More thoughts on Vision Vancouver's reaction to Melissa De Genova's sandwich motion
Late last week, Vision Vancouver commissioner Aaron Jasper called with concerns about my article on the so-called sandwich motion.
Jasper felt that I had given too much space to NPA commissioner Melissa De Genova. She argued that park commissioners and staff shouldn't be stuffing their faces with sandwiches, fruits, and vegetables bought by taxpayers in advance of after-hours briefings with the board.
Jasper also said that I didn't subject her comments to sufficient scrutiny, because she had eaten this food in the past.
I responded that in a longer online-only article, there were three videos featuring Vision commissioners commenting, versus only one video of De Genova's remarks. Jasper himself received nearly three times as much airtime as De Genova.
Vision commissioners have tried to frame this issue as a matter of good employee relations.
This argument would have some merit if it were only the low-ranking employees—and not commissioners and senior managers—who were gobbling free food.
Vision politicians have also tried to portray this as a case of average workers getting their due respect. The reality is that their bosses are undoubtedly present at many if not all of these briefings for the board.
And some of these managers collect generous salaries. The general manager, Malcolm Bromley, earned $216,989 last year, according to the city's annual statement of financial information.
Deputy general manager Peter Kuran was paid $170,027 in 2011. The director of planning, Dana Djurkovic, collected $147,374. The director of recreation, Thomas Soulliere, pocketed $132,089 in 2011. The manager of communications, Joyce Courtney, earned $111,205.
Do taxpayers really need to top this up with free sandwiches, fruits, and vegetables for these plutocrats overseeing Vancouver's parks?
Park-board staff buy these treats at a local supermarket for meetings that take place once a month. Each catered briefing costs approximately $100 for seven commissioners and between four and eight staff, according to the communications department. That doesn't include any staff time spent by a park-board peon who might have to run down to Denman Street to collect the goodies (if this, in fact, occurs).
By my calculation, at least half of the free food is being consumed by politicians. Of those staff who are present at these board briefings, I would bet that at least half if not more of them are earning more than $100,000 per year. And according to De Genova, some of this leftover food has been taken home by an unnamed park commissioner after the meeting.
It's a small amount of money, but this whole affair speaks to the imperial attitude of Vision Vancouver politicians in how they frame issues for the public. Rather than admit that they like eating free sandwiches at the end of the day with the managers, they claim that it's all about respect for the staff.
The reality is that managers make enough money that taxpayers don't have to buy them sandwiches. This is especially so, given that a previous park board passed a motion opposing free catered dinners for commissioners and managers prior to board meetings.
The other reality—which nobody wants to discuss in public—is that the commissioners themselves are underpaid. With their expense allowance, they make about $12,000 a year.
That's $1,000 a month to oversee a budget of more than $100 million a year. To do this job properly requires spending time listening to the public and conducting extensive research.
I say give the commissioners a $4,000-a-year raise and stop the practice of catered briefings for the politicians and senior staff.
And quit trying to justify this as good staff relations if it's really a case of taxpayers buying free sandwiches for a manager who's already receiving $216,918 per year from the public purse. If this is in fact what's happening, Malcolm Bromley should be paying for the food for the commissioners—and not the other way around.
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They don't have enough respect for the public (who unwillingly pays their salaries) to so much as gather meaningful input on things like community-altering real estate development, and it's clear they have no respect for being accountable to any of us either.
This is neither an issue of bad communication/employee relations for their staff, this is what we've seen from Vision time and time again - arrogance and disrespect towards anyone who dare challenge their views.
The Parks Board is an anachronism at best. The Board was a tool for the wealthy to ensure their streets had trees and their neighbourhoods were well furbished with parks. Get rid of it.
Why is Aaron Jasper such an ass? Truly, certain of these Vision Park Board commmissioners and their counterparts at City Hall are not statespersons, but assasins.
I've never seen nor heard of such disrespect for others POV--and we're talking regular citizens here, not only political opponents who dare to question them-- as from these arrogant tools.
They epitomize the word "BULLY!"
And can't disagree more with you, @p lg
As Jimmy Stewart might have put it, "We need this crummy, two-bit Park Board, if only because we need a mechanism to stand up to the Masters at City Hall!" Not that Vision commissioners would know how to do that. They only know how to "rollover", alas.
By the way, Vision commissioners have allowed the Park Board budget to be clawed back since they first arrived, in 2008. No Mt. Pleasant Pool as they promised, no money to community centres, no upkeep of city parkland and boulevards. All that long grass, dandelions, and ragweed make a delightful hiding place for this City's slobbish citizenry to toss water bottles, condoms and god-knows-what-else.
