Citizens for Safe Technology prods Vancouver city council for action on smart meters

Downtown Vancouver–based actressJoely Collins believes Vancouver city council can make a huge statement on the smart meter issue by joining cities like Burnaby, Richmond, and White Rock in putting renewed pressure on the provincial government to enact a moratorium.

“I’m really frustrated by it, because obviously Vancouver is a very powerful municipality, and so by them not moving forward in this…they could potentially have the ability to swing the change on this,” Collins, daughter of English musician Phil Collins, told the Straight by phone. “I just really wish that Vancouver would get onboard and address the real issues.”

Collins said she and her mother, Gulf Islands–based environmentalist Andrea Collins, have been working with Citizens for Safe Technology to try and get all municipalities to call for a moratorium on mandatory installation of the meters.

As of April 4, 39 municipalities had asked for either a moratorium or an opt-out clause over health and privacy concerns, with Vancouver being the notable holdout, according to the CST website.

The pressure is being brought to bear because Energy Minister Rich Coleman ignored a motion, passed at the 2011 Union of B.C. Municipalities annual convention in Vancouver, calling for a moratorium on B.C. Hydro’s installation of the meters, which will see a total of 1.8 million of the devices in homes and businesses by the end of the year.

Speaking by phone, Andrea Collins said she and Joely have contacted Mayor Gregor Robertson and council many times.

“[Coun.] Andrea Reimer was the one I spoke to the most, and she just said, ‘We have other, more important issues to deal with,’ ” Andrea Collins told the Straight. “She didn’t see it as important enough an issue to put it on the agenda.…Until someone actually makes a motion and puts it on the agenda [at council], we can’t speak.”

Coun. Kerry Jang ruled out that possibility.

“No, we will not bring a motion to council, simply because the evidence is mixed,” Jang told the Straight by phone from his office at City Hall. “It’s not clear, and so we want to take it through the UBCM. There is no need for a motion through council, because we have no authority to enforce the moratorium.”

Jang was elected to the UBCM executive following his reelection under the Vision Vancouver banner last November. He said he voted in favour of the 2011 moratorium and expected it to come back this year in slightly revised form. Jang, a UBC professor of psychiatry, was hesitant to offer a personal opinion on smart meters.

“As a scientist, I look at the data,” he said. “So I cannot willingly sign on to something, or endorse a motion in council, when I think that the evidence is not there.”

Jang said he will meet with anyone wanting to discuss the issue, if they put in a formal request at City Hall.

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Peter Ritchie
Yet another example of a "citizens movement" based around egos and ignorance. We let the HST fall because of people like this, lets not let it happen again.
Smart meters are our best chance at reducing our already over-the-limit energy usage as a society, lets make every hour of every day "earth hour", lets get those smart meters into every home in Canada ASAP and lets stop listening to these egotistical loudmouths that want to fight against yet another good innovation.
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Goldorak
@Peter, TOU will be introduced as soon as those meters are installed regulating everyone's lives inside their own homes like any good eco fascist society. If you want earth hour every day, just wait for the next wind storm or move to North Korea.
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Richard Lionels
Hats off to Vancouver city councillors for keeping it scientific and not entertaining the bizarre unproven claims of the "Citizens for Safe Technology" group.

I for one support time of usage costs. It's not about the money. It's about nudging people's behaviour in ways that reduce our carbon footprint and need for new hydro-electric projects. Keep BC beautiful!
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Taxpayers R Us
Typical Vision BS. If it doesn't line their pockets or allow them to ride bikes without helmets, they're not interested.
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Danger Dude
Those against smart meters are the types who are easily fooled into believing everything they read on the internet, including the nuts who think 911 was an inside job. They forget that you have radio waves from cell phone, radio stations, tv stations, satelites and even your cordless phone, yet they worry about the miniscule "waves" from a smart meter? What they should worry about are things that really affect our health and safety, not smart meters.
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walt mcginnis
Mr Yang said “As a scientist, I look at the data,” . “So I cannot willingly sign on to something, or endorse a motion in council, when I think that the evidence is not there. I guess he missed the thousands of studies and reports available to the public that show that smart meter radiation is harmful. Also unless his expertize is in the Biological effects man-made electromagnetic radiation his scientific credentials have no bearing on this issue what so ever. I recommend that Mr. Yangs affiliations be checked out thoroughly to ensure he is not associated with the electrical industry .
Walter Patrick McGinnis
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LR Floyd
Choice - PG&E RF Signal #'s - Human Rights & Democracy - People Being Made Ill

1. Many people choose not to own or use any wireless technologies. Just because something has been invented doesn't mean it's a good thing.

