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Vancouver hockey riot is a symptom of a larger problem

What compels people to tip over cars and light them on fire? Maybe it's because our society is desperately ill.

Stephen Thomson
By Adrian Mack and Miranda Nelson,

We've heard a lot of reasons (excuses?) batted around as to why last night's post-Cup riot happened. A very outraged man on the radio this morning blamed the whole thing on faulty parenting. Others look at the idiocy of city politicians for inviting 100,000 people into the downtown core, TransLink for ramping up service to a peninsula with limited escape routes, and the provincial order to close downtown liquor stores at 4 p.m., ensuring that those in attendance would be drunk before they even arrived. You can also look to the mainstream media for hyping up this series to unheard-of proportions and constantly reminding the populace of the infamous 1994 Stanley Cup riots.

But maybe what we have is just a sick fucking culture. Maybe as a society, we've simply become borderline psychotic. You only need to ride a bus to see what an angry group of people we’ve become. We're rude, we're snotty, we don't talk or engage with each other. We've created the stupidest generation: a barely literate group of narcissists who don't know how to take care of themselves, but are like military-trained experts when it comes to tagging themselves in Facebook photos.

From all reports, there was a small group of young hooligans determined to riot and smash 'n' grab no matter what the outcome of the game was. Several sites have been set up to post pictures, Facebook screencaps, and video of morons proudly declaring their involvement in the violence. Should we be surprised? And doesn’t it seem a little obvious that there was never going to be a good outcome, regardless of who won? At 4:30 p.m. the streets of the downtown core were already simmering with the dangerous and hair-trigger emotions of the mob, and all that emotion—good or bad—was going to be purged, somewhere, somehow. In the weeks leading up to the final, the magnitude of our bizarre, tribal attachment to a hockey team became more and more clear. And it exceeds far beyond a natural and healthy spirit of competitiveness or an appreciation of the beauty of the game itself. It’s pathological. It’s monstrously unhealthy. And it speaks to a monumental emptiness at the heart of our culture.

So, why are there so many hungry souls out there, ready and willing to bring chaos down on the so-called most livable city on the planet? In reality, matters have only gotten much worse politically and economically since 1994, and Generation Y has been delivered into a beyond-callous world facing a perfect storm of crises. They know it. What does the future look like for the average 20 year old? It's a depressing, empty place where they can't get decent-paying (let alone secure) jobs or ever have a hope of owning property. Can you imagine how much more fearful and angry they would be if they fully comprehended the seriousness of peak oil?

And yet despite the terminal condition of a socio-economic superstructure hurtling towards the edge of a cliff while wondering if it even has enough gas to get there, the market rolls on, plundering the public coffers and starving the arts and education, producing a society that is spiritually malnourished but not sensitive enough to ask why. Meanwhile, we have dissonant messages relentlessly beamed into our heads: wealth is good, the poor have nobody but themselves to blame, personal devices make you happy, war is peace, “Save money, live better”, Don Cherry deserves your attention and respect, and have some pride in your Canucks. Because what the fuck else have you got going for you?

The market practices institutional violence on every single one of us, every day, just by virtue of existing. It's not the game of hockey that's the problem; it's the capitalistic appropriation of our national pastime. It's the myriad of advertisers trotting out the "I am Canadian!" sentiments in order to sell products. It's the message we are force-fed that if we don’t pay attention to the spectacle, we are somehow disenfranching ourselves. That's the way advertising has always worked: make people insecure about a fictional problem, and then sell them the fix.

This isn’t to excuse the rioters, and we should remember and praise those who were there, and who resisted, and who did the right thing. There's a powerful clip on YouTube right now of two men—one in a Canucks jersey, one not—trying to prevent assholes from smashing out the windows of the Bay downtown. They have some initial success, but then the non-jerseyed man pushes a rioter back and gets beaten for his efforts.