But boy, those bike lanes and places like Sun Yet-Sen garden (where a certain Park Board Commish works) sure get loadsadough of support from City Hall, don't they?
1) At the Board meeting, I pointed out that our staff have been exploring options to allow the Board to do briefings remotely. This would save Commissioners the time, expense and stress of of racing from work to get to the Park Board office. It would also save on staff time. This was an exercise that all Commissioners were were aware of, including Commissioner DeGenova.
2) Instead of waiting for staff to come back to us with their ideas, Commissioner DeGenova chose to bring her motion forward in an attempt to portray herself as the only Commissioner concerned about Park Board expenses.
3) Prior to regular Board meetings, which start at 7pm, our staff do go out on their own time and their own dime for dinner. Our briefing however, always start immediate after work (5:30pm). While members of the senior management team do attend the briefings, we do have other staff (sometimes from other city departments) attend to give the presentations on the specific issues. A good many of them are not exempt staff and as per the collective agreement, do have rights pertaining to hours worked, breaks and overtime. Allowing them time to get dinner while "on the clock" is time they are not doing Park Board business and ultimately an expense to Vancouver taxpayers.
The other point I conveyed to you Charlie is that the Vision caucus had hoped that you would've had a more balanced approach to covering Park Board issue. As the governing party, we fully expect our policies and decisions to be scrutinized by the opposition and the media. However, we have noticed a consistent pattern at the Georgia Straight of no critique of the positions taken by our NPA colleagues. Why not ask Commissioner DeGenova or Coupar if they had every partaken of the baloney sandwiches? Or, why bring forward this motion when staff were already working on identifying cost saving measures?
Further to that, your "I gave Vision more quotes" rebuttal to me doesn't really hold up. For example, you stated that Commissioner Loke felt that bringing the motion forward was embarrassing without quoting his reasoning. That could easily lead your readers to believe that Commissioner Loke was embarrassed about eating the sandwiches. When in fact, he actually felt this type of cheap politics had no business at the Board.
I could go on, but I have to go back to work. I look forward to seeing you at our next Board meeting Charlie.
Aaron Jasper, Vice-Chair
Vancouver Park Board
Do you not know how utterly whiny and weasel-ish you sound? Boy, you sure know how to trash the reputations of everyone on your board, as well as the media.
BTW, Hillary Clinton notes that bully-pulpiting should be a strategic tactic, not a default: http://bit.ly/LZYHvN #cdnfp
I NEVER THOUGHT I'D SEE THE DAY THAT VISION COULD BE MORE VISCIOUS THAN THE FED CONSERVATIVES! And it's worse, because you feign such commaraderie with all "the little people'.
Soon, Park Board's newest motto will be: "Let Us Eat Cake!"
Of everyone at the sandwich meetings, you're the one full of "baloney!"
But if this is the kind of leadership coming from the former Chair of the Board, I would say that Commissioner Jasper is already vastly overpaid for his services.
If nothing else, it just looks terrible. It's absurd. When does any austerity come their way? When are they ever made to feel the pinch? When are any of these corporate stooges going to take a pay cut beyond sandwiches?
It's like a fat man telling you that you need to go on a diet.
Where were you when the Charlie Smith broke Sandwichgate?
Hayohhhh!
You should check out federal politics some time. The current regime is off the scale when it comes to disrespecting opponents, among other things. Try to keep up.
This is Just Beyond...:
YOU HAVEN'T, NOT EVEN CLOSE. YOU TOO NEED TO PAY MORE ATTENTION AND TRY TO KEEP UP TO DATE.
As for the issue at hand, I didn't find Jasper's rebuttal "whiny", and he may have had some good points, though it may have been counter productive to post them here. I really don't know. I do know the two I replied to were wrong.
Hell, maybe we *should* get rid of the Parks Board, I. Don't. Know.
Oh, I'm keeeping up just fine. What you don't want to admit is that the current Vision bunch is mean spirited and out to decimate whatever opposition they find, wherever they find it. The Conservatives haven't cornered the market on assholery.
As for Jasper's reply to Charlie, son, it's spin, and he is trying to justify the unjustifiable.
Now close down your computer, 'cause it's obviously past your bed-time.
I think I've given myself indigestion...
I can agree with you there. But you're obviously ill informed calling VV "worst" vs CPC or Toronto's mayor for 2 easy examples.
You're trying to patronize an old grey-beard, proving ass-holery is alive in Vancouver, just not where you thought.
I'm not (yet) convinced.
Yer mommie says, "Make your own pizza pops today (90 second on high)." She's busy tonight.