The 16 year old that took pictures needs to be in jail now. That is a crime
weather the girl was raped or not!

It's someone like Smith that reinforces why I hate people.
Miguel

I've hung out with some of the toughest dudes, and baddest of the bad boys anyone could imagine - and none of them would be ever be involved in something like this.

Of that, there is no doubt.

"“In my opinion, she wasn’t raped,” Smith said." Spoken like a true product of all that's wrong with society today. Like maybe she like really knows like the guys and like they are real like cool you know and like they didnt do this like it was her like she's such a you know......

I dont think I could be more horrified about this; the idea that despite witnesses that do corroborate her story, and physical evidence, people still disbelieve this girl is absurd. Teenagers and mob mentality- good luck protecting your own, and when it happens again- which it will if the guys you're protecting get away it -I hope your not the one found in a compromised position, never suspecting that your so called friend would ever do that to you. The fact that the majority of these naysayers are women, also horrifies me. I suggest to anyone reading this to go to the support page, send some positivity to this girl. And to the teenagers who are enjoying a) the attention they are getting by saying this girl wasn't raped b) enjoying victimizing her even more, read up on the realities of rape, the bystander effect, victim blame, and then take a really long look in the mirror. If you can still stomach looking at yourself, then something is seriously wrong with you.
P.S if you are an eyewitness, and were at the rave, and have any courage at all to stand up and say something about what happened, contact police. Dont be part of the mob.

No woman who has been given GHB could consent- what does that say about the character of the young males that participated in this. "nice' isn;t a word that I use- not saying much about their upbringing either. If they have to incapacitate someone in order to ....... there is nothing more to say(losers)

“No woman who has been drinking is able to give consent,” Kler said. “That’s it. The whole discussion of whether or not she willfully took the GHB is completely moot. It doesn’t matter.”

- that means any time a male and female are drinking together then willing engage in a sexual act; the male is a rapist no matter what because no woman is able to give consent while drinking?

What is the definition of consent? Its basically an issue of capacity- diminished capacity in this case. Was she drunk? Yes, and was she drunk, (or drugged, voluntarily or otherwise) so much so that she could not have the capacity to have made that decision. The answer, as police are arguing but unfortunately can not discuss with evidence because of an ongoing investigation is YES. These are criminal investigators that are examining this case with a fine tooth comb. There is a chemical level from which a human being can not have the capacity to make safe, coherent, judgments. Lets not get caught up in fallacies.
Moreover, there is her age; shes 16, technically the age of consent, but again, there are stipulations on that consent and how it is defined.
The images also complicate this because the act by its recording, of a minor, regardless of her being the age of consent, has made the act illegal (both because it was filmed, and because, as Im sure evidence will dictate soon, it was not consensual).
John Smith- I understand that you want to make a case for consent as you deem it, but the law has certain stipulations for consent, and as such, as the fact show, diminished capacity to make such judgments due to the chemical influence of a significant quantity is the basis for a lack of consent in this situation.
On a more personal note, though I havent seen the actual footage of the case, I can imagine that police have reviewed the footage, and stills, and can note from them the level of capacity of this girl. Seeing how incredibly appalled, and adamant they are about her truthfulness, and the high profile of this case, I dont think they would broadcast videos on CTV, or statements that might be proven premature at a later date.

@ Bellanouva: "the idea that despite witnesses that do corroborate her story, and physical evidence, people still disbelieve this girl is absurd"....I didn't realize there were any witnesses that corroborated. Please include a link as I have only read and of those that don't; and as far as physical evidence, the police have stated they haven't even received the toxicology report (btw, good luck finding traces of GHB 7 days after the fact) It's incredible irresponsible for the police and media to be making these public pronouncements at such an early stage of an investigation especially when there are conflicting accounts of what happened. This mass pile on is almost as despicable as a gang rape...there's a reason we say the accused are presumed innocent until proven guilty. Let's act as though it were true and wait until ALL the facts are known before potentially destroying peoples' lives.

Part of the reason why the "Reasonable Doubt" group was created was to discuss alternative views of what may have happened at this rave because when it was done on the support group, members were accused of condoning rape, called sick, perverted, etc. and threatened with violence and other attacks.

I've been mentioning the book, "To Kill a Mockingbird" by Harper Lee in this case. Like the townspeople in the book, everyone seems to want to lynch and attack the accused as well as those whom try to defend them before they are given due process and a chance to defend themselves.