CBC panelists Bruce Anderson and Andrew Coyne manufacture consent that Dick Cheney is not a war criminal

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      Last night on CBC's The National, viewers got a dose of how an elite consensus is formed in this country.

      And the elite consensus for now is that former U.S. president George W. Bush and former vice president Dick Cheney are not war criminals.

      One of the commentators on last night's At Issue panel, Harris Decima senior associate Bruce Anderson, reinforced that by suggesting there were political risks when NDP MPs "tilt at all kinds of windmills".

      Anderson cited two instances in the past week of New Democrats making remarks that "will strike some centrist voters as being not ready for primetime".

      "One example may be being the NDP critic who said that Dick Cheney shouldn't be allowed in the country," Anderson said. "A lot of people in Canada don't like Dick Cheney, don't agree with what he did, but I think that might not strike people as being the way to handle that issue."

      As he was making this comment, the CBC inserted a shot of another panelist, Andrew Coyne, nodding his head in agreement.

      Then Anderson said that NDP leadership candidate Brian Topp's opposition to the Keystone XL pipeline was also risky.

      At that point, Coyne responded: "I agree that some of the positions of the party or of members of the party can strike people as eccentric. I'm not sure I would classify opposition to the Keystone as being that. I think that's something a respectable opinion could hold..."

      Ergo, according to these elite commentators, it's not a "respectable opinion" to believe that Cheney should be barred from entering Canada under Section 35 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act, as Vancouver Kingsway NDP MP and lawyer Don Davies argued on September 23.

      This exchange was broadcast across Canada on the same day that the mainstream media ignored a news conference held by two legal groups in Vancouver to urge that Bush be prosecuted for torture in Canada.

      The event was held across the street from the Vancouver CBC building by the New York-based Center for Constitutional Rights and the Canadian Centre for International Justice, which released a 70-page indictment against the former president.

      At the news conference, lawyers Katherine Gallagher and Matt Eisenbrandt placed several binders of documents on the table to advance their argument that Canada is required under the UN convention on torture to arrest Bush when he arrives in the Lower Mainland for an October 20 speaking engagement.

      Gallagher insisted that Bush has no claim of immunity now that he is out of office.

      "This lengthy indictment details how George Bush is accountable for torture, needs to be held accountable for torture, and a credible case exists," she stated.

      So far, elite media commentators, Justice Department lawyers, and the police haven't seemed to grasp this.

      I asked Eisenbrandt if it's possible to hold Crown counsel accountable for their inaction.

      "What we need to do is when Crown officials fail to fulfill their legal obligations under the convention against torture, we need to use the mechanisms available to us—first through the international system to hold the government responsible for failing in its duties," he replied. "And beyond that, again, I think that there is a need for education not just of the public but of government officials about their duties and their legal obligations so that in the future, perhaps different action will be taken."

      Matt Eisenbrandt says it's necessary to educate people about Canada's international legal obligations.

      Eisenbrandt also said that the lawyers "are serious about this and we aren't going to stop".

       

      Comments

      9 Comments

      GOT

      Sep 30, 2011 at 1:48pm

      Centrist Canadians? That would be the mindless middle class twits who keep electing the idiots who pass for governing bodies in this country. The caption to your photo of Bruce Anderson is twice as long as it needs to be. 'Bruce Anderson says Centrist Canadians don't think' would be adequate, or possibly 'Centrist Canadians don't think Dick', which would be more accurate.

      CanNurse

      Sep 30, 2011 at 2:24pm

      LOL! Bruce Anderson! So reliable & unbiased! (snicker!) "Bruce Anderson is one of Canada’s most experienced advisors specializing in issue, marketing and reputation management. For more than two decades he has helped corporations, governments and political leaders understand the context in which they operate and develop successful communications programs. " -from his firm's website.
      And Andrew Coyne - well known for his writing for the National Post.
      Wow, way ta pick 'em CBC!

      TheParadigmShift

      Sep 30, 2011 at 2:56pm

      The CBC is Canada's propaganda machine. It's called "programming" for a reason!

      Dick Cheney admits to authorizing "enhanced interrogation techniques" like waterboarding and slicing one's genitals with razor blades like they did to Binyam Mohamed.

      I say next time a CBC propagandist...I mean "panelist" says slicing genitals with razor blades is "not torture" than he should take part in a demonstration.

      MaryC

      Sep 30, 2011 at 11:14pm

      I watched this segment on the CBC and could not believe my ears when they denied Cheney's complicity in torture, I was truly stunned. A bit stunned of me to be stunned, but I keep watching for some strange reason. Maybe it's because the CBC is my public broadcaster & I keep hoping they might act in the public interest. Silly me.

