Is disagreeing on abortion a deal breaker?

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I recently discovered that my boyfriend of seven months and I have opposing viewpoints on the whole “life begins at conception” issue. He’s not a crazy zealot, but he is strongly against abortion. And while he won’t go so far as to say abortion should be banned, he does believe in the whole “personhood” concept, i.e., that a fetus—from the moment of conception—is a person with the same rights as any other person. This shocked me, and I almost broke up with him. He says that disagreeing on issues is fine in a relationship, but I am not so sure. I find his position abhorrent, one that ignores hundreds of real-life factors, and it opens the door for a litany of laws regulating my body. He’s a sweet, loving guy and progressive in every other way. But I’m suddenly unsure about a relationship I viewed as totally solid just a few days ago. I’m not sure if this should be a deal breaker or if this is just a disagreement. Please advise.

> Love Is Finding Errors

Your boyfriend won’t go so far as to say abortion should be banned… or maybe he saw the shocked look on your face and realized that going so far as to say abortion should be banned to you would be a big mistake.

Here’s a good way to find out if your boyfriend is serious about not wanting to impose his personal beliefs on others or whether he’s an antichoice zealot: tell him you’re pregnant.

Some men blithely assume antichoice positions because “personhood” and other antichoice arguments appeal to them in the abstract, and, hey, it’s not like their bodies or their futures are on the line, right? Most antichoice-in-the-abstract men come to a very different conclusion about the importance of access to safe and legal abortion when an unplanned pregnancy impacts them directly.

So tell your boyfriend you’re pregnant. You can present it as a thought experiment if you prefer, LIFE, but I think you should flat-out lie to him. Then, once the news sinks in, ask him if he’s ready to provide financial support for a child and/or make regular, monthly child-support payments directly to you. Ask him if he’s ready for the responsibilities (and the grind) of full-time or even part-time parenting. Ask him if he knows you well enough—just seven short months into this relationship—to make the kind of lifetime commitment that scrambling your DNA together entails. Because even if you don’t get married, even if you don’t live together and raise this child together, you two will be stuck with each other for the rest of your lives if you have the baby.

I’m guessing his answers will be “no, no, and no” and he’ll offer to drive you to the nearest abortion clinic himself.

As for whether you should date someone who is antichoice, well, women have to be in control of their own bodies—and when and whether or not they reproduce—in order to be truly equal. I don’t think I could date someone who didn’t see me as his equal or who believed that the state should regulate my sexual or reproductive choices. So, yeah, this shit would be a deal breaker for me, LIFE, if I had a vagina.

Actually, this issue is a deal breaker for me, even though I don’t have a vagina. I wouldn’t date a gay dude who was antichoice. Any gay man who can’t see the connection between a woman’s right to have children when she chooses and his right to love and marry the person he chooses is an idiot. And I don’t date idiots.

If your hypothetical pregnancy doesn’t shock your boyfriend out of his idiocy, LIFE, you’ll have to ask yourself if you can continue dating this idiot.

And speaking of abortion…

Researchers at Washington University in St. Louis released the results of a massive study—more than 9,000 women participated—on the effects of making birth control more widely available. And how did they make birth control more widely available? They gave it away for free. And it turns out that making birth control available to women at no cost, which is what the president is trying to do, reduced the teen birthrate by more than 80 percent (from 34.3 births per 1,000 teens on average to 6.3 births per 1,000 for teens enrolled in the study), and it reduced the number of abortions by 62 to 78 percent (from 19.6 abortions per 1,000 women on average to 4.4 to 7.5 abortions per 1,000 women enrolled in the study).

A person can’t call himself pro-life and oppose access to birth control (or Obamacare!). If you do oppose access to birth control—or you oppose Obamacare because it expands access to birth control—you’re not really pro-life. You’re just antisex.


