My former high-school teacher won't stop sexting me
Last summer, I reconnected with a high-school teacher I hadn’t seen for a year. We first met when I was 15, and I had nothing but respect for him and his intelligence. I also had a crush on him for the next four years. Fastforward a year. He is sexting me and sending dick pics and wants to hook up. He has told me he loves me. I feel violated and tricked, like he was supposed to be someone I could trust and he didn’t respect that. Now I wonder how teachers really see underage high-school girls. This whole experience has made me feel dirty. Moreover, he has never respected that I have a boyfriend and that I want nothing to do with his advances. I met up with a former classmate, and she told me that this teacher and another teacher said similar things to her. Ew! Most former classmates of mine still believe him to be a respectable man and a great teacher. But I know him for what he really is, and when I think of it, I get so angry. How do I move on from this?
> Schooling Thankfully Over Permanently
I would never want to minimize the creepiness factor of a former teacher sending you dick pics and refusing to take “I want nothing to do with your advances” for an answer. (And you didn’t just say “I have a boyfriend” and hope that he would hear “And I want nothing to do with your advances,” right? Because if all you said was “I have a boyfriend,” STOP, he may have heard, “I would love to fuck you, but I have a boyfriend.”)
And I definitely believe high-school teachers—all teachers who work with minors—should refrain from fucking current students and sending dick pics to former students. One is statutory rape and an abuse of power (fucking underage students); the other is career suicide (hitting on former students will get your ass fired eventually).
As for the other issues you raise…
This guy was your teacher when you were 15…you had a crush on him for four years…a crush he doubtless picked up on…and you somehow reconnected with him after not seeing him for a year…and one year after reconnecting, he’s still contacting you despite your rejection of him.
If I’ve got the time line right (math is still hard!), STOP, you were 19 or 20 when you reconnected with your former teacher and you’re 20 or 21 now. Maybe even 22. That means nothing happened—nothing appropriate or inappropriate—until you were 1) no longer his student and 2) legally an adult. Your former teacher did nothing inappropriate when you were his student (you surely would’ve included that detail), and so far as you know, he’s never behaved inappropriately toward a current student.
Which means either your former teacher has a solid age-range floor (he’s not attracted to anyone under the age of 18) or he’s capable of exercising self-control (not only can he refrain from fucking girls under the age of 18 who he happens to find attractive, he can conduct himself in such a way that those girls have no idea he finds them attractive).
Your former classmate’s story complicates the picture—and yucks the picture—but she was a former student and an adult when these teachers said “similar things” to her, right? That’s still creepy, of course, it’s still not okay, and it’s still potential career suicide for both these idiots. But it’s not technically illegal.
If you honestly believe that either or both of these idiots are behaving inappropriately toward their current students, STOP, you should approach the administration at your old high school with your concerns. Doing so will result in the end of their careers as educators—but if these guys are trying to fuck their current students and/or grooming their current students for fucking a year or two after they graduate, then both should get the fuck out of teaching.
As for feeling dirty, STOP, I don’t understand where that’s coming from. You didn’t do anything dirty. The realization that this teacher might have had a crush on you back when you had one on him—and he might not have had a crush on you then—shouldn’t hurl you into some sort of existential crisis.
If knowing that a teacher might have found you sexually attractive back when you were a junior in high school leaves you feeling violated, tricked, and angry, STOP, if that realization has you convinced that all teachers are secret perverts, then you seem to be operating under a faulty set of assumptions about what teachers are. They’re not robots, they’re not eunuchs, they’re not humanoids from a parallel universe where life isn’t occasionally complicated by an unwanted sexual attraction. Teachers are human beings, and like all other human beings*, they sometimes experience sexual attraction, including sexual attraction of the unwelcome and/or inappropriate variety.
What they choose to do about it—suppress it, act on it—determines whether they’re respectable men and women and (possibly) great teachers or total creeps and/or sex offenders.
This does not, of course, excuse what your former teacher is doing to you now. He’s sexually harassing you. Tell him to stop and threaten to take it up with the school board if he doesn’t. How do you move on? You do what I do on Twitter: block and forget the asshole—BAFTA.
Male here, 21 years old. I’ve been in a relationship with my girlfriend for a year and a half. We have somewhat kink-themed sex, though nothing too intense. My girlfriend is very submissive, and I’m more on the submissive side myself, so we have done only light bondage and light flogging. Recently, my girlfriend and I had a fight, and while things were still kind of heated, she suggested I “punish” her by spanking her, which I did, and we wound up having a much better, calmer conversation after the spanking. The next day, she proposed that this be something we do more often. I am not certain about all the dynamics at play here. Is this a healthy approach to resolving conflict? We already do a bit of kink, and there would be two consenting partners. But at the same time, I don’t want to be an abusive boyfriend or something. It seemed to help us resolve the conflict—but if we do it more, I’m not sure it would play out as well. It happened only that one time, so I haven’t moved forward on it. I’m uncertain whether it would be good for our relationship.
