor placed in a process for their sale.

      The board at that time also indicated that it looked forward to a new series of public consultations beginning in 2015 about the two City of North Vancouver properties.

      It’s a discussion that returning school trustee Susan Skinner is eager to have.

      “It’s so important to take our fiduciary duty very seriously and responsibly on behalf of the community, and not just for today’s needs but for tomorrow,” Skinner told the Georgia Straight in a December 9 phone interview.

      Skinner, starting her fourth term, took the call a few hours before the new North Vancouver school board’s inaugural meeting; according to her, the mandate received by the new board in the last election is clear.

      “When you look at this election, it is very telling, I would say, you know, [that] 80 to 95 percent of the public do not want public lands sold,” she said.

      Including the Cloverley and Lucas Centre sites, the North Vancouver school district has 11 surplus school sites, a situation that came about because of declining enrollment.

      Five of these former schools have been leased to various users. One—Blueridge Elementary in the District of North Vancouver—will be closed when Seymour Heights Elementary is replaced with a bigger school. Another site was sold to the District of North Vancouver for road-improvement purposes. Two others have been bought for future housing developments.

      In October, a status report on the 11 surplus properties noted that the retention of sites through long-term leases not only provides revenues but also “offers protection to address potential future capacity needs”.

      However, according to the same report, returns from leases, “while significant, are generally not sufficient to support financing of major capital initiatives, such as school replacement projects”.

      “Where appropriate, the School District will consider the potential sale or long term lease of a site to achieve the funding necessary to reinvest in major capital initiatives,” the document also stated. “At the same time, the School District will continue to consider longer-term lease options that provide the opportunity to generate significant operating revenue, while continuing to retain ownership of the site.”

      For Skinner, who is a mother of four school-age children, the choice should be easy.

      “If you talk to an economist, they say…it doesn’t make a lot of financial sense to sell your real estate to deal with…current capital needs,” she said. “It is the responsibility of the provincial government to fund our schools [and] our capital needs.”

      During the last election campaign, Skinner noted in a phone interview with the Straight that she and Barry Forward, who was then seeking a third term as trustee, have been advocating the retention of public ownership of the surplus sites for alternative community use and future educational needs.

      Skinner also indicated at that time that she wanted to see newcomer Megan Higgins, a lawyer and mother of three school-age children, win a seat on the school board because they share the same thoughts about keeping public lands.

      Higgins told the Straight by phone during the campaign that the City of North Vancouver’s population is expected to grow in the years ahead, and that it would need more schools.

      Like Skinner, Forward and Higgins won in the election, which means that there are going to be at least three members on the seven-member school board who will push for community uses for these properties instead of outright sale.

      Skinner said: “It would be up to the new board to take a look where we’re at in the process.”

      Comments

      4 Comments

      A concerned North Vancouver resident

      Dec 10, 2014 at 9:11pm

      Someone should ask Susan Skinner why in her first term (2005-2008) that unanimously approved the sale of Lonsdale Elementary School site, the board office on Chesterfield, as well as disposition of the Braemar parcel of land and the Argyle parcel of land. Furthermore the board from 2005-2008 unanimously requested a loan from the Ministry of Eduction for the additional $7.2 million needed for Sutherland Secondary & Westview Elementary. This same board that Ms. Skinner was on unanimously voted to send a letter to ask for a loan on the future sale of surplus school land. Ms. Skinner was part of the board that has hog tied future boards and now she is a land defender. A wolf in sheep's clothing.

      A NV resident who wants to see accountability

      Dec 10, 2014 at 11:58pm

      I would like to ask Susan Skinner why, if she feels so strongly about the issues affecting the North Vancouver School District, does she fail to attend so many of the Board meetings that she is being paid to represent the community on. And I would like to ask Megan Higgins where she gets her information on the expectant school age population growth to justify opening up schools again, because current and recent trends are indicting growth in North Vancouver that falls below the provincial average and in fact many families are moving out of North Vancouver into more affordable areas.

      Kerry Morris

      Dec 11, 2014 at 11:10am

      In reply to the two comments above. The residents of the City made it clear during this election, no matter if they voted for Morris or Mussatto, that they did not want their public schools sold. Further, with the City pursuing extreme rates of growth (2.6% per annum over the last three years), well above the lover mainland average of 1.0%, were going to need those schools in the near future.

      SD#44 is currently looking at putting trailers in at Queensbury Elementary as the K, 1 and 2 age brackets are fully subscribed at Queensbury, Ridgeway and Queen Mary, and we need more space for these ages right now. While there is some space available for these age groups in the system generally, it is in places like Deep Cove. Are we advocating for our parents to drive their children to Deep Cove from Grand Blvd or Hamilton Heights each day to deliver a K, 1 or 2 grade child? I think not!

      As for the sale of Lonsdale School, I think the school is not in a residential neighbourhood that warrants a school any more, and is in the corridor for high density buildings, as was proposed by the City. It can and should be argued that SD#44 did what the City wanted when it sold Lonsdale.

      The borrowing of 7.2 million for Sutherland and Westview would have been paid back had we not taken the Lonsdale and Queen Mary proceeds and rebuilt the outdoor school in Squamish.

      The one place where I agree with you is that our elected officials should attend all the meeting that their paid to attend, or be docked pay when they do not. We have this same issue at the City council table where our own Craig Keating is frequently not in attendance and has often not done any preliminary review of the materials when he is, given the demands of his other jobs, most notably his role as president of the NDP. If Susan should be removed for her failure to attend, then so should Craig Keating.

      In closing, public assembly lands are impossible to replace, and need to be kept for future generations. If we are so short sited that we sell them, or so irrational that we intend to create an elitist community where young families can't live due to a lack of educational facilities, then we need to rethink our community ideals, because they are not in keeping with an affordable community which we claim is our ultimate goal from all this insane growth.

      Thank you,
      Kerry Morris
      Candidate for Mayor, CNV

      CNV needs park space

      Dec 13, 2014 at 1:51pm

      Funny how the first and second commenters seem to take aim at Susan Skinner personally, when the real issue is - should the City of North Vancouver allow these last large pieces of public lands to fall into developers' hands. Thankfully we have trustees such as Skinner, who have learned from the past, listened to the community and are ready to stand-up for what is right for North Vancouver in 2014.