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UBC medical school seeks less-affluent students

Medical students are racially diverse, but a disproportionate percentage come from wealthy urban families.

Martin Dee
By Jon Azpiri,

When Joseph Finkler goes to work as an emergency-room physician at St. Paul’s Hospital, he knows he will come across patients from all walks of life. He knows that his downtown emergency room is just as likely to see a wealthy stockbroker as it is a sex-trade worker.

When Finkler goes to work at his other job as associate dean of admissions in the UBC faculty of medicine, he doesn’t see the same kind of diversity. According to him, many UBC med students have more in common with Yaletown than with the Downtown Eastside.

Finkler wants to make UBC the first university in Canada to address the fact that a disproportionately large number of medical students are wealthy city dwellers.

“We definitely have a racially diverse class,” he tells the Georgia Straight over lunch at an Earls restaurant near Vancouver General Hospital. “You can’t name a culture that’s not represented here. I think that socioeconomic diversity may not be represented, and that’s an issue that exists [in medical schools] all across Canada.”

Dealing with topics such as class and money can be touchy, especially with regard to university admissions, but a growing number of people in the medical profession feel these issues can no longer be ignored. The Association of Faculties of Medicine of Canada, the Association of American Medical Colleges, and the Liaison Committee on Medical Education have all discussed the need to make medical schools more socioeconomically diverse. In March, the Canadian Federation of Medical Students lobbied Parliament to raise awareness of the need to have doctors who better reflect the population at large.

“Socioeconomic diversity matters for patients,” CFMS president Tyler Johnston says in a phone interview with the Straight. “People who are from rural and more diverse economic backgrounds tend to treat patients from their own backgrounds. If we don’t have a health work force that mirrors society, you’re going to have segments of society that are left out of care.”

In 2001, CFMS researchers found that 29.1 percent of medical students came from a household with an income greater than $120,000, while just 4.9 percent of Canadian households earned that much. As well, only 15.4 percent of medical students came from a family with a household income of less than $40,000, an income bracket that includes nearly 40 percent of the general population.

Finkler says that the lack of socioeconomic diversity occurs not because of any inherent bias on the part of UBC or other universities. Instead, he says it’s a naturally occurring phenomenon.

According to Finkler, people from wealthier backgrounds tend to receive more support from their family. They are also more likely to have family members in the medical field, making it seem like an achievable goal. Students from upper-class backgrounds may also have the financial support to pursue volunteer projects and other extracurricular activities that adjudicators look for on medical-school applications.

“The selection committee didn’t try to create this homogeneity,” Finkler explains. “It happened for predictable reasons. We want to change that and possibly approach it with new techniques.”

Those new techniques may include outreach programs that encourage students from rural and disadvantaged areas to consider a career in medicine. Finkler hopes to find current UBC medical students who are willing to visit high schools across B.C. to talk about careers in medicine. Ideally, he wants to find students from rural and/or lower-income backgrounds and have them visit schools to show students that a career in medicine can be within their reach.

He says part of his mandate is simply a form of “myth-busting”. Many young people from underrepresented groups see medical schools as unreachable ivory towers, ones that don’t value their life experience.

“You might hear someone say, ”˜I’ll never get into medicine because you have to do all this volunteering, and I have to work on my dad’s farm.’ I have to tell you those activities have value. No, they don’t sound exotic, but we value them. People just don’t believe we do.”

Not surprisingly, it partly comes down to money. The CFMS notes that across Canada, medical-school tuition has risen steadily since the 1990s, something that creates a significant barrier to entering the medical profession. Finkler hopes to work with UBC’s Student Financial Assistance and Awards office to remove financial barriers to attending medical school.

He notes that his plan to increase socioeconomic diversity is still in the very early stages, but he hopes to implement some initiatives this fall.

It could be argued that a medical student’s socioeconomic background shouldn’t matter one way or the other. After all, if you need to have your appendix taken out, you don’t care whether your surgeon is the scion of a billionaire or the offspring of a farmer so long as he or she does a good job of patching you up.

Finkler agrees that technical skill is a critical part of being a doctor, but it’s not the only part. There is a huge social aspect to medicine that’s often overlooked.

“The delivery of care is a mixture of technical skills, knowledge, communication, intelligence, and collaboration,” he says. “To do that you have to be in tune with the community, and it doesn’t hurt to have people from a broad range.”

Boosting socioeconomic diversity in medical schools can have additional benefits. For one, it can enrich the classroom experience for all medical students. “It’s good to have diversity in a class, or the group opinion might drift to a common denominator. If the common denominator comes from a certain socioeconomic strata, your opinions might shift that way.”