But we can’t just blame a few “bad apples.” This riot didn't happen on its own. Society as a whole ensured that it was the only outcome, starting with the assumption that our over-amped if not war-like passion for something as inconsequential as a hockey game is appropriate to begin with, let alone officially sanctioned. But hey, it’s a fucking goldmine for advertisers and a hell of a vacuum to suck in a growing population of bored, distracted, disassociated, and quietly despairing Lower Mainlanders marinated in the hegemony of cheap sensation, and governed by institutions hostile to art, truth, and beauty. It’s a problem that, as always, starts at the very top.

The wrong questions will inevitably get asked in the wake of all this, and the wrong solutions applied. Expect “tougher policing”, and a ramped up culture of intolerance in a city that already turns a blind-eye to a tsunami of social ills. The VPD—which was quick to blame the violence on "criminals, anarchists, and thugs"—is encouraging anyone with high-resolution pictures to email them to the department, but is that really what we want to become? Yes, last night's violence was inexcusable and the offenders should be prosecuted, but the slope towards becoming a Big Brother-like society where we tattle on our neighbours is already slippery enough. Wouldn't it be preferable to live in a society in which we actually knew our neighbours to begin with? To know and trust the people around us to act like responsible individuals? To enjoy a culture of mutual respect rather than suspicion, hyper-competition, and meaningless interaction mediated through our phones and iPads? All we're doing right now is gawking at city-sanctioned spectacles—or plugging in our headphones so we can ignore each other.

There was a beautiful outpouring of love and support for our fair city this morning as hundreds of volunteers took to the streets to help clean up the terrible mess from last night. We do have the capacity to be kind, gentle, thoughtful individuals, and, hopefully, we can begin to repair the damage to our tarnished reputation. Unfortunately, there's no simple band-aid solution that will fix a sick society. The symptoms are clearly manifesting but, without facing up to the fact that there is an overarching problem, there is absolutely no chance for us to heal. But perhaps the first step towards solving this systemic problem is to acknowledge the fact that there is actually something wrong with us.


You can follow Miranda Nelson on Twitter at @charenton_. Adrian Mack is too cool for Twitter but you can read his extensive archive of articles here.


Comments

JamieLee
This is pretty amazing commentary. Thank You Miranda and Adrian!
 
michisle
Thank-you, thank-you, thank-you for slicing through the collective denial and starting the dialogue. It needs to be had. There are many who need to show the world that this was some minor incident of no consequence. We can't let them steer the conversation. As citizens we need to understand better what is happening with our youth.
 
Darryl Wright
Regarding your whole second paragraph - wow... really? Thanks for that in-depth anthropological analysis, my friend, but I think it would be a gross understatement to say you're writing off a whole generation of people due to this ultimately very predictable incident. As it happens we agree that city transit is a great fishbowl for the lowest common denominator but I'd guess that there's a thousand reasons for that none of which have to do with "we" being "fucked up" - not the least of which is the affordability and accessibility of transit to a wide range of socio-economic demographics.

Though it's tempting to buy into the idea that we're some lost generation, surely you realize that every generation before us has had similar sentiments at similar times and around similar dark moments.

My father always said he hated hip hop and it 'wasn't music'. And 'kids didn't appreciate music anymore'. I love it and I get it and yet I find myself looking at kids today listening to Lil' Wayne and shaking my head and saying, "this isn't hip hop", "kids don't appreciate hip hop anymore." etc.

My point being, we're no more sick than we have ever been. As a matter of fact, I'd argue that we're less sick than we've ever been before. We're also the generation that invented TED Talks, Social Media, and most recently brought down entire regimes through organized dissent.

"we don't talk or engage with each other"

That's laughable. We talk and engage more than we ever have before - it just looks a lot different.

"We've created the stupidest generation:"

Granted, there's some monumental idiots out there jumping on cars... but damn, there's also those who stayed home last night and didn't shop up to the game because they were working on their thesis. Don't write them off too.

