Screwing over employers feels good

I used to treat employers with respect and go out of my way to be thoughtful towards them and not let them down. But ever since Covid hit and I got laid off I have been through so many jobs and now I treat them with the respect and commitment they deserve for whatever pittance they feel like throwing my way. Pay me little and if a better job comes along I don't care how much money you claim to have spent training me but I am out that door quicker than a rat deserts a sinking ship and no you don't deserve to have notice. I'm not getting fooled again. Good employees are thin on the ground right now and it is time to get paid what we deserve!

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My sibling’s colleague was with a company for 20 years

Sep 1, 2021 at 9:51pm

… and they got laid off with 8 weeks of severance offered. Think about that. They went in physically to the office 5 days/week dutifully for a fraction of their adult life, and all they were offered was 8 weeks. OP, I’m glad you’re taking a stance. Yes, why bother giving notice; it only serves the employers interest, not yours. Hope you get the highest wage you can.

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Umm. Okay.

Sep 2, 2021 at 5:54am

Or you could just work a job you like and treat people with respect. It is literally your choice. Unless of course someone forced you to submit a resume and go for an interview and the such. If you applied to a thankless company that is on you. Downvote away.

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Agreed

Sep 2, 2021 at 7:23am

I used to believe in company loyalty, but I no longer do. Especially here in Vancouver where the average wages / salaries are abysmally low in comparison to most other larger cities. If employers expect to keep good employees they’d better start understanding that paying them top dollars is what it’s going to take. People need to be able to find a decent place to live and enjoy a reasonably comfortable life, and with the outrageous cost of everything here, Vancouver employers better step up if they intend to compete.

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Yeah

Sep 2, 2021 at 10:15am

I seethis at my job, my boss has been desperate to hire before covid, it's much worse now. Most of the time, people don't even bother showing up for the interview. When I started over a decade ago, they offered a pretty good salary at the time, regular salary increases and incentives to stay with the company. Over time that's been whittled away, now they only offer minimum wage to start, no promise of a raise in the future and they took away the medical, dental for part time staff, and they only hire part time staff now. I quietly suggested to my boss maybe paying a bit more might encourage people to apply, it usually ends up with him going into a rage about how the government raised minimum wage and how the company can't afford staff. (I know for a fact they can, they just aren't turning as big a profit as they use to) My salary is okay because I've been with them a long time and am in a higher position, but it's becoming less okay with time and it's time to consider other employment options. I hear ya, if you have better options, take them. I think there is a new reality employers are going to deal with.

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@agreed

Sep 2, 2021 at 3:31pm

It’s already too late. We’ll need a natural disaster to sort us out again. It’s unfortunate humans only truly come together in extremely trying times.

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L. Ongface

Sep 2, 2021 at 3:36pm

Snubbing a psychiatrist after about 10 years of sedated confusion feels even better. I can’t see clearly now! It seems like he’s mad I’m off the meds. The thought of him depressed and blue brings me intense pleasure. What goes up…

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What I've seen when the return is low.

Sep 2, 2021 at 4:37pm

An observation: over time, I've noticed that when employees aren't treated well or paid properly, it can come back on them, sometimes quietly in the background without them even knowing. E.G. one employer I worked for repeatedly declined to raise the abysmal pay rate, even though they were skilled, committed and going well beyond the job requirements. They thought handing out useless perks would be enough, like, "hey you can take home this equipment and use it for a while!" or "You can use the van for the afternoon!" (Lucky you!) I understood he was robbed blind across a couple of years, just before folding.

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@Agreed

Sep 2, 2021 at 5:41pm

Are wages better in other big cities? I feel like that might not be true, because everything I read about this subject, people complain about how low the wages are in the city they live. Particularly in the USA.

I've never been loyal to my employer! I always go where the money is better, or for whatever reason. I've switched jobs many times. Sometimes they ask what they could do to keep me, but they never act on it, so screw 'em I say! I'm a mercenary, my skill set goes to work for the highest bidder. To employers, the worker is just like a lightbulb, replace as they burn out. So why should you go out of your way to stay loyal?

For all the business owners and management types out there, the time of reckoning is at hand! The old saying "good help is hard to find" has never been as true as it is now. So stop shitting on your good employees and make it worth their while to stay! Otherwise you're going to feel the effects.

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@Yeah

Sep 2, 2021 at 6:35pm

This is exactly the problem; companies whine about not being able to afford to pay more, but the majority of them absolutely can. They’re just greedy and they haven’t grasped the fact that they need to share the wealth. For decades now many of these employers have been enjoying big profits while paying their employees as little as possible. The whole “you should just be happy to have a job!” attitude is rampant. My own former employer went on months long vacations at least twice a year, drove an expensive German vehicle, and lived in a very nice home. Meanwhile he was paying his employees very low salaries (we were salaried so he didn’t ever pay overtime no matter how long our hours were) and denying raises for all but a very few at the top. After Covid hit he lost several of his best people so now he’s got mostly young and inexperienced people working for him. I don’t feel even remotely sorry for him.

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@OP

Sep 2, 2021 at 8:27pm

"I have been through so many jobs"

Well if you are hopping from job to job to job with no references- in the service industry or something else requiring no education nor specialized skills- you cannot expect a high paying career with benefits.

Period.

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