More importantly, increased diversity could help deal with the continuing shortage of doctors in rural areas. In 2002, an article in the Canadian Medical Association Journal noted that only 10.8 percent of first-year medical students came from rural areas, where 22.4 percent of the population resides.

“Many doctors in Canada come from upper socioeconomic groups and are primarily urban,” says Dr. John Wootton, president of the Society of Rural Physicians of Canada, by phone from Shawville, Quebec. “The conclusion that follows from that is that many of those students, not having been exposed to rural areas in their younger years, lack information to make decisions about their future practice. By default, they tend to choose to practise in cities.”

Seeking out students from poor and rural areas may help fill the gap. Both U.S. and Canadian studies have shown that growing up in a rural community is the factor most strongly associated with choosing rural practice. A 2005 report by the Society of Rural Physicians of Canada found that a medical student with rural roots is two-and-a-half times more likely to practise in a rural area upon graduation.

There are signs that this approach can work. Australian universities decided to tackle the issue of diversity in medical schools, and have made major inroads. In 1989, only 10 percent of medical students in Australia were from rural areas. A decade later, that number was roughly 25 percent, thanks in part to financial incentive programs.

Wootton says that one of the best ways to increase the number of doctors in rural areas is to increase access to education in rural areas. He cites UBC’s Northern Medical Program, carried out in conjunction with the University of Northern British Columbia in Prince George, as an example of attracting promising rural students by taking education to them. A similar program exists in partnership with the University of Victoria, and one will be launched at UBC’s Okanagan campus in Kelowna in 2011.

A common myth is that students need to complete their undergraduate studies at UBC in order to eventually make their way into that university’s faculty of medicine. Finkler wants to reassure students that this is not the case, and that they can take the necessary prerequisites at colleges and universities closer to home.

And if his outreach program inspires students from lower socioeconomic backgrounds to attend schools other than UBC, he’s fine with that. To him, the initiative is about serving the community and helping students unlock the potential in themselves.

“People should have access to be whatever their potential suggests that they could be,” he says. “We want a social project of mentoring and guiding high-school students. We want to go out and say, ”˜Look at me—this is what I’ve done, and you can do it too. And we’ll show you how.’ ”

Comments

KJ
This article reminded me of the sitcom about a Doctor who was working in a northern rural community as part of an agreement to pay for his studies in medicine. If my memory serves me, he was funded by an organization/government to study to become a physician in exchange for taking a position for a few years in that norther rural community. I didn't see a problem with that. Both parties received what they had set out to do.
 
Yeah Right
They might have more in common with Yaletown...but they won't be from there, or anywhere in BC or Canada for that matter...

The plight of prospective Canadian Postgraduate students...
 
Interesting Statistic....
That’s quite interesting that the article claims it doesn’t matter what BC university one goes to for acceptance into UBC medicine. Here is an interesting stat for you: in 2009, 130/256 (50%) of admitted students completed their undergrads at UBC (36,771 undergrads in total). 53/256 admitted medical students completed their undergrads at SFU, UVic and UNBC (combined total of 47,822 undergrads). Notice any disparity? Indeed, until the admissions committee recognizes that converting the grade point averages of non-UBC students to a percentage puts these individuals as a significant disadvantage, this disparity will continue to exist”¦. it is simply impossible to compete academically with UBC students who are given percentages on their transcripts over letter grades”¦
 
James BC
SFU, UVic and UNBC have lower admission standard to begin with. It is like saying arts students are underrepresented in medical school since they are the largest population therefore should have highest admission by pure number. UBC historically has been known for science & med program, SFU for business, UVic for law, and UNBC for envrionmental. Hard to say that they are biased when more qualified students go to UBC to begin with and therefore more applicants apply from UBC.

Second, it is true that wealthier people's kids tend to get higher education and we need to address that and seek out talented people who are disadvantaged and provide an opportunity for them to advance.

However, just because people came from wealthier family doesn't mean that don't deserve the spot as well. I know many UBC Med students, one specifically, her family afforded her to go to Stanford on top of that she also worked super hard to earn the right to represent Canada in the Olympics. (Did Daddy buy her the spot? I don't think so) That kind of work ethics should not be dismissed due to her family's wealth.
 