Seriously man... try optimism - it's intoxicating.
 
adam g.
i totally agree. well said. although i think the speculation of peak oil was created for a reason of which i do not know. great commentary though.
 
Kim Glennie
The problem is that we are not building an engaged, intelligent citizenry capable of critical thinking. We are moving more towards a mob mentality in our society, and unfortunately professional team sports and the (lack of) dialogue surrounding it is a contributing factor. It's symptomatic of a larger problem in our hyper-consumeristc world where entertainment is as loud and vacuous as possible.
I love sports (I'm still snowboarding in June), and have played team sports, but I don't tend to follow teams or watch much tv (I work in animation so I 'd rather not spend my spare time in front of a screen). When I say I don't really follow hockey, a common response is 'f*ck you'. No dialogue, straight to open hostility.
What if I gave that response to people who didn't like art, or literature, or good music? Well, actually”¦ to the people who didn't show up for Grant Hart (Husker Du) last night”¦ ;)
 
RyanS
TED talks? lol..
 
Alex T.
Are you seriously claiming that Western culture is "sicker" now than it was in the past? Our history includes the Crusades, the Holocaust, the Armenian Genocide, the Spanish Inquisition, the Trail of Tears, slavery, lynch mobs, pogroms, child labor — and you're picking the early 21st century as the period when everything went down the tubes? Sure, we've got a lot of problems, but have a little perspective!
 
Big Bro
Anyone who saw images of the rioters will notice that the vast majority of the throng were recording the event on a device of some sort as if it were a TV show, a spectacle for their entertainment. The spectators themselves made a huge contribution to the persistence of the rioters, providing them an audience to perform for in a sick attempt at achieving some kind of "fame". The technology itself is not an excuse for this behavior, but makes this generation feel insulated from the reality of the situation.
 
Darren T
"The VPD—which was quick to blame the violence on "criminals, anarchists, and thugs"—is encouraging anyone with high-resolution pictures to email them to the department, but is that really what we want to become?"

Yes, we do. We want to be a society where people take some responsibility, where we don't turn a blind eye to rampant vandalism and violence, where we don't pretend we didn't see anything.
 
Canuck Fan
Wow, okay then, if the first step is to acknowledge that there is something wrong with us, what is the second step? Do you really expect the people who initiated the mayhem to then go back home and contemplate their actions, or do you believe that the rest of the people that then joined in the mob mentality and posed in front of the bonfires are the ones to blame? Maybe that's not the ticket either and you think that the people sitting in front of their screens at home are the ones that have to face up to the facts.

So what are we all to do then? Should we not try and find the people that initiated or participated in this riot?

I find this article to be laughable and completely impractical.

 
Your an idiot
Wow dude you have totally over anylized te situation and have now said that our "y" generation is a lost culture? That is the biggest bunch of negitive bullshit I have ever had the displeasure of readin and you are so caught up in you own bullshit that you will live the rest of your life in shame and fear. No thanks I know what the world is about and so does every one else. A little riot is not the end of the world (not saying it was a good thing) but I'm sure all generations had their problems. Jesus Christ in the 70 French Canadian terriorists seized Canadian parlment and threatened to kill mps if Quebec didn't seperate. And you say we are the fucked up generation? Do you fucking home work buddy. If you look back in time the gnerations before us were just as bad and even worse. Ressisions have happend neorealism and we climb out of them. This is not the first time the world has sceen a ressession ( 30s post world war two, 80,s are a few off the top of my head) and we all manage to pick up again and work thing out. By the way wasn't this a hockey game riot we were talkin about? I balme your parents for fucking too much in the 60s, doing too much acid and tainting the human DNA streem and causing HIV and aids. And you say are generation is fucked up? Yea right. Your society would be a one where ever one sits around and what? I don't really k ow where you were going with this. We all know that people are stupid and violent. Bit looking at history i'd say we have deffinatly gotten at least a little better then the Lost cause you claim society to be in. Take your negitivity and shove it up your ass. It's thinking like that that makes the world fucke up.
 