2. Only because a Judge ordered it did PG&E in California finally confess (in November 2011) the real number of RF signals/pulses relayed per day from one smart meter.

PG&E's Big Confession - EMF Safety Network - November 03, 2011 (includes # of RF pulses from SDG&E and SoCalGas report pdf's):
- http://emfsafetynetwork.org/?p=6030

"about 10,000, per meter, per day and the maximum number of 190,000".
And this is before Wi-Fi-enhanced home appliances add their loads to a household.

As well, "PG&E electric meter transmits at 900MHz with 1 watt of transmit power. It has an antennae gain 4.0 dBi for a peak level power of 2.5 watts." which is 2.5X more than their safety data stated.

Then you need to add in the RF loads from wireless gas and wireless water meters.

We are all guinea pigs. And it's not right. This is an enormous and non-consensual experiment on people, animals, insects, and plants. I thought the Nuremberg Trials ended these kinds of experiments.

3. The whole smart meter issue has brought human rights and democracy to the forefront. People have the rights to protect their health, privacy, safety, and security. And in these times of financial duress around the world, no business or government should be forcing people to spend billions of dollars to replace something that still works.

4. People all over the world are being made ill by the installations of wireless smart meters on their homes/businesses and in their neighbourhoods.
- http://www.citizensforsafetechnology.org/Doctors-Information-Package-for...
- http://stopsmartmeters.com.au/2012/03/30/open-letter-to-the-premier/
- http://citizensforsafetechnology.org/Electromagnetic-Hypersensitivity-Fa...
- http://www.kamloopsnews.ca/article/20120224/KAMLOOPS0101/120229824/-1/ka...
- http://emfsafetynetwork.org/?p=6959
- http://www.emfacts.com/2012/01/electromagnetic-intolerance-elucidated/
- http://citizensforsafetechnology.org/Effects-of-Electromagnetic-Radiatio...
- http://smartmeterskill.com/?p=692
- http://chly.ca/b-c-hydro-reverses-smart-meter-with-analog-meter/
- http://www.bclocalnews.com/news/131475878.html
- http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/10/13/refugees-in-their-own-land/
- http://www.commonground.ca/iss/243/cg243_smartmeters.shtml
- http://stopsmartmeters.org/2011/12/02/sensitive-and-inside-big-technolog...
- http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14887428
- http://smartmeterhelp.com/
- http://stopsmartmeters.com.au/2012/03/26/sick-with-palpitations-chest-pa...
- http://stopsmartmeters.com.au/2012/03/27/headaches-severe-head-pressure-...
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LR Floyd
Utility customers around the world are fighting against installation of smart meters, especially wireless, for the same reasons:
- cost
- health
- higher utility bills
- privacy
- safety
- security

Sometimes, their utility commissions listen to the customers and help them. Sometimes they do not. Sometimes their MLA's/MP's/State Senators listen to their constituents and help them. Sometimes they do not. Legal cases are being pursued in many provinces, states, and countries.

It all boils down to democracy: people making their own choices, not being mandated by governments and big business telling them what is "good for them".

Opt-outs are happening here:
- Quebec
- Netherlands
- UK (United Kingdom)
- USA (California, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Maine, Maryland, Michigan, Nevada, Vermont)

And the State of Victoria, Australia is demanding a Moratorium because of smart meter explosions and fires.