Kirby
Total BS. This article is a slap in the face to anyone applying to study medicine at UBC...
 
knowitall
Most docs are clueless to what happens in the real world
 
Proud Parent
My son will be going to St. Eustacius University School of Medicine this September. We are a family earning less than 100k gross per year. Because he went to UFVC and did not have a 4.0 GPA he was discouraged from applying to U.B.C. He was a community volunteer and worked as a youth athletic coach, had excellent letters of recommendation from professionals and community leaders. Now the real issue is that he will probably end up finishing his internship in the U.S. and practicing there as well. This is a brain drain that we cannot afford here in Canada. Much cheaper for the provincial government to let other countries educate young people and then import them rather than funding secondary and post secondary education properly. There is also the issue of the number of doctors in B.C. This government does not want to increase the amount of billing numbers that would allow new doctors to practice here. By the way ,a one bedroom apt. with in walking distance to the school is $500. per month. Try to find that at U.B.C. Proud Parent
 
Advocate
More discrimination disguised as "social engineering". Why not admit the students with the best prospects of becoming good doctors. Why exclude someone because he or she happens to come from a city or a wealthy family?
 
ATsquareB
James BC,
I don't think the article was suggesting that wealthier individuals deserve those spots -- it was talking about equalizing the opportunity for people living in poor and rural areas. For instance, if a person comes from a wealthy family, then he or she has the luxury to focus all of their time into their studies, traditional extracurricular activities, and anything else. Students from working class families don't have that leisure. The idea is not to discriminate against rich people, but to make the process LESS discriminatory against the poor.
 
Janine Crowley
Having successfully been through the med school application process within the last year, I have seen the tactics employed by the admissions committees firsthand.

I'd love to ask UBC's entering class to raise their hands if they've volunteered overseas... travelled overseas... taken a year off to "find themselves" after undergrad. Almost every single person I know who has gotten into UBC med has done these things. The people I know who haven't gotten in were straight A students who worked AND volunteered through college, worked full-time AND volunteered during the years while they were trying to get into med school, and still weren't good enough for UBC.

Finkler says that it doesn't matter where you do your undergraduate education, although when UBC converts grades from other BC institutions (9 pt. vs 4.3 pt. vs 4.0 pt. GPA) they do so with such bias that it is essentially impossible to end up with a competitive GPA from non-UBC universities.

Of all of the schools I applied to/interview at, UBC was the least transparent and, if anything, favoured "rich-kids" even more than the rest. So, Dr. Finkler, before you attempt to "make UBC the first university in Canada" to close this socioeconomic gap, why not try catching up with the rest of Canadian medical schools.

P.S. I'm a BC resident who was accepted to UBC and declined my offer to attend UofT
 
1234
Mr. James...it sounds like you should be on the admissions committee given your expertise in UBC's process. I'm sure they really missed you at UBC...lucky for UofT.
 
Mr. Poor
These ideas sound great in theory, but I'm curious how this will play out in real life. I'm worried that the admissions committee is equating rural with "less-affluent". Wealthy people are in rural areas too, and I can easily see the medical class still containing a bunch of wealthy people with rural postal codes.
 
How will it get implemented?
While the purpose of greater equality is noble, it's uncertain as to how the medical school will use family wealth to determine admissions.

Medical schools' emphasis on voluntarism favours the rich. How can the poor afford to volunteer when they need to work part-time at mundane places (fast-food restaurants and retailers)? However, if medical schools decide to rate volunteer activities (at hospitals or nursing homes) the same as part-time work, then why would anyone volunteer? If I can get $10/hour and still get the same chances of admissions as someone volunteering at a hospital, then why would I pass on the money?

Yet, how would it be fair for medical schools to say, the poor will be admitted while having only work experience while the rich must have more volunteering experience?

In general, the rich will always be favoured. They have more money to pay for SAT/GRE/MCAT lessons. They can afford to not work when they have a heavy course load. Their parents might have connections to prestigious internships. They might be able to afford to travel around the world. Medical schools want people with lots of experience. Yet, how can a student who can barely pay tuition be expected to have lived on Paris?

My concern with these types of articles is that they rarely address the root of the problem. Rather than finding ways to favour the poor or give different criteria based on wealth, we should try to find a solution to the question: how can we make more people rich?
 
knowitall
the root of the problem is finding providers who can be address what is best for the patient now and down the road.

