Vancouver's Guardian Angels say they aren't vigilantes

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There are a lot of familiar faces along the patrol route for Vancouver Guardian Angels members Vespa Lussier and Timex Loven.

On a Monday evening in the Downtown Eastside, the pair stop to talk with community members as they walk along East Hastings Street.

Several residents wave and greet the duo as they go by, seemingly familiar with the volunteers and their trademark red berets.

While the reactions from passersby appear to be mainly positive, curious, or indifferent, the group’s presence in the neighbourhood does produce a negative reaction from one resident.

A woman in a wheelchair exits a building and begins to shout at the duo as they pass by, telling them they shouldn’t be here, but on Granville Street instead. Lussier finishes the woman’s sentence and says she’s heard the comment many times from the same person.

The pair then walk down an alleyway, greeting people leaning or crouched against buildings.

At the end of the alley, a woman greets them with a smile and gives both Lussier and Loven a hug.

“Hey angels, thanks for being here,” she says.

Lussier, the chapter commander for the Vancouver Guardian Angels, is aware of the mixed reactions the volunteers receive in the city. But as the group increases efforts to expand its membership, she’s hoping to convey the kind of day-to-day work the group’s volunteers do in the community.

While the group was founded in New York and has chapters across North America, Lussier explains that the approach of the Vancouver chapter is unique to most cities.

Lussier and Loven note that a common criticism among the public is that the group is comprised of vigilantes. But they stress that here in Vancouver, that’s not what the group is about.

“Vigilante really means that people that go out there, they’re going to solve crime without anybody’s permission for anything, well Jim Chu, the chief of police, does know that we’re out here and has given us his blessings of us being on the streets,” she said in an interview with the Straight at a coffee shop in the Downtown Eastside.

She also notes there have been no reported incidents of Guardian Angels in Vancouver acting aggressively. In fact, she stresses that the local chapter’s approach is focused on community relations.

“Everything I do is community-minded and very community-based, so I’m hoping that my perception of how community is all about, about inclusion and all that sort of thing, is influence to the new angels that come in,” she explained.

“And then the old angels will pick up that same philosophy that this is community-based, it’s about inclusion, it’s not about judgment, it’s not about violence, it’s not about any of that stuff. It’s about if we want a community to become better, to improve, to flourish, we have to all do our part in it.”

Lussier also notes that while the group does regular patrols through the alleyways off East Hastings Street, they don’t intercept any drug use or deals.

“We know that they’re there, they know that we’re there, but we’re not there to bust up their business,” she said.

“If they see us standing on their street corner, it probably deters some people from possibly making some business, so they just walk somewhere else. They know that it’s not our job to go there and be the police – we’re not the police. But we are there to ensure that people in the community are safe.”

The group currently has 10 active members and 40 members at large. Lussier is hoping to double the group’s active membership. A recent recruitment drive attracted interest from about 20 people, and three have come out to join volunteers on their community patrol, she said.

The Guardian Angels will be holding their next recruitment drive on July 16 in Vancouver.

New Guardian Angels members receive three to four months of training, which includes law, first aid, martial arts and self-defense.

Lussier, who is a psychiatric nurse, said while Guardian Angels do sometimes split up fights, she said the group has a “non-violent crisis intervention” approach.

She prefers to resolve conflicts verbally, rather than approaches that have been used by chapters in some other cities, such as citizen’s arrests. While she said that legally “everybody’s allowed to do that,” she notes she hasn’t done a citizen’s arrest since 1986.

A Vancouver chapter of the Guardian Angels was formed in the early 1980s. The group began to wind down in the early 90s when participation dropped off, and the chapter was started up again in 2006.

In addition to increasing their membership in Vancouver, Lussier also hopes to eventually expand the group’s work to Surrey, if they can get the sign-off from police there.

“There are other areas we would like to go to,” she said. “I think we’ve got to start somewhere to make the awareness spread.”

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Sharon Weed
Guardian Angels, Hells Angels or Crown Angels. I choose the Guardian Angels.
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I Camp
I watch the "GA's" pass by my window @ main & Hastings. I see them as often as I see the police on foot patrol down here. RARELY. They need to be out in larger groups. In a group of two, they are just a lightning rods for antagonism. Do they really have the support of the police? When was that given? Was there a public announcement?
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Birdy
"well Jim Chu, the chief of police, does know that we’re out here and has given us his blessings of us being on the streets"

Since when do you need anyone's blessing to put on a goofy hat and wander about aimlessly while reminiscing about low budget Charles Bronson movies from the 80's?
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Skeptic
If these wannabe "Officers" want to contribute to "Community" instead of walking around the East side they should Volunteer or Fund Raise to help the needy.
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Obviouso
Of course Jim Chu gives his blessings. He won't assign beat cops to problem areas of Vancouver. They all ride around in their patrol cars, constantly checking their laptop, not paying attention to the world around them.

