Ghost or no ghost?

I confess that I’m confused about what exactly ghosting is. Some people think that if the person they were seeing doesn’t break up face to face then they’ve been ghosted. Others think it’s if they break up and refuse to talk about it. Still others think it’s when the person just doesn’t continue to communicate in any way. I think it’s the last. I think that if someone just stops talking completely as if you disappeared, that’s the description of ghosting. If they tell you why they feel that they need to end it and then they stop talking to you, that’s just a breakup. Regardless of whether they did it in person , on a text, or during a phone call.

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Jul 16, 2018 at 1:40am

Agreed. Ghosting doesn't neccesarily have to mean broken relationships. It basically means being reclusive and withdrawing from society. When you ghost, you basically cut contact with everything and everybody. No family, no friends and yet no enemies. Take Richard Simmons for example. He stopped showing up to teach his fitness classes at his fitness studio nearly five years ago. People got worried and tried to reach him via email or phone. Not once did he return any of their phone calls or emails. Richard Simmons ghosted the world and now lives like a hermit. I highly doubt he'll ever return to the spotlight in his lifetime.

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Jul 16, 2018 at 2:22am

You boundary jumping narcissistic douchebag

It's not responding to a voice mail, text message or email.

Jul 16, 2018 at 3:56am

Ever. And never contacting the person (friend/acquaintance/lover) who left it, ever again, leaving them confused and twisting in the wind.

It's what shitty people who haven't developed adult communication skills do when they want to break a connection to someone.

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Drama Tides

Jul 16, 2018 at 4:48am

I'm not sure, but there does need to be a term for the feelings that exist with many unanswered questions about a relationship. How did they really feel about me? Why were they so f*cked up? Who are they really? How did I misjudge so badly? What does it say about me? Why was she wearing an old bridal dress, and wtf was that nasty gel-like liquid in her hair? Did she literally just bl*w someone before meeting with me? Am I trying to date Marla Singer? Is my life Fight Club? Am I Tyler Durden?

Anonymous

Jul 16, 2018 at 9:30am

not getting a face - to face breakup sucks but that's not ghosting.

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I think it's all the same sludge

Jul 16, 2018 at 6:36pm

Miscommunication, assumptions, expectations of someone, idealizing, hoping they know how to treat you by default (because it's hard to have the autonomy of saying how you want to be treated), hoping the other knows what's good for you, what's bad for you, and so forth. In the age of mass media, lightning fast communication, It's no surprise we're all more hurt by these kinds of errors in communication. Live on, don't make trophies out of your pain. If you can fix communication with someone, do it, and if you're not strong enough, let them go, maybe you'll understand each other better when you're in different parts of your lives. Just waiting for things to get better, nursing your ghostly wounds may feel good right now, but honestly, it's kinda like self-flaggelation. Waiting around is a hell of it's own you shouldn't wish on anyone, especially not yourself. <3

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@ I think it's all the same sludge

Jul 16, 2018 at 6:54pm

You say that it's hard to say how you want to be treated - ?
Really? Why is that hard for you?
It's just basic assertiveness. Maybe that's where the problem is.

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Prize Goes To "It's Not..."

Jul 16, 2018 at 7:09pm

Yes they have the correct definition.
When someone just goes dark, AWOL, MIA, whatever.

I've been struggling with this phenomenon in various aspects of relationships with strangers over the past 5 years or so. Certainly a common (sorry, trigger warning) millennial thing common in people under 35 but older people do it that should know better.

It stings and its confusing and I've wondered myself why someone would treat another person like that. (of course the ones that did it never said why, thats part of the problem). AFter asking around and reading this board. he consensus is that the person really wants to avoid blowback or drama so they figure that not communicating/talking at all with keep them clear of any more emotional upset. (that, or they dont give a fuck and treating you as something disposable)

I know the time that I did it to someone close, I had given them ample warning that I "didnt want to talk about it". They persisted and persisted in trying to call me out on something that I knew the answer would be hurtful to them if I told the truth so I just ignored them. Once bitten twice shy. Still think about it though.

@Prize

Jul 17, 2018 at 12:52am

That's a sweet description. I know the times I've done it, and I know it may sound counterproductive, but I didn't wish the person more drama in their lives, so I ghosted. Like I just thought they didn't need more shit at the moment. And having gotten the ghosting, yeah It's pretty bad in any form. But I'm basically awful at being shady and not talking though, so my brand of toxicity tends to be an awfully potent mix of doing something shitty while apologizing for it, pointing out my own bullshit, and basically begging endlessly for tangible communication. I think I just really need more self-control.

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