So obviously more Nurse Practitioners and Physician assistants are needed
 
Thank god
Thank god this issue has been raised. I am in UBC Medicine class of 2012 and grew up in a thoroughly middle class household in rural BC. With obvious exceptions my medschool class is filled with yuppie rich kids. The worse part is the attitudes toward rural medicine. It is thought of like it is some cute novelty not something is desperately needed. The last post brought up a great point in that we need to get to the root of the problem. I believe the root of the problem is the arrogance and entitlement that exists in the medical community. It is supposed to be a privilege to serve your patients and that seems to be lost now. Anything that can be done to bring more socio-economic diverstiy to medical school and therefore to BC Healthcare is MUCH needed.
 
Really?
Dear Thank-God

I don't know if it is fair to call the entire 2012 class at UBC full of rich yuppies, in fact I am certain it is not considering I am one of your classmates. I think before you generalize our class, please take a look at the facts.

Many thanks
-a "rich yuppie" (apparently)
 
Jesse
At @Really?:
Just because a few people from lower SES backgrounds made it in does not discount that most are from the upper end of the spectrum. My experience is that there is an overabundance of privileged people with privileged attitudes in UBC med. You might be an exception, but judging from the attitude of your last post, I doubt it.

Finkler says that other non-academic activities are counted. Well, I have been rejected three times in a row, with interviews, and they have only ever contacted the volunteer opportunities you would expect (i.e. St. John Ambulance, clinic). Finkler may say they value work experience, but they have never contacted any of my employers in three years.

Holding information session in poor high schools will do nothing. It's not a problem of people not wanting to go to medical school, it's a problem of medical school being genuinely out of reach for us lowly commoners.

Regards,
Jesse
 
applications
I am applying to medical schools this year but would not be able to without some help from my parents - the fees add up very quickly. I would think that many of the medical students including well off families cannot afford to pay for medical school upfront and have student loan(s) of some sort in order to attend. But how many people would want to take out loans to pay the application fees? I believe UBC is $105 and Ontario you must pay $210 to use their application fee and then $75 for every school. People often want to apply to more than one school and it adds up to $500+ to apply to 3-4 schools. Are schools willing to lower or get rid of these fees to allow anyone who meets the pre-reqs apply? I'm guessing no.
 
expensive
I was accepted to medical school coming from an urban family but still could not afford school. Medical school is EXPENSIVE. Getting into medical school was expensive - MCAT prep, courses, extra-curricular activities, application fees, travel costs to interview, etc, etc.

I would have done anything to get a school loan. If a rural community offered to pay my tuition for 5-10 years of service I would have in a second. I even looked at joining the navy or army to find a source of funds. I contacted the BCSL/Canada Student Loan offices for assistance and they informed me that it doesnt matter what the level of education everyone receives the same funding. ie. a first year student that is probably not even attending class receives the same financial support as a med student?? wtf?
 
WaitForIt
Oh pullease, give me a break. Policy created by politically correct people that have not got a clue.

I grew up in an poverished environment, first in my extended family to finish highschool, let alone go to college (I eventually got an PhD and am a professor at UBC).

Are there socio-economic differences? Sure. But anyone who makes it into med school and can afford it is no longer representative of the original environment from which they came. So what really is the point?

 
Broke
As an undergraduate student working part-time from a middle class background I can barely afford my current tuition and living expenses, how am I supposed to afford medical school and eat? I think the real issue is that tuition costs need to be lowered overall in graduate and undergraduate degrees because its not just the lowest socioeconomic class having troubles affording tuition.
 
James G
I'm disappointed with the Canadian medical training program in general. Why the huge barriers between provinces? During the depression there was a retalliatory plague of protectionism between countries. Because of the economic pressures, countries chose to increase barriers to trade, thinking this would help buoy up the domestic economy. Guess what happened? The world spun further and faster into depression. A whole generation suffered. Something similar is happening right now with Canadian med schools, only on a provincial level. For example, a resident of Saskatchewan living in BC or Ontario has close to no chance of being accepted to any school in either BC or ON. The truth is, each school favours residents of its own province. Some people say things like, "Well, yes. This makes sense. These schools want to retain their graduates, and they have the best chance of doing that by admitting students who are already residents." Well, this is a short-sighted viewpoint. This attitude of protectionism has major consequences. It all comes down to competition. There are bucket loads of overqualified students being rejected from BC and Ontario schools every year, who would easily be accepted at a school in another province if they were residents of that province. At the same time, there are dozens of underqualified students being admitted to the less competitive schools, who would never stand a chance at any of the other schools in Canada (even if they were residents of the other province). Comparatively, let's say all the Canadian schools pulled down these barriers to matriculation, accepting only the most qualified (regardless of background or residency). What would happen? Well, for starters, these less competitive schools would become more competitive. The standard of doctors graduating with an md degree would increase. Academic mobility increases. Canada loses less potential doctors to the US (because the students who were not accepted in Canada are less competitive in general, making it more difficult to be accepted at a US med school). This type of system would ensure that those med school hopefulls who are most qualified (often the hardest working and the most qualified) are the ones in the seats of Canadian med schools. That sounds like equity to me.
 