But realize that even if someone opts out of a smart meter, they will still be exposed and bombarded by RF (EMR) 24/7, 360 degrees from all smart meters in the vicinity. Wi-Max to be used in rural areas is particularly strong so as to provide coverage over rough topography, through mountains, trees, plants, and buildings.

Governments are allowing utilities to use world citizens as guinea pigs in a huge experiment. Here is an interesting video:

We Are EMR Guinea Pigs by minivanjack - YouTube - April 02, 2012:
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i2uXhKLFys&feature=player_embedded
A global "Smart Grid" program is being implemented which is blasting homes and businesses with more electromagnetic radiation than human beings have ever been subject to in human history. It is utterly preposterous to assume this will not lead to major human epidemics.

We must now face the very serious problem that the institutions, government, corporations and foundations, that are supposed to be serving our interests are deliberately violating, exploiting and endangering us.

This video exposes electromagnetic radiation (EMR) as a major danger and violation to all current and future generations.

Sponsored by FreedomTaker (d'o't'c'o'm)
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Perry Smith
Here are 25 published papers that compile literally 100's of scientific studies that show, clearly, the risks associated with electromagnetic radiation: https://www.yousendit.com/download/M3BsR0lYT2JHa09LRmNUQw

It's well known now that mega-billion dollar cellphone industry has covered up, biased, or generally obfuscated the science. This is very much like the tobacco industry historically, on it's affecting many times more people, in ways ranging from subtle (sleeplessness, palpitations, migraines, foggy thinking, etc) to fatal (cancer-causing). As one out of DOZENS of examples: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YBxyY8FoOs

Smart meters are not even active yet in BC. Employees at BC Hydro have even said (paraphrased), "just wait until the whole grid goes live." A smart meter room has been measured at 190,000 microwatts/m2 here in BC. The test was one immediately after install, before the meters went dormant, in which phase they stay do until a collector hub activates them. This film is the truth about Smart Meters in BC: http://www.thepowerfilm.org

This whole agenda benefits absolutely no one except corporations, and there have been ZERO energy savings in any regions with smart meters. Now we're hearing the whole life-supporting power grid is going to be completely hackable. It's a trojan horse, with governments around teh world all changing laws in order to quietly install their grid without many people really knowing what's going on.
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Will Jackson
A report on the CBC, which interviewed engineers expert on the topic, showed that the smart meters put off significantly less radiation than cell phones and other like devices, wifi routers, laptops, etc. Therefore I assume all the people decrying the use of 'smart meters' don't have any other devices that broadcast these waves in their homes - they would be ignorant hypocrites otherwise.
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Entrenched in Reality
@ L.R. Floyd:
Linda, did you read the actual questions and answers? I'm guessing you didn't. This is the problem with trusting what is displayed on "agenda based" web sites like the emf safety network's - they have spun it. If you read the document they linked to (which they do to give an air of authenticity, but they know you won't actually read it), it says that, at worst, the meters transmit for 875 seconds/day....that is a little over 14 minutes. Or to put it another way, it is 0.009 of the day.

In addition, who are these 'many people' you speak of.....given the the telephone companies are having trouble justifying the handful of pay phones left in the country due to lack of use, I have to assume your use of "many" is a great embellishment....just like the rest of your argument.
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Morty
"I guess he missed the thousands of studies and reports available to the public that show that smart meter radiation is harmful."

You forgot the word "credible", as in "there have been no _credible_ reports of that nature". That's a rather important distinction.

"Also unless his expertize is in the Biological effects man-made electromagnetic radiation his scientific credentials have no bearing on this issue what so ever."

