Do B.C. teachers really need 15 days of sick leave per year that accumulate without a maximum?

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      The B.C. Teachers' Federation has many legitimate gripes with the B.C. Liberal government.

      That's pretty clear when a B.C. Supreme Court judge weighs the evidence and concludes that the Christy Clark–led government wanted to provoke a strike.

      It was also inexcusable for the former Gordon Campbell government—with Clark as education minister—to rip up an existing contract giving the union the right to negotiate class size and composition. That violated teachers' charter right to freedom of association.

      As Protect Public Education Now has pointed out, shredding the contract led to a sharp increase in the number of children with special needs in classrooms.

      The BCTF also scores a bull's-eye when it condemns the province for having the second worst per student funding in Canada.

      But there's one aspect of teachers' contracts that taxpayers have good reason to question. And that's the sick-leave provisions.

      As things stand now, teachers in the Vancouver school system are eligible for 1.5 days of sick leave per month.

      In a 10-month school year, this means 15 sick days, which accumulate year after year without any maximum if the teacher doesn't use them.

      It's a ridiculous provision that only reinforces inaccurate perceptions that teachers have it easy at work.

      Good, committed teachers don't call in sick 150 days per decade unless they're suffering from a very serious chronic disease.

      If the BCTF wants to generate some public goodwill, it should offer to give up some of the sick days or, at the very least, agree to a maximum accumulated sick days.

      This way, boards of education won't have to spend as much money hiring substitutes for any malingerers who take more days off than they need.

      I have a hunch that the best teachers in the public-school system wouldn't have a problem with that.

      It might also free up a bit of money for boards of education to provide more services to students.


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      Aug 21, 2014 at 2:31pm

      They probably need all those sick days considering these large class sizes and the amount of people who don't think twice before sending their children to school when they're sick.


      Aug 21, 2014 at 2:32pm

      Are you aware that teachers DO NOT get anything at the end of their career for the sick days they have accumulated? I currently have 345 sick days but will receive nothing for them, not even a dollar a day. I would suggest you spend a week with 30 nine year olds during cold and flu season and see if 1.5 sick days per month is truly unreasonable!!

      Teachers on Call

      Aug 21, 2014 at 2:35pm

      Something worth considering is that Teachers on Call make their living by these sick days. Limiting the sick days would have a huge effect on subs, who are already struggling for work in this overcrowded city. I know people who have been subbing for years, and can barely make rent some months.

      Charlie Smith

      Aug 21, 2014 at 2:40pm

      The Teachers on Call issue could be ameliorated if boards hired more younger teachers and fewer retirees as substitutes. The retirees are often already collecting a pension and are just topping up their incomes. They also entered the housing market when it was more affordable to buy. But the BCTF's contract language in its proposal states: "The employer shall first offer on-call assignments to teachers teaching on call...who have the greatest seniority" Furthermore, on-call seniority is determined from the length of service from the date of hire to the district. This would ensure younger teachers on call won't receive as much work.


      Aug 21, 2014 at 3:38pm

      Don't ask people about someone else's working conditions, they'll all think the work is easy, the teachers overpaid, that they make more than the respondent.... What does the public care what Isfe in my profession. People want subsidies, from everybody, and having cheap labour and cheap benefits suits tax payers fine. But it's not money, it's that they are in the community and an easy target. 38 billion, yes billion, was the total governments subsidies to big oil., but you won't find anyone bitching about teachers complaint about that. It's all manipulated by the government to make teachers looks greedy.


      Aug 21, 2014 at 4:03pm

      The claim that "Good, committed teachers don't call in sick 150 days per decade unless they're suffering from a very serious chronic disease." twists the 1.5 sick days per month quoted in this article into a number that is easier to accuse of being inappropriately large and ripe for abuse by teachers.

      150 days sounds like a lot. A decade sounds like a little. 10 years is a long time. 1.5 sick days per month is nothing. It's ONE DAY. One day per month where a teacher can wake up sick and not feel forced to teach your children while sick. So your children can come home and make you sick. So you can blame that teacher for not calling in sick, making your kid sick, and impacting your income having to take YOUR sick day. If you have one.

      15 sick days per 10-month school year (using this article's numbers) is a fair. One day per month is fair. Two days in a month after a teacher has stockpiled last month's sick day is fair. Hell, if a teacher has worked for 9 years without taking a sick day, and then requires the use of one hundred and fifty sick days, that's not a vacation, that's needed time for a presumed serious illness. That time off to recover from an illness would be deserved.

      Any implication that sick days "left unchecked" are there to be abused by teachers is generalizing, fear-mongering, and disrespectful.

      Charlie Smith

      Aug 21, 2014 at 4:13pm


      How many people seriously take 15 days of sick leave over 10 months?

      I suspected that with all of the caveats I mentioned at the outset of the article, several commenters would still say no: teachers need their 15 days of sick leave over 10 months. It's one of many reasons why we're in the midst of this mess.

      I've been lucky with my health, which is why I haven't taken 15 days sick leave in my 20 years at the Georgia Straight. I can't fathom the notion of me taking 300 sick days off over that period and the cost that would have imposed on my employer.

      Charlie Smith


      Aug 21, 2014 at 4:41pm


      Hyperbole. We both cannot claim to verify the number of people who utilize 15 days of sick leave over a 10-month period, although an actual study of the usage among BC teachers would probably shut down this conversation right quick one way or the other.

      Using your given example working at the Georgia Straight, firstly, thank heavens for your health. No sarcasm whatsoever, I genuinely would never wish ill health on anyone.

      I can only guess that if you did have a stockpile of 300 sick days via the Georgia Straight, should you theoretically fall so ill that you would require such a long recovery, that your employer would rather you were recovering well instead of leaving you stressed and in need.

      Again, only guesswork here, but I would give pause to the notion that people become teachers on the promise of accumulating 300 sick days over the course of 20 years.

      If a teacher gets hit with a communicable disease, I want them home resting, not teaching children, and I want them to feel secure knowing that they don't have to weigh my child's health vs. their income when choosing to stay home.

      cranky mom

      Aug 21, 2014 at 4:42pm

      15 days sick leave is the equivalent of 3 weeks. It is over 9 months because there are 2 - two week breaks within the school year. Christmas and March break.

      It is not a sustainable business model.

      Sick Leave

      Aug 21, 2014 at 5:21pm

      Sick leave doesn't 'belong' to the teacher. It belongs to the employer to give to the employee if they need it, up to a certain number of days per hear. So quit your whining that you don't get credit for unused time when you retire. The days don't belong to you! To prevent colds and flu, put down your doughnuts and chocolate, get on a treadmill, quit smoking, and quit whining. Optimistic people live longer. And if someone is genuinely ill, then they should get all the time they need, and all the best to them. Not the greedy entitled ones.