Ana
I would like to add that there are lots of immigrants with high education or with previous medical background whose social context and economical background do not allow them to do med school here that easily. How can you volunteer if you have to work to survive, and how do you expect people from other cultures to have previous volunteering when they also where surviving in their own countries. Furthermore, people in other countries, particularly in group societies did volunteering work but there is no diplomas to a "human" action as it happens here. There are lots of local/school policies that also have to change. One of them is the lack of recognition of foreign credentials. At the end who pay the cost of unavailability or poor competence of some doctors is the society.
 
Sarah84
I agree with the comment that the proposal is idealistic, but disagree that once you enter medical school you are no longer part of the population you began in.
I was only accepted this year after four attempts and nearly bankrupting what little finances began with.
I come from the "working poor" class and used the experience with hard work to my advantage.
It did take four times to have the education, part-time employment, hospital experience, research experience, volunteer experience and extra-cirriculars needed to enter the school (and even then I do not think they mattered much as there was little difference between my third and fourth attempts.
What I ahve noticed is that people in my school are unintentionally entitled and cannot comprehend some of the social problems mentioned in our courses.
This actually puts me at an advantage as I can relate to the situations (mostly experiencing them first-hand) and I have not/never will forget these hardships.
In fact, I was actually naive to think that many of my class were like myself until these discussions occured.

Do I think by encouraging more high school students to be interested in medicine will help? No, I and many of my class mates were always interested in medicine.
Admissions do need to lower cost of applications, and to weigh part-time work as valuable as volunteering.
Will this cause people to work part-time as opposed to volunteer? Maybe, but this should actually weed out people who volunteer for the sole purpose of applying to medical school. It isn't fair to the programs the volunteers are serving to do so with an alterior purpose. Once you enter medical school, many people continue to volunteer out of free will, and those are the people who should do it in the first place.

Is it impossible to volunteer and have a part-time job while attending university, no and I can attest to that. It is exceptionally difficult, and in the end it doesn't matter that much to admissions, therefore I do not wish that stress on anyone. It is not fair for those who have to do it to pay for school, when others can use their free time however they please.

Perhaps focusing more on situational experiences in the interview, essay, and supplemental work together would diversify the medical population.

Until then there will always be those who must struggle to get in, and those that have to struggle to understand once they're in.
 
reality check
I would hope future doctors were selected on their grasp of medical knowledge.
 
You
As long as UBC maintains its bias favouring UBC students, these discrepancies will remain. The idea that being from one school or another makes you significantly more qualified than another individual is complete BS. All major universities are pretty much the same and in the long run the quality of education really comes down to the student, not the prof. If where you came from was supposed to be that important, there would be no purpose to the MCATs.
 
Larry M
It always was the rich kids who got into medicine, in fact when I was at UBC in the early 70's I believe you actually got extra credits if your dad was a doctor. One of the problems I see is not only a financially-tipped admissions system, but we are also going to soon have very few English as a first language new doctors. Some people with lower grades would actually make better doctors, but there is no way that they will deal with this problem as it is rampant through the whole admissions system at UBC, not just medicine.
 
Sheeple
I think both the article and the Doctor propose a BAND AID...

When more aggressive LIFE SAVING treatment is required...

You want poor qualified MD's?

Get the College of Medicine (LEGISLATE IT) to CERTIFY QUALIFIED FOREIGN DOCTORS. There are lots in BC working as Line Cooks, Cab Drivers and High School Tutors.

That sure BEATS THE NANNY / CITIZENSHIP PROGRAM IN CANADA!!!!!

Yes if you come to CANADA AS A NANNY YOU QUALIFY FOR CANADIAN CITIZENSHIP EVENTUALLY!

UBC is the most ELITE (IST) University in BC accepting ROUTE learning Top Grade ONLY students.

When my life is on the line I want a Doctor that can THINK on their Feet not some Book Worm who MEMORIZED EVERY SENTENCE!!!!!

I DISAGREE that the UBC Med Program is Racially Diverse, what are the numbers?

What PERCENTAGE by Race (since you Doc made the Race Diversity Claim).

DATA Please NOT OPINIONS.
 
 
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