... this sort of behavior, if we must have a label called "toxic masculinity," is "toxic femininity." These are things that men just cannot do, and they're clearly toxic, so they're toxic aspects of the female that we need to socialize women to avoid. so that women don't think of men as objects for financing children, or worse, just as sperm donors who can be tricked.

...and it's likely the actual truth. Either way, no one has a gun to your head instructing you to the their friend or to "support" them.

You do you, boo.

Every day,untold times.
IIRC the stats are that 65-70% of first time pregnancies are unplanned. Unplanned by the father that is. Via the "oops I forgot the pill" for 3 weeks straight ploy,puncturing the condom, the old BJ/turkey baster route,or taking the used condom from the trash and stuffing' it in. Sperm jacking happens all the time,with zero repercussions for the woman. Once the semen leaves your body,it's not yours.
Yet if a man yells "hey sexy lady" from across the street,it's called sexual assault. Police can be called,and that incident swells the data, so then women can point at men and say that we're all rapists,it's not safe for women, etc.

Of the above scenarios, it's happened to me twice,and was gleefully told by both of them that I was under their thumb for the next 20 years. And that I'd better get another job and be prepared to work 60 hours a week. One lost the baby,and even though I'm white the other kid popped out half black. And she tried so hard to have me designated the father. Many states in the US,whatever name she writes on the birth certificate-he is responsible. Even though he is not the father after DNA tests.

I work with a lot of younger guys,a lot. and I make sure to tell all of them my story,and advise them to avoid the situation.

You made the right call. Ultimately, it is the child who endures a lifetime of suffering, be it from growing up without a father (and the daddy issues that will result from it) or living in a toxic household. And you don't deserve to put up with the ongoing fallout and constant negativity that will be unloaded on to you every time you meet or chat with these women. Best to stay away.

women have options that men will never have.

Assuming for a moment that you aren't a Troll, and that these stories are true... Why would the first guy be so stupid to get drunk and have unprotected sex with his ex? Alcohol is such a lame excuse for not taking responsibility when you get laid. Why would the second guy be so stupid to get married within a year with someone who treats him like crap, and stay in a toxic relationship? Something doesn't add up... but of course, these men are helpless victims of these evil women...

These kind of women are horrible and make me glad to be a gay man. Such deceptive duplicity, these women deserve to be alone and those children should be readopted in a sane, stable loving home where they can have good role models. That they can be so open about their awfulness is a gift. Now you know what these women are like and are better out of your life. Bleeeeeech!

What a pair of crazy, toxic women!
Yet another tale of insanity that makes me SOOO happy I’m single without this kind of drama in my life.
Now excuse me, I’m off to the gym and then I’m going to watch Sunday Night Football.

Either way you will be footing the bill for child support...the law will get you one way or another.

Maybe ask yourself why they both felt such desperation to go to these extremes.