Larry Manetti
WAAAAAAAAA. . . . I hate my dad.

Let's face it. The vast number of human beings are dumb and always have been.
 
Mike Puttonen
How about the riot as a symptom of a sick civic government? In the mayor's office, since the trivial Phil Owen (probably trivial is the worst you can say about him), Van has had:

Larry Campbell: Incompetent and sleazy
Sam Sullivan: Delusional and lazy
Gregor: Just Another Pretty Face.
 
Monika Wroz
The new generation grew up with an expectation of entitlement and privilege in a spiritual vaccum where a sense of community is defined by common loyalties to sports teams or designer labels. It is not surprising that the most meaningful and bonding pursuits are drinking and other forms of meaningless entertainment. Not that there is anything inherently wrong with drinking and entertainment but, whereas they used to be a source of relaxation, they have become a purpose in themselves to escape uncertainty and desperation. We've lost connection to the elements of our existence which give us true purpose, direction and a deeper meaning in life; we've lost faith in each-other, in community and a consequential future. The riot is inexcusable yet sadly not surprising. In a time when we allow our governments to keep chipping away at social services and prevention programs and large corporations to sway our allegiances and politics, there is a rather shallow pool of meaning to choose from. Rather than protesting for social justce and human rights causes, we turn to senseless acts of violence for "entertainment". I believe all those taking part in these acts of destruction need to be held individually accountable for what they have done. At the same time, I think that we, as a society, need to take responsibility for the environment and mentality we have created by complacency and inaction. We need to build communities where people have a sense of belonging and acceptance, where trust and respect for one another would preclude the abhorrent behaviour exhibited last night.
 
e.a.f.
Excellent article. The points are well made.

Society has produced a class of people who are disengaged from the mainstream and have no hope of joining it. They will never enjoy the life style their grandparents had. The rage builds and this is the result. This riot was their entertainment. Their moment of fame as they posed for the telephone/cameras of their friends/the world. They may not ever be able to aquire a well paying job, a home of their own, a nice vacation, be known for doing something well, but this gave them their "moment".

The difference between the Olympics and this was the Olympics had massive security, not only police officers but armed forces.

The police did the best they could to minimize harm. Destruction of buildings is never good but there were no deaths and given what was happening the police are to be commended for their work. To have fully engaged the rioters would have caused more mayhem, destruction, and injury/death.

If society does not want to see more of these types of riots they need to decide what type of society we want to live in and what it values. What erupted last night started years before, when a lot of these people were still in school and budgets were being cut, their parents working several jobs, the lack of affordable and available education, etc.

You reap what you sow.
 
Big Bro
Wow, "Your[sic] an idiot" -- turn the spell checker on. I think your little rant did a lot to prove how stupid your generation really is. Thanks for that.
 
Nik Black
This is an excellent piece and it hits all the right buttons. I've always thought that Vancouver would be the worst place to live after an earthquake for all the reasons articulated in this piece. Everyone would be out for themselves and stores would be looted at will. And like the heroic man in the video, anyone trying to stop them will be beaten by the angry mob. This riot is just a preview, folks, get ready for the main event if an earthquake of serious magnitude hits our fair city.

And thanks to Adrian and Miranda for their excellent work.
 
Hugh
I heard someone blaming immigration for last night's riot this morning.
 
You
Many of the people you will see in these videos are not old enough for "life" to even have beaten them down yet. They're teenagers. They're not people paying student debts or rent or struggling over a lack of job prospects. They aren't suffering the daily grind of a menial job or trying to feed their kids. They're sitting through five hours of school each day and going to the movies on friday nights and complaining about their parents.

They live in a society that no longer encourages or appreciates hard work. They've been brought up to think life should always be easy and that one should not have to work towards their goals, because mom and dad "worked too hard" for too little.