> Keeping It Newly Kinky
Research conducted at Tilburg University in the Netherlands found that kinky people—people who engaged in consensual submission, bondage, and pain play—scored better on most measures of psychological health than non-kinky people. So enjoying a spanking, asking for one, giving one on request, et cetera, isn’t evidence that there’s something wrong with you or your relationship. As for whether it’s a good idea to spank your girlfriend in the heat of an argument, well, that depends on two things: whether she wants to be spanked at those times (gotta keep it consensual) and whether the spanking—for you—represents an extension of the argument or a suspension of the argument. If you’re setting aside the argument to enjoy a spanking—maybe a little conflict gets her blood pumping and turns her on—and then picking it up later, after you’ve both enjoyed a spanking, then I don’t see the harm.
* Except for asexual humans, of course. Except for them.
May 6, 2015 at 8:09am
I think you had a brain fart on this one, Dan. First, you correctly point out that, unless STOP has explicitly told the teacher to stop sending texts, (or used BAFTA) she may have inadvertently given the wrong impression. Second, you remind STOP: "Your former teacher did nothing inappropriate when you were his student...and so far as you know, he’s never behaved inappropriately toward a current student."
Then you turn around and give this advice: "If you honestly believe that either or both of these idiots are behaving inappropriately toward their current students, STOP, you should approach the administration at your old high school with your concerns.... if these guys are trying to fuck their current students and/or grooming their current students for fucking a year or two after they graduate, then both should get the fuck out of teaching."
Where did THAT come from? Are you factoring in what STOP's friend told her? It's pretty easy to imagine a situation where STOP's friend, not wanting to be outdone, decides to "one up" STOP's sexting harassment story with her own story of TWO teachers trying have sex with her...bolstering the idea that this teacher is targeting former students.
Don't get me wrong, I think any guy who sends unsolicited / unwanted dick pics is a creep. But I worry that STOP will read your column and her take-away will be: "I need to contact the school board." I don't think contacting any creep's employer is an appropriate first response. If STOP takes your other advice, including threatening to contact the school board, and the harassment continues, then I agree that career-ending action may be warranted.
read it again
May 6, 2015 at 9:27pm
@former teacher, Dan said if the teacher is trying to fuck his current student(s) or setting something up for a year or two later they should quit teaching, because a teacher shouldnt be focused on fucking their students. And he said contact the school board IF the teacher doesnt stop harassing after being told to stop. Dont be so quick to defend your former colleagues.
May 7, 2015 at 1:45pm
Dear "read it again". Can I call you RIA? I'd like to clarify my concerns about STOP possibly taking away the wrong message from Dan's column. (I hope you're reading this, Dan!)
First, let me apologize for a small deception. I'm not a former SCHOOL teacher. I taught in a corporate setting, covering a variety of topics including sexual harassment in the workplace. I signed myself "Former teacher" to see how it would colour reader reactions. Your response was enlightening. The ONLY thing I said about the teacher is I think he's a creep and if, after being warned, he doesn't stop harassing STOP, she should report him to the school board (because it will then be clear he doesn't have the self-control required of a teacher.) That's pretty clearly not siding with the teacher. But your take-away? I'm rushing to the defense of my former colleagues. My guess is, you read "Former teacher" and immediately made some wrong assumptions about my intentions and attitudes.
My intent was to provide feedback to Dan. I thought his column was confusing and even inflammatory. As your comment helped to demonstrate, RIA, when dealing with sexual harassment, it is easy for emotions to colour or even pervert understanding...and STOP is clearly emotional right now.
As you said, RIA, "Dan said if the teacher is trying to fuck his current student(s) or setting something up for a year or two later they should quit teaching, because a teacher shouldnt be focused on fucking their students." No argument there. The problem is STOP never said ANYTHING to indicate that any of that was happening. In fact, she said quite the opposite. The whole idea of the teacher being predatory came from Dan, not her. Then, after planting this idea, Dan says "IF YOU HONESTLY BELIEVE that either or both of these idiots are behaving inappropriately toward their current students, STOP, you should approach the administration at your old high school with your concerns." Not "if you have proof" or even "if you have evidence"...just "if you honestly believe". And where would this belief have come from? Dan Savage? This is my big problem with Dan's column. You're right, RIA, at the end of the column, Dan says, "Tell him to stop and threaten to take it up with the school board IF he doesn’t." But, in her emotional state, which advice will 21 year old STOP take away and act on?
May 7, 2015 at 5:21pm