Vancouver group launches petition calling for car-free Robson Street block

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A local organization is hoping to gather public support for expanding downtown Vancouver’s Robson Square.

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Should the block of Robson Street by the Vancouver Art Gallery be made pedestrian-only?

Yes 75%
241 votes
No 17%
54 votes
Maybe 8%
26 votes

The Vancouver Public Space Network began collecting signatures last Sunday (August 14) on a petition calling for the 800 block of Robson Street to remain closed to traffic.

The block between Howe and Hornby streets has been closed for over a year and a half during the Olympics, provincial renovations to the square, and the city's summertime VIVA Vancouver program. However, the block is scheduled to re-open to bus and car traffic following the Labour Day weekend.

Andrew Pask, the director of the Vancouver Public Space Network, said the organization has collected what he estimates are hundreds of signatures on a petition to keep the block pedestrian-only.

“We’re hopeful that we can still keep the issue alive and remind the city that this is a fantastic public space,” said Pask in a phone interview.

He described the area as the “ground zero” for civic gatherings, and noted the block has a history of being the major meeting point for a range of activities and events.

“The sort of gathering and celebration activities that took place during the Olympics, I guess that was sort of the hallmark of the space as use in that regard,” he said.

“If you’re going to have a protest, typically you’ll gather in that space,” he added. “If you’re going to sit there and have an impromptu performance…the space works really well for that.”

Non-Partisan Association councillor Suzanne Anton introduced a motion late last year calling for city staff to consult with interested parties to consider the feasibility of creating a major public square, with a permanent closure of the 800 block of Robson Street.

City council approved a revised motion that directed staff to look into the creation of a major public square at 800 Robson Street as part of a broader “Downtown Public Spaces Plan”.

Anton envisions the square emulating public spaces in major European cities.

“I can see just see it filled with chairs and people and cafés and I just have this real image of how it could be one of Vancouver’s really spectacular public spaces,” she told the Straight by phone.

Anton said she would like to see consultation on the idea of an expanded square, given that the street is part of TransLink’s number five bus route along Robson Street.

“It has a very inconvenient detour right now,” she noted, adding that “if that could be improved, I think it takes away that annoyance, because it is annoying to the users of that bus.”

Coalition of Progressive Electors councillor Ellen Woodsworth also supports the idea of an expanded public square in the area.

“I love the local public plazas, the animation of public spaces that happens in South America or in Europe or in many other places in the world, and I think the Vancouver Public Space Network has done a good job in drawing this to our attention, and I think that we need to proceed and make sure that it happens as soon as possible,” she told the Straight by phone.

But Vision Vancouver councillor Heather Deal said while she supports the idea of an expanded Robson Square, it won’t be an option for the city for this fall.

She said the city will look at the potential closure of the 800 block of Robson as part of a broader transportation plan, and that a full public consultation process will be launched on the issue with stakeholders including TransLink.

"We’re very clear that we think it’s a great idea, but it’s not just something we can do without wrapping it in the larger context," she told the Straight by phone.

“At this point the city has agreed to open it back up for traffic after the VIVA Vancouver event,” she added.

“Council has passed a motion expressing our interest in exploring the opportunity to close it in the long-term…but it can’t happen at this point in time. We haven’t gone through the process yet.”

TransLink spokesman Drew Snider confirmed that end-to-end transit service on Robson Street will be restored after the Picnurbia project in Robson Square closes on September 5.

“The thing to remember here is that putting the number five…back on that end-to-end route on Robson provides better transit connections for people in the West End to get to events downtown, to get to north/south bus routes, all three of the sky train lines as well - rather than the circuitous route that it has been taking so far, which was going along Seymour and then Pender and up Burrard,” he said.

Pask acknowledged that while there are “issues that need to be resolved” regarding the closure of the block, he said the idea enjoys a high level of support in the community.

“The actual support for it I think is at such a level that it more than justifies the creation of an expanded square,” he said.

The group plans to continue collecting signatures on the petition on their website and at future events.