Kids and teens don't go outside, don't do anything athletic, and don't have any creative output anymore. They live dull lives that in five years they'll realize they threw away when they never took the time to have worthwhile hobbies, goals, or skills. They aren't angry, they aren't suppressed or oppressed, they're just bored and boring and get off on the thrill of it all. They'll sit and watch their city burn with little regard for themselves or others. All so they can post some grainy pictures on facebook because outside of that blue and white realm they have no purpose or worthwhile interaction with other people or life.

There were thousands of 'kids' out there last night. What did one or two guys trying to protect the windows mean to them? Nothing. If they wanted in, they could have easily walked by. But that wasn't it. They wanted conflict, they wanted the violence, they wanted to beat the shit out of someone that could have very easily been the father of someone standing next to them.


I'm 23, have a university degree and work two jobs for essentially minimum wage. I have more to complain about than their idle, adolescent minds could ever wrap around. I'm not some old dude that has lost touch with my youth in saying what I have. I like a good party, I like a good time, but my idea of a good time doesn't comprise property damage, arson, or assault. I fear a Big Brother state, but I hope each and every one of these people is dragged in. This was unacceptable. Riot for your rights, not for the sake of rioting.
 
Organ Morgan
Brilliant perspective on yesterday's "spectacle". I got caught in the middle of the riot on my way home from the game, and I didn't think people could act the way they did. I felt a whole lot of hopelessness.
 
KMack
"Seriously man... try optimism - it's intoxicating."

Darryl, intoxication is part of the problem. Try realism. It's sobering.

Excellent article, too.
 
dm
To suggest that today's society is vastly more f'd up than any previous to it is nonsensical. This kind of thing has been happening for time immemorial and the only difference now is the technology that gives us the ability to spread the spectacle faster than ever before.

What is wrong with us? We are human. Sheer statistics coupled with the randomness of nature dictates that among us there will be a choice few who have the tendency to become irrational and "stupid". Even amidst this and all other spectacles however it can be seen that the vast majority of us condemn the kind of behaviour seen last night and that is what matters.
 
Peter F
Inciting riots is what the Black Bloc do and in the case of the "powerful clip on YouTube right now of two men" it is obvious that the "fans" were in fact organized anarchist. Sworn to cause mayheim and damage to property and not to individuals, if you watch the video closely the rioters (many with their faces covered) quickly swarm the man. Then a female black bloc with a mask on tells her anarchist warriors to leave the man alone. Soon the area is empty. Although I am impressed with their military order, it sickens me that young folk would dedicate their lives to such chaos.

For me, however I will remember the many that tried to protect property against the anarchists. That shielded Boston Bruin fans from drunken dicks. As well as the thousands that showed up the next morning to help clean up the mess made by others. We are a big city. I will not ignore the ugly parts but I will certainly embrace the many positive people in our community.
 
Miranda Nelson
@Peter F For the record, the "black bloc" is NOT a group of people. It is a set of tactics used by individuals or groups in protest situations.

From Wikipedia: "A black bloc is a tactic for protests and marches, whereby individuals wear black clothing, scarves, ski masks, motorcycle helmets with padding or other face-concealing items and often carry some sort of shields and truncheons. The clothing is used to avoid being identified, and to, theoretically, appear as one large mass, promoting solidarity."

There is no organization calling itself "the Black Bloc" that is masterminding events like this. It is not "obvious" that these people were "anarchists" either. While you wouldn't know it from the way the mainstream media frames events, anarchists do NOT destroy property for no reason. Anarchism is a thought-out political ideology. Unfortunately the term is now used loosely to describe anyone who causes property crime, disagrees with the government, or acts contrary to public order. Noam Chomsky writes about this kind of framing language at length.
 
