I’m a 40 year old

woman who’s never been married or had kids, and I look at the state of the world and I don’t want any!! I mean, it literally seems like we humans are a virus that the Earth is trying to shake off!! I have friends getting pregnant lately, one of whom is 46 and has been trying for a long time, and honestly it all just makes me cringe! I like kids a lot but in my mind that’s even more reason not to bring them into this insane world. If I’d met the right person in my 20’s sure I might have thought differently but after going through Covid and all these fires and migration crises happening globally every single day, etc., what would be the point when every single climate scientist clearly has stated things are only going to get much worse?? Are people totally insane? Is procreation a form of denial? Everyone I know who has kids seems to have done it for their own personal reasons and hasn’t even thought much about all this. Maybe I’m the crazy one??!


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The climate science says it all.

Aug 21, 2023 at 9:50am

You’re seeing reality clearly and make good points about the personal motivations of breeders getting in the way of reason.

As someone who has no maternal instinct and no desire to procreate, I agree that bringing kids into the world sounds delusional.

For people who have those strong desires to make babies, perhaps they are operating on faith that somehow things will turn around and we won’t be facing Mad Max levels of scarcity and chaos in 30 years time.


Aug 21, 2023 at 10:02am

Regarding humans as a virus is rather nihilistic. Like you I also am not married nor have children, but I honestly can't imagine judging other people for their choices. You're making the wild assumption that all of human procreation turn out to be self-involved nightmares. I try to be positive and optimistic, and for all I know, parents are rearing children to recycle and compost at a young age, learning that caring for the Earth is imperative. I reject a doom and gloom outlook. It accomplishes little.

There isn't just one way

Aug 21, 2023 at 11:45am

and everyone has to find the way that works for them. In my life I found having a farm taught me the most in cultivating foods and being connected to the Mother Earth. And, cultivating children even more so. However, the OP certainly makes a point about what is the condition of this World now days that we are bringing our children into. Oh well ! There are trillions of planets and who knows how many dimensions and who knows how the how the infinite infinity is all linked together/

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You're not crazy

Aug 21, 2023 at 1:02pm

I agree that it's insane to have kids. So many people are in denial.

"Aliens". Infiltration & Usurpation

Aug 21, 2023 at 1:30pm

I don't believe we humans are the problem. Certainly not at the heart of the problem. They're here, they've always been here, and even though they look human their humanity is only skin deep. They've been ruling over us and calling the shots for way too long. They're far too greedy, power hungry, corrupt, and evil to manage anything especially a planet successfully without completely destroying it. They don't really have the right to be here or have any kind of authority here anyways.

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Aug 21, 2023 at 2:49pm

Antinatalism has gone mainstream. No one consents to being born and the person's suffering is guaranteed, never mind the planet is slowly becoming unlivable.

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People have always had kids,

Aug 21, 2023 at 3:45pm

reproductive activity is the worlds most popular form of recreation, it's just what creatures do. Dinosaurs were having kids when their era was ended by a meteor but this time the meteor is us. I got the message that modernity is a catastrophe in progress before I was old enough to have kids so I don't have any either.

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Opposing Viewpoint

Aug 21, 2023 at 6:03pm

It might be the sanest, most grounding thing people can do in times like these. Life goes on. Maybe a child born now will be useful in a crisis in the near future. It doesn't help to regard each other as viruses. Have you thought about how demoralizing that can be, regardless of the situation? It's pretty disheartening to hear everyone constantly going on about how they hate people. Most people are reasonably kind, but it only takes one monster to ruin the lives of thousands of others.

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Bleeding heart

Aug 21, 2023 at 6:52pm

I’m heartbroken for all of the young people who have been denied the future that those of us who went before have enjoyed. I understand the anger that you hold. But know that many of us old people are the ones who have been fighting for the environment for many, many decades. Unfortunately the powers that be have won the fight and this is what has resulted. I have grandchildren who may never be able to own a home or have children. Those of us who are over 60 who don’t believe how difficult and different things are for young people now need to open their eyes and minds! The young people who are lucky enough to have been born into wealth will possibly not have to do without, but for the majority who were born to middle class working people, they will have to struggle just for basic needs. Nothing at all like it was for most of us borne here in Canada or other wealthy countries. Our country is on fire, the cost of living is unsustainable, and I can’t imagine how it must feel trying to raise children with any real enthusiasm or hope for their futures with all of this chaos going on.

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Aug 21, 2023 at 7:37pm

You’re not crazy. Whether you want kids or not is nobody’s decision but yours. I’m a single human being that’s almost 40 and still child free but couldn’t care less. I’m enjoying my life the way it is and wouldn’t change a damn thing about it whatsoever.

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