Pondering our existence

Maybe the truth is something like this... God is not large and more complex than us but instead simple tiny and all powerful existing as hard set laws that matter and energy must abide by. The simple physics of of our universe. Gravity, the spin of atoms, energy and light. All of these simple truths that allow for existence. Energy and matter adhering to set laws that exist in the fabric of time and space. That is God.

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nope

Feb 24, 2015 at 6:25pm

God is no more real then santa clause. Religion is total poison, and every faith (even Buddhists) leads to violence.

Religion is for the simple minded and dim witted.

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Close to my Philosophy

Feb 24, 2015 at 6:48pm

And its a better approach then science vs religion which just results in bashing and disaster.

Religion: Tries to explain the unknown. Coincidentally every group up people, through time, has developed their own gods to believe in despite being separated from communication 1000's of years ago. Seems to be a natural almost evolutionary ideology. How else do ancient cultures explain volcanoes, earthquakes and rare events out of their control?

Science: more modern but tries to explain the unknown

At the end of the day science and religion are simply words. Both of which are trying to explain the unknown. They are probably more alike then they realize and just how you explained in your post.

I also believe they are essentially the same thing its just unfortunate so many rules, and misinterpretations which have created out of religion.

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@Close to my Philosophy

Feb 24, 2015 at 7:48pm

One big difference between religion and science is that the former relies on supernatural explanations and the latter rules them out.

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Highly recommend a

Feb 24, 2015 at 8:09pm

book called A New Earth, by E. Tolle. This might be interesting to the OP.

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The Baby Jesus

Feb 24, 2015 at 8:24pm

@Close

Uh... what?

No, they're not just words. Those words have meaning and the content of that meaning is what separates them. Science is a method. It is the single most successful method our species has ever developed for discovering the truth.

Religion is a belief system. One that, despite having thousands of years - often dominating all of whatever society it found itself in, has revealed exactly NOTHING about the universe, our planet or the natural world save for precisely how easily fooled we are. Religious dogma has contributed nothing we cannot get from any other sort of belief system, whether it is a philosophy, an ideology or any other example of putting the intellectual cart before the horse.

They are NOT the same. In just a few hundred years, the scientific method has brought humanity the capacity to photograph the edge of the known universe and allowed us to look back in time thirteen and a half billion years. It has wiped out diseases that ravaged our species for ages and produced a global communications system with access we can carry in our pockets.

What did religion give us? Did it cure any diseases? Has it allowed us to peer into the structure of cells? No. What it did give us is a god that cares whether or not you clip the skin off your child's penis and a god that demands the death of consenting adults for loving the wrong person, to name just a couple of the deeply immoral beliefs produced by religion.

Religion and science the same? The very idea is so absurd, it's nauseating that ANYONE might believe it.

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Wow

Feb 24, 2015 at 8:39pm

So we're just impersonal forces, the whole universe is a gigantic clock that sometimes poops out of my asshole? Sounds fantastic.

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@nope

Feb 24, 2015 at 9:25pm

I love you.

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Natty

Feb 24, 2015 at 9:47pm

It isn't April yet, but something tells me we have a couple of 4/20 proponents here...

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Closer to my philosophy, 2

Feb 24, 2015 at 11:04pm

1. I am a scientist

Yes, I know that there are many scientists and non-scientists who show no disregard for others beliefs and who ignorantly bash others religions, all while they ride on the horse called 'science' even when they do not even science, bro.

If you were in the world of science, you would know how much science still cannot prove or does not know. its very ignorant, and small minded, for you, or a scientist to claim that they can 'prove' god doesn't exist. Didn't Einstein believe in god? Are you calling him a supernatural believing wacko?

Science is always working to discover answers to the unknown and we keep finding more unknown.
What came before the black hole? What Came before that? Who set this all in motion? We are not even close to answering all these questions.

So please don't tell me what science does and does not do.

Are there people who take religion to far? 100%.
Are there people who find comfort and strength in the wisdom that spirituality/religion has offer. Do you really think they should be denied that? No

As a scientist, I condemn when non-scientists use science as an argument against the people who want to believe in a god; And , there is no way any of you any of you can disprove there existence, which means there is always a possibility.

Find me the evidence which follows proper scientific method that a god does or does not exist. Can't? Then stfu and let people believe what they want to believe.

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The Baby Jesus

Feb 25, 2015 at 7:05am

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You ask:

"What came before the black hole? What Came before that? Who set this all in motion? We are not even close to answering all these questions."

First: You're NOT a scientist. Scientists have no more authority than anyone else, in any other occupation, to condemn anyone - on moral grounds or otherwise. There is only evidence and argumentation. And your arguments are abysmal.

Second: If you had any sort of significant general education, you'd know the the answers to those questions. In fact, a quick Google search will give the answers to the first two and the third, "who set it all in motion" is an irrational question. You cannot ask who without first finding evidence of agency. And there is none. You'd know these things if, again, you had any sort of higher education.

Third: What? Are you serious? Did you really just demand we prove a negative? Oh, ffs.

Finally: There is no evidence for a god. Just as there is no evidence for Russell's Tea Pot (Google it). You are absolutely free to believe whatever you want but without evidence, it is right and fair that you be mocked for it.

Honestly, I'm inclined to call Poe here... the alternative... well, your reasoning is so poor, it would actually be a little worrying that you'd been set loose upon the world without some sort of supervision. We can only hope your silliness is intentional.

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