I found porn on my kid’s computer and I talked to him about being careful about spyware, the difference between actual intimacy and objectification, and that kind of thing. I don’t have a problem with a 15-year-old boy looking at porn—so long as he’s discreet and doesn’t do it to excess. But what my kid was looking at was standard stuff, i.e., garden-variety M/F porn and a touch of M/M porn. But a friend found a stash of really kinky violence-against-women stuff on her kid’s computer. I’m thinking a parent can’t let that go as easily. She’s about to confront her kid. I don’t think you can help her with what to say, since she’ll already have said something, but what would you have advised her to say?

> My Friend’s Kinky Son

You meet two kinds of people at kink events and in kink spaces: people who’ve always known they were kinky—people who were jerking off to kinky fantasies and/or porn long before they were 15—and people who got into kink after falling in love with someone who was kinky. Your friend’s son sounds like one of the former.

It’s important for your friend to bear in mind that her son, if he is indeed kinky, sought out kinky porn. Kinky porn didn’t make him kinky. And being shamed by his mother for his porn preferences—or his kinks—isn’t going to unmake his kinks.

That said, MFKS, your friend should talk with her son about the difference between porn and real sex—kinky or vanilla—and the difference between erotic power exchange and violence. She should also talk to him about safety and misogyny, and she should encourage him to be thoughtful about his sexuality. And, most importantly, MFKS, she should emphasize the importance of meaningful and informed consent.

Your friend’s son isn’t going to want to dialogue with his mom about his porn stash or his kinks, MFKS, so she should go in prepared to monologue at him.

Finally, there’s a chance that your friend’s son isn’t kinky and was just looking for the most appalling shit he could find on the Internet. Mom should acknowledge that as a possibility, and her son, even if he is kinky, is likely to seize on that excuse. If he does claim that he was just looking for shocking video clips, she should say: “I believe you. But there’s a small chance that you’re saying that because you think it’s what I want to hear. So I’m going to say everything I wanted to say about safety, misogyny, and consent just in case. And all of it applies to vanilla sex, too.”

 

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Comments

23 Comments

Faye Dee

Oct 15, 2012 at 3:14pm

Lying about being pregnant is pretty much the same thing as DTMFA, as there really isn't any other possible outcome from that action.

It seems highly unlikely that the situation would play out like this:
"Honey, I'm pregnant."
"Oh, I'm not ready to deal with that. Perhaps abortion IS a viable alternative."
"Just kidding! I'm not really pregnant!"
"Well played, you got me there! Good thing I was given this opportunity to reconsider my values. I love you, honey."

I feel like one of these situations would be more likely:
#1
"Honey, I'm pregnant."
"Oh... well, I intend to step up and take responsibility because this is important to me."
"Just kidding! I'm not really pregnant!"
"What is wrong with you? Why would you do that? There is absolutely no way I would consider a relationship with someone who would do something like that - we're breaking up."
#2
"Honey, I'm pregnant."
"Oh, I'm not ready to deal with that. Perhaps abortion IS a viable alternative."
"Just kidding! I'm not really pregnant!"
"What is wrong with you? Why would you do that? I have no interest in a partner that is that manipulative - we're breaking up."

Common values are important in a relationship - if LIFE and her partner can't reconcile their differences or if she decides that he really is firmly pro-life, then they should discuss this and break up... I would just suggest skipping the step that makes LIFE into "that crazy ex-girlfriend who lied about being pregnant".

steve wilson

Oct 16, 2012 at 9:40pm

hey morons, there's a reason why porn is illegal for kids - it's harmful. just like smoking, booze or drugs. And you're the exact parents who won't understand what you did wrong when your daughter gets knocked up or hooked on drugs.

Steve Griffiths

Oct 19, 2012 at 3:38pm

Wow, coulpes cannot have divergent beliefs about divisive issues. How broad-minded. Try watching the episode of Seinfeld where Elaine broke up with a great guy because he happened to be opposed to the legalized dismemberment of human fetuses. The joke was how shallow and narrow-minded Elaine was to break up over such a disagreement. LW1, take note.

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