Guess what? I do have expertise in the biological effects of electromagnetic radiation (and whether it's man-made or not is irrelevant—it's all the same). There is no mechanism by which extremely low-power radio waves can have the biological affects attributed to them by those who oppose smart meters (or wi-fi). If there is no mechanism, there can be no causal relationship. We are bathed in electromagnetic radiation of far higher frequency (i.e. energy) than radio waves at far greater intensities than are emitted by smart meters (or wi-fi, or mobile phones) for far greater periods every day. It's called light.
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Entrenched in Reality
I am appalled at how easily swayed many British Columbians are, apparently. Just one look at the "vote"s on this and other boards shows the sheer (previously) unimaginable level of ignorance we have reached in the province, particularly with respect to this issue. EVERY SINGLE post that is based in reality and fact is shot down. This is what happens when you combine questionable intelligence, with Google....
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Slean
As a "scientist like Kerry Jang" I am saddened that someone with no relevant credentials should ignore the many scientists who have studied the effects of microwave radiation and whose work has lead to the World Health Organization's classification of radiation from smart meters, WiFi and other wireless devices as a 2b carcinogen -- just like DDT and lead. By having made up his mind without knowing anything, Mr. Jang and the others on the Vancouver Council are not doing their duties under the Public Health Act which requires that, when informed about a potential health risk, that the Council take action. I think the citizens of Vancouver should demand that the Council follow the law, do their duty.
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Sharon Noble
The report on CBC interviewed engineers hired by the industy. They compared apples with oranges. Cell phones direct their radiation to a small part of the body, it is concentrated. When you consider the total body radiation it is significantly less than smart meters. Dr. Daniel Hirsch tested at various distances and found a single smart meter at 3 feet emits 53 times more radiation to the entire body than does a cell phone. At one foot, which is the distance of the beds of many people and cribs of many babies when the wireless smart meter is on the outside of the bedroom wall, the smart meter emits 480 times more whole body radiation. Quite chilling! Hydro and their cohorts have mislead the public with many "facts". And, Will, for your information many of us have chosen not to use cell phones, WiFis, cordless phones, etc. and I should not be forced to have a wireless smart meter. Hydro is forcing this on people who, for many reasons -- costs, privacy, security, safety, health, democratic choice -- do not want these things. This is still a democracy!!
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As a "scientist": I bet quotes required for you

...the World Health Organization's classification of radiation from smart meters, WiFi and other wireless devices as a 2b carcinogen -- just like DDT and lead.


Um, don't bananas fall into the same category? I think they do - they contain radioactive potassium.

Wikipidea on bananas:
Bananas are naturally slightly radioactive,[9][10] more so than most other fruits, because of their high potassium content, and the small amounts of the isotope potassium-40 found in naturally occurring potassium.


Is anyone afraid of bananas?

Here's the definition of Group 2B carcinogens:

Group 2B: the agent (mixture) is possibly carcinogenic to humans.


So, bananas definitely contain radioactive potassium, but Group 2B (does not include bananas it turns out) possibly is carcinogenic.

Also, if you're concerned about EMF radiation from your so-called smart metre, broadcasting at 1 watt (okay, 2.5 dB gain might be equivalent to 4 watts), then I hope you don't have any 60 watt EMF radiation broadcasters indoors like, say, lightbulbs, nor 9-23 watt CFL radiation broadcasters. Otherwise it would be hypocritical...
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Darcy McGee
I'm going to start a group called Citizens for a Safe Vancouver to protect residents of Vancouver from the tinfoil hat crowd.

Having said that, those two in the photo are cute so if they want to drop me a note...
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Save Vancouver
OK, time for the Straight to put the anti-smart meter crazies back in their cages.
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Argulion
Consider the difference between static cell phone and wireless network signals to the pulsing signals of smart meters in more pedestrian terms;

1) You are hit with a hammer and the weight stays but varies until you are out of range.

2) You are hit with many hammers of various weights continually until you are out of range.

Which would cause the most physical damage in the least amount of time?
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Milgram Smart
The pulsed microwaves emitting from the smart meter are like a flash bulb going off in your face. It won't burn you but it does effect your sight momentarily. Just like what happens to the cell. The body produces a protective protien and it is well known that non ionizing microwave frequencies deplete Melatonin in the body.I don't know anyone that uses a cell phone when they are sleeping. The problem is that these strong pulses are active while you are sleeping. There are many scanned documents produced by NASA, Defense Intelligence Agency, Naval Medical Research Institute and the EPA available at magdahavas.com showing biological effects from the same frequencies used by the SM.
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