Does sex with a trans woman make me gay?
I’m a straight male, 21 years old. I love women, I’ve always loved women, I’ve always loved having sex with women. However, in the last year, here and there, I’ve jerked off to transsexual porn. One night, after drinking with a friend and smoking some hash, I arranged a date with a trans sex worker. She was totally womanly, nothing manly about her, except for, you know. She licked my butt, gave me head, and fingered me. I’ve been on the receiving end of anal play before from girls, so nothing new. But somewhere during this encounter, I became the receiving partner during anal sex. At the time, I was too fucked up to care. But the next day, I started to feel really bad. She was very safe and used condoms for everything. I just can’t get past the fact that I did the gayest thing a guy can do. I feel really depressed about this traumatic situation. I can’t seem to enjoy my life anymore. I’ve even felt somewhat suicidal. (I would never kill myself—I wouldn’t do that to my family and friends.) I still want to date women and have sex with women. I don’t regret being with a trans woman because I wanted to experiment. I’ve been tested since the encounter to make sure I didn’t catch anything. What I regret is her sticking her thing in my butt. Can a single act like this make me gay? Please help.
> Wrong Side Of Wild Side
Give yourself a break, WSOWS.
Yes, yes: you did the gayest thing a guy can do—you allowed someone to put a dick in your man butt—but now you’re doing the second-gayest thing a guy can do. You’re being a huge drama queen about the whole thing. Stop acting so cray, as the kids say, and repeat after me: one dick in the ass does not a gay man make. Look at it this way: the difference between having a woman’s finger in your ass and having a woman’s dick in your ass is a matter of degree. If the woman’s finger was fine—to say nothing of the woman’s tongue—why freak out about the woman’s dick? Remember: you don’t sleep with men; you’re not attracted to men. You made an exception for this woman’s dick because her dick is exceptional: it’s attached to a woman.
So maybe you took a longer walk on the wild side than you might have if you’d gone on that walk sober, WSOWS, but, thankfully, your sex worker was conscientious and responsible and used condoms. So you didn’t emerge from this encounter with anything more devastating than a touch of gay panic. Be a man about this—be a straight man about this—and walk it off, as the football coaches say.
Maybe this will help: like a lot of gay men, I had sex with a woman before I came out. I did the straightest thing a guy can do—I put my dick in a vag—and it didn’t make me straight. You did the gayest thing a guy can do—you let someone put a dick in your ass—but that didn’t make you gay. Because you’re not gay, WSOWS, and one ride on a trans escort’s dick can’t change that.
If nothing I’ve said has made you feel better, WSOWS, maybe this will: gay men don’t hire trans women sex workers. Wanting to be with a woman who has a dick is an almost exclusively straight-male kink/obsession/wild side. Gay men are into dick, of course, but what we’re really into is dudes. There are gay men out there who date and fuck and shack up with trans men—men with pussies—so not all gay men are after dick. What we’re all after is dude.
If our gayness can’t be defined solely by dick, WSOWS, then surely your straightness can’t be undone entirely by dick.
I’m a married straight man. I recently spent a lovely day snorkelling with my wife in Mexico. We were grouped with three men who were obviously in a committed three-person relationship. I lacked the cojones to ask directly, but they had an extensive travel history together and lived together, everything was “we” this or that, and there were various PDA pairings during the day. They were lovely people. I wish we all lived in the same city, as it’s hard to meet cool people who aren’t exactly like you when you’re married with kids. Several questions: 1) What do gay people call such a union? 2) Does the gay community think it’s odd? Unremarkable? Sensible? 3) How does a union like that form? A couple adds a third? 4) Do these relationships last? Lots of pros and cons, just curious how it plays out.
> Three-way Relationship Intrigues Oblivious Straights
1. Such unions are referred to as “throuples” by gays and straights. For a picture of the inner workings of a gay throuple, TRIOS, check out Molly Young’s profile of one in New York magazine’s most recent “Sex Issue”. Benny, Jason, and Adrian are the men behind the popular “gipster” porn site CockyBoys.com, and you can read Young’s piece about their home, work, and sex lives.
2. Some gay people think throuples are odd, some think they’re unremarkable, and some think they’re sensible. And some gay people—some dumb ones—think gay throuples are bad PR at a time when gay couples are fighting for the right to marry. But our fight is for equal rights, not double standards, and no one argues that straight marriage should be banned because of all the straight throuples, quadles, quintles, sextetles, et cetera, out there.
3. In my experience, yes, that’s usually how it happens.
4. Throupledom presents unique challenges: major life decisions require buy-in from three people; two can gang up against one during arguments; the partners who were coupled before the third came along may treat the third as a junior partner, not an equal partner, et cetera. But throupledom presents unique benefits, too: another set of hands to help around the house, another income to pay down the mortgage, another smiling face to sit on, et cetera. And it’s not like coupledom is a sure-fire recipe for success. Half of all marriages—those traditional “one man, one woman, for life” marriages—end in divorce. Yet discussions of throupledom all seem to begin with the assumption that coupledom is a self-evidently more stable arrangement. Maybe it is; maybe it isn’t. I’d like to see some research comparing throuples to couples before I accept that premise.
I recently used the term “saddlebacking” to indicate the position where a man rubs his penis between his partner’s ass cheeks as either foreplay or nonintercourse sex. My girlfriend, a regular reader of your column, insists that I used the term incorrectly. Did I?
> Rubbed The Wrong Way
You did, RTWW. “Saddlebacking”, as defined by Savage Love readers (the Académie française of sexual neologisms), is when two straight teenagers, endeavouring to preserve an evangelical girl’s virginity, engage in anal intercourse. This is a thing that really happens. Since anal sex isn’t really sex, according to the abstinence educators evangelical teens are exposed to, many good Christian teenagers rationalize that getting fucked in the ass doesn’t really count against a girl’s virginity.
The act to which you refer—rubbing your penis between someone’s ass cheeks as foreplay or as a substitute for intercourse—is known variously as frottage, outercourse, the Princeton Rub, or “the pearl tramp stamp”. But in Chicago, it’s known as “the Cardinal George”.More
Insecure people are funny
Jan 11, 2013 at 3:00pm
If I did this with that same or opposite sex person/listened to that band/read that book/had that fantasy/watched that tv show/ate that food or had that drink/went to that club/dressed in those clothes/watched that kind of porn/did that particular sex act and liked it, does that make me _____ (gay/straight/bi/pan/other/none of the above)? If it was just about what we did, we'd all be some or all of these at any given time of the day/month/season/semester/year/decade.
Mar 5, 2013 at 1:49am
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Oct 12, 2014 at 7:09pm
NO!!!! , if a gay (lets say the stereotypical one) has sex with a woman, does he become straight???? no...
just stop being fucked even if that made u enjoy, otherwise u could be considered as bisexual, well being fucked by a girl or a ts isn't really that gay,
YOU BORN GAY OR YOU BORN STRAIGHT, u cant change it (at least someone makes you a new genetically modification that probably doesn't exist)
yea, fuck all the gays, u wont become gay! OK?