So this is Jimmy's way of saving coin and getting a bonus.
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Stephen Blumstein
State social control responsibilites have been sold out to privatization interests like security guard companies (B.I.A.) and anyone else who wishes the poor to control the poor, as at Carnegie Centre. It is all part of a continuing B.C. Liberal Friedmanomics free trade "new world order" agenda designed to justify and maintain impending gentrification interests on the D.T.E.S. Control the rich, not the poor.
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Kathleen Foster
I would like to see a follow up interview from the lady in the wheel chair. I think it is important to hear what she has to say and why she said it. What would be the harm in finding out why she said that to them as they passed by down the street? Just curious and if you want to be involved in community support and inclusion, then stop and talk to her and listen to her concerns.
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Second Nation
To any Guardian Angels reading this: thank you.

It's easy for us here to type the ideas that pop into our heads (often negative). It takes a lot more effort to walk out the door and try to make a place better.
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Vespa
@ Kathleen Foster , thank you for your suggestion .. I actually do take that approach all the time .. I place value on people's opinions and thus have asked this woman several times, why she does not want us in the community .. but it's quite difficult to address someone's concerns when there is an aggressive loudness coming from their lips....the last time I saw her about a week ago , I said hello and she said a very faint Hi . although this still does not addrss her concens , when she is ready to discuss the issue I am respectively all ears ...
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Vespa
@ Skeptic ...". they should Volunteer or Fund Raise to help the needy.
Agree Disagree. "

We do Volunteer .... we Volunteer our time and skills and compassion for the community much like the other groups in the DTES ... You are more than welcome to come and join us for a walk along ... being proactive in the community makes for a safer community : D, you can contact me at van.guardianangels@gmail.com .
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Vespa
@ Second Nation....

Your support is much appreciated along with your kindness in words ... regardless what other negativity another feels they must express .. I feel a sense of pride that I am willing to go out there and face the negative energy .. but I also feel positive light from those who smile and shake my hand and say "thank you for just taking the time to talk " .. every soul out there needs to be reminded they too are human beings .. and should be given the repect, that of any living soul should ...positive/negative we are all of community.
Miigwetch, Vespa
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Vespa
@ Second Nation

Miigwetch for your support ....if we were all proactive in our communities ..imagine how much better our neighborhoods would be?

... I've hear of stories of my elders from "back home" (Manitoba).. where everyone looked after each other in the neighborhoods ... would be wonderful to have back those days now...
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SetonVancouver
Guardian Angels get warm reception in Vancouver

The red berets are getting the red carpet treatment in Vancouver.

By The Vancouver Province July 30, 2006
The Guardian Angels have a "green light" to patrol Vancouver, the group's founder says.

Curtis Sliwa toured Granville Mall yesterday afternoon, a day after his meeting with Insp. John MacKay.

Sliwa described the meeting as "absolutely outstanding" and "absolutely unexpected."

"The best I could have expected was a wait-and-see attitude, a yellow light and maybe even a red light. But no -- a green light," Sliwa said.

"[MacKay] said, 'As long as you don't break any laws we'll work with you all the way.'

"In Canada, no police reception has come close to that."

Vancouver police have previously said they are willing to work with groups who want to report crime as long as the groups work within the law.

Sliwa hopes to start training recruits by late August. But, in fact, the group is already working.

Sliwa broke up a fight Friday night while touring the Downtown Eastside with a handful of members from the Portland, Ore., chapter.

"There has to be violence reduction. So even if the Guardian Angels aren't doing here what they do in other cities -- making arrests, destroying drugs, destroying paraphernalia -- we would be doing a great service to the city," Sliwa said.

During yesterday's tour, Sliwa was approached by Anna Laudisio, who owns the Brandiz Hotel rooming house at 122 East Hastings St.

"We think we're located properly to offer the Guardian Angels maybe a head office or they can maybe have their group congregate here," Laudisio said.

"We need more eyes on the street watching the people that need to be watched. These dealers are predators. They don't care who they hurt."

Vancouver Coun. David Cadman said yesterday he would rather see the city expand its community policing programs than welcome a Guardian Angels chapter.

Community police volunteers "are our eyes on the street for all sorts of issues, but they don't pretend to intervene by wearing a uniform or conducting themselves with a certain style or swagger," he said.

"We don't want to encourage citizens to be enactors of justice. We want to do that through the systems we have in place."
Guardian Angels volunteers go through a three-month training program that includes physical conditioning and instruction in self-defence, first aid and CPR.
Sliwa said recruits will be put through background checks before being allowed to join.
The group is in the process of establishing chapters in Edmonton, Calgary and Toronto. Sliwa founded the Guardian Angels in 1979 when he was a McDonald's night manager in the Bronx, New York.

© (c) CanWest MediaWorks Publications Inc.
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Katherine N
Everyone here b*tching about what the police or GA should / shouldn't do...What are YOU doing? Nothing. That's all.
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Graeme
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