Vancouver's Central Presbyterian Church looks at condo development

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Building condos on top of a church isn’t heresy for Rev. Jim Smith.

According to the Presbyterian minister, his Vancouver congregation is pioneering this development concept, which he says could serve as a model for other urban-based churches.

“It’s a new way of being able to provide for the church to expand what we do,” Smith told the Georgia Straight in a phone interview. “This is being financed by the church with its property and the sale of the condos. And I think that they can coexist.”

Smith is the minister of the Central Presbyterian Church. The flock wants to redevelop its West End property on Thurlow Street into a 21-storey tower.

Based on an initial plan, the top 14 floors will be devoted to condos. The four storeys below are going to contain subsidized rentals geared mostly to seniors. The bottom three floors will house a new church and community spaces.

“We’re about community, and the West End is about community, isn’t it?” Smith said. “Rather than have some kind of a ghettoization where you have a building that is only exclusive, we anticipate and look forward to an interaction between all of the people that are in the building.”

Built in 1975, the current church is in use from 6 a.m. to 10 p.m., seven days a week, according to the minister. Two other congregations share the facility. Various community groups also use the church, from a Montessori school to an Alcoholics Anonymous group.

“We just have no more time or space to make available to groups in the community,” Smith said.

The congregation intends to submit a letter of inquiry to city hall in early September as the next step in its redevelopment plan.

“We’ve been here for a hundred years,” Smith said. “We plan to be here for another hundred years, rather than sell the property, take the money, and run away. We want to stay.”

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Peter the Grape
Good luck Rev. Smith. Much-needed affordable rentals for seniors, a community centre, daycare, space for counselling services, arts and community groups - all without using public money.
Great. I'll pray for you. Really hope it works!
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Herb Hilder
This is indeed exciting news Jim and all of you at Central. St. Andrew\s King Street in Toronto did a similiar project--only they built condos next door to the church and used a couple of the floors of the building for meeting spaces and offices for the church. It's a great use of space and the additional plan of having seniors as part of the development is indeed heartening. Prayers as you move through the process
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W. End
It's interesting to see that Central Presbyterian is taking a stewardship role to this property. A stark contrast to the United Church's "dump and run" approach at 1401 Comox Street. An arrangement which has resulted in Vision Vancouver's approval of a sweet rezoning deal for Westbank Projects to create one of the highest density developments in the West End, while the United Church cashes a big cheque after not paying property taxes since 1906.
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Interested
W.End. Note that the Presbyterian "stewardship" is not a done deal. If the City does not approve this plan, they may have no choice other than to follow the United Church's approach. It sounds like you think the United church did something wrong, I'm not so sure. Do you really know the whole story? This said, I agree the Presbyterian plan is admirable and I join you in the hope they are successful.
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