      David Sheridan

      Oct 1, 2011 at 10:16am

      Compared to Cheney and Bush, Charles Manson was an underachiever.

      Nestor

      Oct 1, 2011 at 10:18pm

      "His attitude reminded me of Mohandas Gandhi's famous dictum: 'First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.'"

      The fact that you could even write and publish this sentence with what I imagine was a straight face only goes to show the degree to which your delusions have progressed, Charlie. Between giving an affirming voice to Randy Quaid, UFO believers, 9/11 conspiracy theorists, Israel haters, and, increasingly, people who choose to call Dick Cheney not merely an asshole, but a "war criminal" and a "fascist," yet for some reason never had anything to say about the real fascists in both conflicts in question (Saddam Hussein's Ba'athist regime in Iraq and the Taliban in Afghanistan), the Georgia Straight is slowly but surely becoming a platform for all the crazies of the Western world under your leadership. Congratulations! A job well done. After all, it would probably create a tear in the fabric of reality if anyone in this city were to ever formulate any sort of relevant criticism.

      Martin Dunphy

      Oct 2, 2011 at 12:23am

      Nestor:
      I will leave it up to Charlie to respond to the particulars of your wide-ranging complaint, if he so chooses.
      However, I will say that I find it strange that you--someone who, on the face of it, at least, appears concerned about having all facets of any given story examined--are intolerant about the Straight giving voice to any interpretation of an issue that is contrary to the position held by yourself.
      I suggest you use the "search" function on this page to find articles in the Straight on topics of interest to yourself. We publish commentaries by, and stories about, a wide range of people and organizations, without discrimination.
      I suggest it is intolerant and shortsighted of you to label this wide range of constituents "all the crazies of the western world".
      We are open to input, articles, suggestions, and comments from everyone.
      Including yourself.
      You have a nice day.

      Nestor

      Oct 2, 2011 at 10:30am

      "I find it strange that you--someone who, on the face of it, at least, appears concerned about having all facets of any given story examined--are intolerant about the Straight giving voice to any interpretation of an issue that is contrary to the position held by yourself."

      Aside from the fact the your "search function" is among the worst I've ever come across (for instance, I couldn't even find this very article searching for either "CBC," "manufacture," or "consent"), I call bovine feces on your claim to "fair and balanced." I would say that you have become the exact opposite of that other North American news outlet that uses this tagline, but that would be giving too much credit. If, at least, you were the mouthpiece for progressive propaganda you (secretly) fancy yourself to be, your current flurry of a dozen or so articles and opinion pieces per week demonizing Dick Cheney and George W. Bush would have had an equivalent prior to 2001 and 2003, respectively, in a similarly voluminous series of texts attacking the way, say, communists were treated under Saddam Hussein or women under the Taliban. And if you were truly neutral, as you (officially) claim, why have you never published anything in support of creationism or critical of global warming? After all, if your argument for publishing UFO nuts and 9/11 "truthers" (I still hate that they even get to use that term) is to give a platform to all convictions, no matter how insane and counterfactual their foundations, why not also "teach the controversy" when it comes to the Earth being 6000 years old? Face or, rather, admit it: There is nothing neutral about the Straight. Don't get me wrong, I personally don't consider that to be a bad thing. You don't have to, in fact you shouldn't, give a voice to every ideological nutcase in the world (and I use ideology strictly in the Marxist sense here, as always). What I disagree with is your selection and what it says about you.

      Martin Dunphy

      Oct 2, 2011 at 1:54pm

      Nestor:
      I suggest that a reasonable person would type the article subjects' names in a search box, especially if those names appear in the headline. Try it some time.
      As far as "never" publishing "anything" in support of creationism or about how communists were treated under Saddam Hussein:

      http://www.straight.com/article/the-return-of-god
      http://www.straight.com/article/searching-for-truth-in-religion-and-science
      http://www.straight.com/article-63752/saddam-hussein-hanged-for-the-wron...

      The subject of women's treatment under the Taliban turned up too many hits to reproduce here.
      And we have posted so many comments and opinions from climate-change deniers that we have taken a lot of flack from regular readers.
      But we are committed to doing just that, because this is a democratic forum, despite the picture you are attempting to paint.
      The fact that you use words such as "hate" and "insane" and "crazies" says enough about your wish to limit conversations online.
      And we still publish your comments. Although this discussion has used up enough space on this particular thread.
      You have a nice day.