Patrick Crowe
Bullshit!! When facsimiles of these thugs kick in your door, rob you and rape your women will you have an over analyzed, sympathetic response to explain their deplorable actions? I thought not.
Stick your psychology degrees up your ass and buy shotguns. They will be coming! The police can't protect you.
 
Another Canuck Fan
"Wouldn't it be preferable to live in a society in which we actually knew our neighbours to begin with?"

I thought I knew him but then he burned my car, took a picture of it and posted it on Facebook.

"To know and trust the people around us to act like responsible individuals?"

Yeah, I know, it really bums me out that my parole officer doesn't trust me.


"To enjoy a culture of mutual respect rather than suspicion, hyper-competition, and meaningless interaction mediated through our phones and iPads?"

I can't afford an iPad but yeah, my girlfriend is always going through the inbox of my cell.

All we're doing right now is gawking at city-sanctioned spectacles—or plugging in our headphones so we can ignore each other.

You're right, I'm going to have to think about all of this in a much wider scope.

Those looters and arsonist should get much more genuine social interaction.

Great article.
 
BIAM
I never noticed until yesterday, through the lens of the 2011 playoffs, that virtually no-one in the 1994 riots was wearing Canucks gear. Look at the playoffs (and riots) today, it was a sea of jerseys, flags, stickers, pants, hats, mascots and on and on. Obviously fans are no more passionate today than they were in 1994, but it speaks to the sentiment you've expressed here. Well written.
 
sarsnake
"Society as a whole ensured that it was the only outcome, starting with the assumption that our over-amped if not war-like passion for something as inconsequential as a hockey game is appropriate to begin with, let alone officially sanctioned. "
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Didn't read the entire article but this is so true!
I am seriously tired of all this hockey talk as if hockey is some kind of most important event of all!
Vancouverites should really get out more and do stuff. Instead of talk about hockey non-stop. This obsession needs to stop.

The problem with this "world class city" though is that there is absolutely nothing to do here. Zilch. Big nada. Idiotic bylaws for liquor and live events have insured that we now have secured the label of no fun city. The juiceboy mayor needs to step it up a notch. His bike lanes are great, but they don't make this rained out village a world class anything.

 
DP Ludwig
I checked out Miranda Nelson's Georgia Strait blog/writer profile, she had a picture she obviously put some effort into making. How many attempts did it take her to come up with that?

And for her to say that she enjoys whiskey but dislikes throwing up whiskey in an attempt to be witty / amusing / funny smacks of self absorption.

Her comment on narcissism is quite telling. Takes one narcissist to know one, eh.
 
Ben
This article and the comments that follow are laughable. "Riots happen after a sporting event. Reasons? Obviously everyone younger than us is an idiot with a rage problem and is living an empty life."

I think you authors (please keep in mind I use that term loosely. My young cousin is an author in my eyes, having taken home her first drawing of the family from kindergarten) have over-analysed this event into such twisted radical depths, that I am convinced it's satire of other left-wing publications.

"This event couldn't possibly be a case of mob mentallity or a miniscule percentage of the more than 100,000 fans that showed up being assholes. No it is a product of our sick culture." Nevermind the fact that sporting riots have been around since the middle-ages (think soccer) and were far more violent even a few decades ago. Despite the fact that many cities throughout hockey history have had riots after hockey upsets. Despite the fact that you "authors" are writing an extremely biased article that is quick to throw out sensationalist sweeping statements.

I appreciate the acknowledgement of the pitfalls of a consumerist culture that is moving towards a right-wing government, but please, for the sake of the magazine you write for and the poor souls that stumble upon your articles, try thinking a bit more before spouting stupidity such as I've just finished reading. There are more productive solutions to the issues you are upset with than poor writing.
 
mcm
This is complete bullshit > "What does the future look like for the average 20 year old? It's a depressing, empty place where they can't get decent-paying (let alone secure) jobs or ever have a hope of owning property."
 
bokkah
We live in a time and place with the least amount of violence. We're just so hyper-connected now with media and internet that we don't realise it was a lot worst before... it just wasn't covered.
 