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tim.
ugh. it's always translink that has its head stuck in the sand. i support this idea.
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LB
I live in the West End and rely on transit and I say bugger the #5 bus route! We need a proper public square! If I have to choose between those two options, I'll take a proper public square please!
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pd
Just sign it here: http://tinyurl.com/3bhjtex translinks argument is lame, they run busses on all major streets in downtown, sooner or later they have to give up one of them. They might be a stakeholder but 10000 pedestrians a day are a bit of a stakeholder too.
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Rhea2
Great idea. Lets do it!
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Pedestrians first.
This is actually a good idea. Traffic has gotten used to the block being closed for almost 2 years now and it's hasn't caused chaos (unlike the much hated bike lanes disaster). Vancouver doesn't really have a "public square area" like a lot of cities. Not that it would have completely prevented it, but had a large public square been the "gathering point" for the Stanley Cup public viewings, perhaps the violence wouldn't have gotten so out of hand since the crowds were just grouped together in impromtu closed streets so when trouble started, there was no easy outlets to dissapate the crowds.
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GOT
A good idea. Two things: by 'pedestrian only' we mean no bicycles (and that will be enforced?), and #2: can we stop trying to be European all the time? If it's a good idea for Vancouver, it's a good idea for Vancouver. We don't have to justify it because we 'envision emulating public spaces in major European cities'. The sooner Vancouver can quit trying to be like somewhere else, the sooner this city might start to have its own personality.
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Paul T
Yes to the public square idea. But not year round. September to June, only closed on weekends. July and August, closed 24/7.

In fact, it should be extended to join up with Burrard and Granville Street.
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LF
Please provide a link to the petition if you are going to write about it.
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Martin Dunphy
LF:

Third comment from the top.
Have a nice day.
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Supporter of a Closed Robson Sq
Andrew Pask needs to learn how to sell an idea. Mentioning that it is the 'ground zero' for civic gatherings may not be the best approach. Instead he should focus on the fact that the square is between two shopping districts and, when closed, acts as a pedestrian friendly thoroughfare between Granville and Robson. The Robson Street BIA needs to hear arguments for how keeping this square closed benefits local businesses. Right now they think that 800 Robson street needs to be open to traffic for their businesses to flourish. I think it is obvious, with the recent success of the Picnurbia installation, that providing places for people to sit and people watch in the square will attract more people to our downtown, therefore benefitting businesses. I've watched many tired tourists and shoppers rest on Picnurbia.
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Sheep
Yeah Fuck the Mega Corporate Chains & Pussy City Hall.

Make Downtown Core All Pedestrian with FREE BUS/Street Car Service.
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Taxpayers R Us
I'll support it if it's bike-free as well - and enforced.
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Marvin B
I actually like the #5 bus route in its current form. It services Burrard Station and Waterfront Canada Line station. You can get to Granville Street via Pender Street. Much better than when the bus used to crawl down Robson Street to Granville/Seymour.
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Andrew
@ Supporter - Thanks for the feedback. The VPSN has been working at the Robson issue for a while and is always looking to do a better job to sell the issue.

The wording of the petition tries to account for the points you raise, as have our letters to Council. But you raise a good point - and we could certainly do a better job to profile the economic impacts of this sort of activity.

As for the language of 'ground zero'... another comment (elsewhere) mentioned that they didn't like the language because it reminded them of 9/11. Certainly not our intention to make this connection, but rather to comment on the fact that the 800-block is the heart of the city and functions as the locus for a wide range of activities - celebrations, protests, performance... and, yes, helping people to walk from one shopping district to another.
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Yet Another Taxpayer
Vancouver needs a central gathering and public meeting place. Robson Square has been the place for decades despite the addition of vehicles, redesigns and construction. The design for Robson Square NEVER intended for vehicular traffic to cut through it and was to be pedestrian ONLY. It was not 'til the early '80s, a few years after the Arthur Erickson/ Cornelia Oberlander designed square was open were vehicles allowed.
Give us a grand gathering space for Vancouver!
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Donald
Transit and bicycles only, done.
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Spacer
Remember how the city adapted to the closed-off viaducts during the Olympics? The same thing happened at Robson Square, we found another way. We could easily do without the viaducts and the traffic in Robson Square. In fact the whole construction project cut down the "cruising" traffic on Robson which used to slow the #5 bus to a crawl on the weekends.
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