There actually is hope

Sometimes a guy at a bus stop figures out that I want to talk to him, so he'll sit himself near enough to me on the bus. And eventually I figure out something intelligent to say and we'll chat for a bit. Note that this approach has NEVER resulted in a date, and I get depressed when I wonder if he's indulging me just because he can, or because he feels sorry for me because I'm dorky, vulnerable, and overeager. But at least this is better than nothing, right?

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Anonymous

Dec 12, 2017 at 9:51pm

Practice makes perfect. Don't worry too much about it. The one with balls will ask you out.

Well, so cute

Dec 12, 2017 at 9:52pm

And maybe 5 years ago a man may have asked you out on a date, like, an old fashioned, sentimental kinda way. But now most men are afraid to talk to women, look at them at all even. I'm surprised this is not a comment about how creepy he was because just wanted to connect with a human, all intention free and all. And the real kicker is, its mens fault, its my fault, because, I am, a man.

Untold women..

Dec 12, 2017 at 9:57pm

Have given indications to guys they want to talk...and the vast majority of those women (when approached by the guy) then proceeded to shoot him down and embarrass him in public. Then,women wonder why guys -after being shot down hundreds of times- very rarely approach them,as witnessed by the countless "confessions" on here by women bemoaning the supposed lack of men in Vancity.
It's 2017,you're all strong independent women..how about you risk public rejection and talk to guys ?

Right!

Dec 12, 2017 at 11:44pm

And one day, who know... :)

Good luck!

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@There actually is hope

Dec 14, 2017 at 4:14pm

I can't say what the reasons are ... Have you tried asking them out? Nothing formal, just casually ask if they would like to go for a coffee to continue your conversation. Or if you talk about some interests/hobbies you have in common, maybe just mention that you've been looking for someone to share that activity with... if they're interested, they'd take the hint.

It's good to be enthusiastic without sounding desperate. The best way to do this is if you just talk to people to enjoy the conversation without ulterior motives. Once in a while, you might feel a connection with someone, and something happens but more often than not, you or they will realize that it's not what you're looking for. It's best to have low expectations, and even if you have a date, it may not turn into anything.

I want to say that you are very brave to take the initiative. Most people are too afraid of rejection to take a risk. May I suggest that you also try to meet people at meetups or take classes or hobbies. Maybe these men aren't confident enough to ask you out after talking to you for 5 mins during a bus ride, but they might if they see you regularly at some event/activity you share. You have more time to get to know each other, and there's less pressure.

Good luck!

OP

Dec 15, 2017 at 8:23am

I forgot to mention that these men tend to be conventionally attractive and well put together. That's why I can't help but look even as I try to hide it. I think that's why they can sense that I want to talk to them; they're probably used to women throwing themselves at them all the time. And they tend to not be single. Or they're gay. I've learned to read the signs. If they don't ask me for my name, they can't or don't want to date me. If they shake my hand and wish me a good day, that's their way of cutting off the conversation. If they keep saying that they know a few words in my parents' language, that's their way of letting me know they have a girlfriend of the same ethnicity as mine when they don't have the heart to tell me outright. It's not all bad though because I still relish the chance to practice approaching guys in public.

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