Pearl Pratley
I'm so glad that I'm not the only one who feels like there is little to no hope for my generation, its sad that you can't go anywhere these days without something trying to be sold to you.

At the rate we are going I feel like we are going to become Gotham City.
 
Frmr Vancouverite
It is a symptom of what those so wanna be continuing colonialists that occupy the Judiciary and key posts of the governing bureaucracy have cultured us into.
 
Steve Withers
As the Rugby World Cup approaches in New Zealand in a couple of months your article may be a predictor of what might happen in Auckland after the final game (assuming the All Blacks make it that far). Rugby is the New Zealand as ice hockey is to Canada. Advertisers thrash it and anyone who doesn't like rugby is somehow unpatriotic...and so on (as you describe above). Generation Y is here, too, and as determinedly incurious and ignorant as anywhere these days. When we stopped needing to know who our neighbours are....society began to rot.
 
Matt Bee
I find it hilarious that so many of you fools attack the righters of this wonderful article for speaking the truth. If you people (sheeple) would pull your heads out of your asses and pay attention to some real news, watch some real documentaries and read some real books (information not spoon fed to you by the mainstream media) you might come to realize that the socioeconomic circumstances and issues that Adrian and Miranda speak of are bang on. If your shallow minds seriously think that the cause of last night events were the cause of a hockey game and a few bad apples there really is no hope for any of us. There are real problems in this work, many are mentioned in this article.
So please, if your too ignorant or shallow to understand this gently wedge you head comfortably back into your ass and keep beLIEving That everything everything is OK. After all, ignorance is bliss.

Great article Adrian and Miranda. Don't let fools get you down and please keep speaking (righting) the truth.
 
Lauren M
This article and its responses reek of ignorance. We lost a hockey game and if we had won the events would have been the same.
People fuck, have kids, and "raise" them. I am fortunate to have parents who brought me up to appreciate this beautiful city and have respect for other people...and their vehicles.
I can't imagine what these rioters went home to last night. Home sweet home... I doubt it.
I imagine a household of dirt, unreturned VHS rentals, 3 minute noodles and unwashed sheets. Their parents are probably proud of their distruction. These people are a product of THEIR environment, not their city.
To say that this generation has any reason to be depressed while holding a Canadian birth certificate is ludacris.
Yah...so depressing living in one of the most beautiful cities in the world.

Get a grip on your negative spin of the future.

"Optimism is intoxicating"
I couldn't agree more!
 
The Truth Comission
Miranda, you're just trying to make yourself feel better by writing a column that tells the rest of us unwashed masses how better you are because you don't own an ipod, don't participate in social media, don't shop at Wal-Mart, and don't participate in the popular culture you wag your finger at. You are a contrarian, nothing more.

Miranda, you're not better than the rest of us who own ipods and shop at Wal-Mart. You're just another so-called counterculture hipster who subscribes to Adbusters and can't enjoy music without a political agenda.

Miranda, get off your self-righteous mountain and grow the hell up.
 
Monkey finger
@Miranda: "Anarchism is a thought-out political ideology." No, it's a vague and naive collection of unworkable political ideas that appeal as much to the hard-right libertarians as the numpty bourgeois lefties -- but mostly to shallow 19-year-olds with one junior college poli-sci course under their belts.

And although the ever-reliable Wikipedia may define black bloc as a tactic, if you or any other writers at the Straight would get away from your computers and into the real world you would know that an organized faction of narcissists who label themselves as anarchists were out in force on Hockey Riot Night and were surely responsible for instigating some of the worst excesses of the night -- thus proving that a tiny amount of political theory can be dangerous for stupid white kids who are incapable of coming up with a coherent, let alone imaginative, way to analyze and deal with societal issues. Burn, steal, and loot is not a rational response to whatever the hell it is that they feel all upset about.
 
Slappy
Yea.. I was waiting for someone to blame it on Society
*sigh*
 
poopnoodle
Seeing the Canucks made millions each game I hope they cover the cost of this
It was their fans doing it
 
spirallou
maybe we should bring back the gladiator sport. go for the guto ya know
 
Anonymous 3
The fact that this article blames a generations traits as a cause of this riot is a ludicrous notion. Blaming an specific age group and categorizing them as worse of character than other generations stinks of ignorance. The vast majority of us are just as shocked and critical of the riot as you are, and its foolish that you think otherwise.
 
C, Van Ihinger
This fifty-something contributor remembers staring, with despair, at the same bleak future as described by Ms Nelson when I was twenty-nothing. The spectre of going hungry in the street was enough to goad me into accepting the first paying job that I could find. Makes me wonder what, if any, difference exists between my past and these losers' present.

One thing is sure: the so-called law-and-order elements of today's society will use this riot as justification for more law, harder order, and less tolerance for the personal freedoms that many have struggled so hard for since long before we happened along. As evidenced by the microphones pointing eagerly at our police chief as he attempts to lump anarchists in with the criminals and thugs who participated in last night's riot.

I will not call those criminals and thugs the instigators of the riot - for that, we must look at the alcohol pushers and all those who profit from our booze industry. Including some of the advertisers who sponsor the Stanley Cup series.

Kudos to the two men who tried to protect the department store windows. Shame on the losers throwing the rocks and the punches.
 
shocked
To the "your an idiot" (did you mean You're an idiot?) comment. It was shocking to see how anyone could have such terrible spelling, grammar! No one can take seriously an opinion written without any concept of how to write a sentence. It made me cringe!
 
Mitch
The police should of known their was going to be riots and made a public announcement the day before that their would be little tolerence. Most of the violenece broke out in area that they knew would be problematic. They promoted 100,00 people to be downtown and the city doesn't think about the repercussions. Any sign of vandlism or violence should have been met with pepper spray and arrest. Crowds should have been dispersed by the fire department with high pressure hoses. There should have been riot police waiting outside the arena ready to beat down any sign of violence. Canadian police and government are a bunch of pussies. Nobody wants to get their hands dirty. The rest of the world laughs at us Canadians. My chinese students were shocked that the police did not stop the violence. In china, those who wanted to take advantage of society bty rioting for no reason would be met with club to the body and real jail for a few months. Oh well, to each their own.
 
thisoneguy555
This didn't happen because of this new generation. Riots have been happening along side sports for decades, yeah I'm sure there are young people who wanted to riot which didn't help, but there would have been riots regardless, even if it was all 30-60 year olds. My parents tell me how in the 70's when the Steelers won the super bowls that downtown Pittsburgh was like a warzone, and the last 2 super bowl wins which were more recent weren't as bad. People need to take sports less seriously, and if they don't, police need to beat the crap out of them.
 
shoegazer
Provocative article and that's a good thing.Any journalistic piece that opens discussion and takes into account all opinions in the effort to come to some sort of constructive conclusion has to be deemed as serving it's purpose.This article has opened those doors.One thing though,
"and hopefully we can begin to repair the damaged to our tarnished reputation"....someone needs a proof reader.
 
1102
When given the opportunity people turn into animals...great article
 
Taxpayers R Us
Ratting out the people inciting violence last is pushing us towards a slippery slope towards Big Brother?

Bullshit.

I couldn't even consider taking my kid downtown last night because of the potential presence of these idiots, and now I'm supposed to feel bad about their "friends" squawking on them?

Fuck that. I hope every last Aton/Yousef/Millard gets snitched on by their closest pals and thrown in jail to rot.

No matter how messed up our society is, and no matter which generation it is, these fucktards will always exist, cause trouble, and take their problems out on those of us that work the hardest.

You can write as many half-baked, pro-communist, full-of-shit articles you want, but that will never change.
 
 
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